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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:37 AM Jan 2016

Tragic story. A 24 yr. sister tried to rescue her 9 yr brother from foster care, but ended up

being responsible for his death -- after leaving him alone with her three pit bulls.

She probably couldn't afford any childcare for him, and school was out of session. So she made a fatal mistake.

To put this in context: the mother of these two died of a drug overdose while living on the streets.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-boy-9-mauled-to-death-by-sisters-pit-bulls/

Alexandria Griffin-Heady remains under investigation as she copes with the brutal death of Tyler Trammell Huston.

Neighbors in the quiet Linda neighborhood say Griffin-Heady recently moved into the small trailer, wanting to better her life and eventually pull her little brother out of the foster system.

In one picture, she's cuddling with her three pit bulls, and in another she's hugging her brother. But what looked happy on the outside was complicated, the boy's uncle said.

"With the circumstances of Ally not being mature enough, not able to handle a 9-year-old," Donald Thorpe said. "She's just barely 24 herself."

He says Tyler lived a hard life, moving in and out of foster homes after his mom died of a drug overdose homeless on the streets of Sacramento.

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Tragic story. A 24 yr. sister tried to rescue her 9 yr brother from foster care, but ended up (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2016 OP
She didn't have custody of the child. LisaL Jan 2016 #1
She probably didn't tell them her plan. But in her defense, she was the 24 year old daughter pnwmom Jan 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL Jan 2016 #3
I wish a home-visit by social services had been necessary get the red out Jan 2016 #4
Child was already in custody of social services (in foster care). LisaL Jan 2016 #6
Road to hell is paved with good intentions. LisaL Jan 2016 #5
I can attest that having recently given birth, can make an otherwise docile dog turn aggressive. nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #21
Yes, female dogs can be very protective of their pups. LisaL Jan 2016 #24
From reading various sources, dogs were one female and her two young adult offspring, one female and LisaL Jan 2016 #7
She's responsible for his death. No reasonable person would leave cali Jan 2016 #8
She had misplaced priorities for sure- 3 dogs are expensive Lee-Lee Jan 2016 #9
No not entirely. child services had custody. cali Jan 2016 #10
I believe she got the dogs before she started making attempts to adopt the boy. LisaL Jan 2016 #11
Her homeless mother had died. The dog could even have belonged to her, pnwmom Jan 2016 #12
Her mother died in 2011. LisaL Jan 2016 #15
I think the criticism is due more to social services than to the young woman pnwmom Jan 2016 #17
By this woman's own admission, Tyler was doing well in foster care. LisaL Jan 2016 #18
I disagree. He was safe in foster care, dead now. She should not have had the dogs. Shrike47 Jan 2016 #30
What's she supposed to do? XemaSab Jan 2016 #33
Well, her dogs killed her brother. LisaL Jan 2016 #34
You bet Egnever Jan 2016 #35
Think about it. She is a 24 year old raised with no father and a mother who was pnwmom Jan 2016 #13
What do you see as society's role when a drug addicted woman keeps producing LisaL Jan 2016 #19
No. Her parents let her down. Drahthaardogs Jan 2016 #25
This is so terribly sad. pintobean Jan 2016 #14
It's horrible all the way around etherealtruth Jan 2016 #16
I am guessing they won't charge her unless they find evidence she knew that dogs were dangerous. LisaL Jan 2016 #32
very sad. why didn't uncle step in to help out? Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #20
... nomorenomore08 Jan 2016 #22
I know of a family in which Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #23
Sounds similar to this situation. Family members knew that 24 year old wasn't able to care for the LisaL Jan 2016 #27
I don't know anything about the dynamics of the family in this story. Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #29
Horrible, horrible story. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #26
Did the reporter/police/child services take the pit bull test first???? n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2016 #28
What is a pit bull test? Never heard of it. LisaL Jan 2016 #31

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
1. She didn't have custody of the child.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jan 2016

She was only approved for weekend visits. If she couldn't afford child care and had to work on weekend, she should have left the child with his custodians.
I bet when she got approved for weekend visits she didn't admit her plan was to live the child at home alone with three dogs.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
2. She probably didn't tell them her plan. But in her defense, she was the 24 year old daughter
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jan 2016

of a homeless drug addict who had died.

I think this is a heartbreaking story and she was probably doing the best she could in terrible circumstances.

Response to pnwmom (Reply #2)

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
4. I wish a home-visit by social services had been necessary
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jan 2016

God knows this young woman loved her brother, and wanted to give him a family bond. But there needs to be more checks and balances, which for which there is never the money in social services to implement.

I wish she had at least thought to crate the dogs while she was gone.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
6. Child was already in custody of social services (in foster care).
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jan 2016

Sister got approved for visits, even though her own aunt says she warned CPS that child wasn't safe in the care of his sister.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
5. Road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jan 2016

Should she have been approved for weekend visits at all considering she lived in a trailer with 3 large dogs? It also sounds like the dogs weren't spayed or neutered. Apparently the dog was a female with her two offspring.
Leaving the dog intact increases aggression.

Her own aunt says she warned CPS that she thought that the child wasn't safe with his sister.

"Badeker said Tyler was living in a foster home under the supervision of Sacramento County Child Protective Services at the time of his death. She said she repeatedly told the agency she thought Tyler was unsafe with his sister, who was granted unsupervised overnight visits with the boy after she moved from Florida several months ago."

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article53003700.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article53003700.html

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
21. I can attest that having recently given birth, can make an otherwise docile dog turn aggressive.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

In this case, it was a 70-lb. blue pit bull who suddenly decided she didn't want me around her or her puppies. While I managed to escape injury, things were pretty scary for a bit there.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
24. Yes, female dogs can be very protective of their pups.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jan 2016

However, in this case, pups were already grown into young adult dogs (one male, one female).
All three dogs were not spayed or neutered. It's not a good situation any way I look at it.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
7. From reading various sources, dogs were one female and her two young adult offspring, one female and
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jan 2016

one male. Dogs weren't spayed or neutered. It makes for a very dangerous combination of dogs in a small space (a trailer).
Also, dogs might have had a history.
Whoever in CPS approved this woman for overnight visits?

"However, several relatives told KCRA 3 that the dogs had previously attacked other people."

http://www.kcra.com/news/local-news/news-sierra/charges-weighed-in-fatal-dog-mauling-of-yuba-county-boy/37280190

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. She's responsible for his death. No reasonable person would leave
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jan 2016

a kid alone with three large dogs, let alone pit bulls.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
9. She had misplaced priorities for sure- 3 dogs are expensive
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jan 2016

And if her priority was really on helping her brother she shouldn't have taken in 3 dogs that she had to feed and care for on top of that.

She was 24. An adult, well into adulthood. She and she alone is responsible for this.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
11. I believe she got the dogs before she started making attempts to adopt the boy.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jan 2016

But it sure doesn't sound like this woman ever was in a proper position to care for any pit bulls.
For one, she didn't have a home with a yard.
Dogs weren't spayed or neutered.
What made CPS think she could properly care for a child?

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
12. Her homeless mother had died. The dog could even have belonged to her,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jan 2016

for all we know. Homeless women in particular can feel safer with a dog. This woman might have learned feeling from her mother.

I don't understand why people are being so judgmental on her. She's had such a terrible life, she hasn't had a decent upbringing, and now her mistake, at the age of 24, has led to another tragedy.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
15. Her mother died in 2011.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jan 2016

I very much doubt the dogs, two of whom are under 2 years of age, belonged to that deceased mother.
As to why people are being judgmental, I don't find it hard to understand.
The little boy was reportedly doing well in foster care. He was in a safe place. There was no reason as far as I can tell to remove him from foster care and put him into a situation where he was left in a trailer alone with 3 pit bulls, who were neither spayed nor neutered.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
17. I think the criticism is due more to social services than to the young woman
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jan 2016

who lost her own mother at the age of 20, and whose brother had been stuck in foster care since he was five.

And his life in foster care was hard, according to those who knew him.

He says Tyler lived a hard life, moving in and out of foster homes after his mom died of a drug overdose homeless on the streets of Sacramento.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
18. By this woman's own admission, Tyler was doing well in foster care.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

"Tyler was doing well in the foster system, she said, but she thought his life would be better if he were surrounded by his biological family, including siblings and aunts and uncles."

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/latest-news/article53467220.html#storylink=cpy

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
33. What's she supposed to do?
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 12:48 AM
Jan 2016

Take the dogs to the pound just because she has her brother there?

She could not have expected this to happen.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
34. Well, her dogs killed her brother.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jan 2016

So it might have been a good idea to either not have her brother there, or take the dogs somewhere else before bringing the brother there. Or at the very least not to leave him alone with the dogs while she went to work.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
35. You bet
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jan 2016

Fuck the dogs, of course she could have expected this to happen. I highly doubt this was the first aggression those dogs showed.

I found a new home for a dog I dearly loved simply because it had shown aggressiveness to other dogs, when I had a baby on the way. To this day I miss that dog but there is no way I was taking a chance with my kid.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
13. Think about it. She is a 24 year old raised with no father and a mother who was
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

a homeless drug addict.

To say that "she and she alone is responsible for this" ignores the fact that our whole society let these children down, probably for their whole lives.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
19. What do you see as society's role when a drug addicted woman keeps producing
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jan 2016

children she can't property take care of? Should society sterilize her?
Seems to me society did what it could, putting some children in foster care and adopting some out.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
25. No. Her parents let her down.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jan 2016

Her mom valued her drugs more than her kids and kept reproducing. Her father abandoned his kids. Society did not do this. A drug addict and a bum of a dad did this. How the hell do you make this societies' fault?

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
14. This is so terribly sad.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 12:50 PM
Jan 2016

This young woman made some really bad choices. Her brother paid for that with his life, and she will have to live with the consequences for the rest of her life.
I don't think charging her with a crime solves anything. I wish her well.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
32. I am guessing they won't charge her unless they find evidence she knew that dogs were dangerous.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jan 2016

There have been conflicting reports on whether dogs had history of aggression.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
23. I know of a family in which
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016

the mother of a ten year old boy died suddenly. The boy's 23 year old single sister really wanted to take him in, but the family knew she was not able to properly care for him. Luckily, a brother to the deceased mother took him in. It was a difficult transition for the family, but that boy is now 32 years old with a great job and owns his own home.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
27. Sounds similar to this situation. Family members knew that 24 year old wasn't able to care for the
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:00 PM
Jan 2016

child, despite wanting to do so. Unfortunately for whatever reason a more mature relative hasn't stepped up to adopt the child (as far as I can tell). CPS should have not given this 24 year old unsupervised visitations, and I have no idea why they did.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
29. I don't know anything about the dynamics of the family in this story.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

The mother who died to whom I was referring had an unstable life. She was a fairly lousy mother. But her parents and siblings were good people. The brother and his wife were the godparents' to the young boy and did what needed to be done for him. It wasn't easy, but was the right thing to do.

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