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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:35 AM Jan 2016

To the people critical about Obama's executive order on Gun Control laws....

those people criticizing it the loudest are probably the people that shouldn't own guns in the first place!

I know many gun owners and not one of them has an issue with what Obama signed other than 'About F***ing Time'. Law abiding citizens have nothing to worry about these laws.

But the Ammosexuals out there, perhaps they are complaining for a reason.....

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To the people critical about Obama's executive order on Gun Control laws.... (Original Post) LynneSin Jan 2016 OP
Obama and the Democratic leadership have always been good to gun owners hack89 Jan 2016 #1
Spend a week watching nothing but Faux News LynneSin Jan 2016 #3
If we don't win this election TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #2
Geez you are from Texas - I don't know how you manage down there LynneSin Jan 2016 #4
No kidding. TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #5
Executive orders have been around since the Government was founded.... Historic NY Jan 2016 #6
Yes, I know TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2016 #7
We need a better name than "ammosexuals" SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #8
DUzy! Scuba Jan 2016 #12
Clearly they value the right of a mentally ill person to buy a gun ... LannyDeVaney Jan 2016 #9
They value the rights of terrorists buying guns over protecting our children LynneSin Jan 2016 #10
What's interesting is that the loud mouths from both sides have it wrong. aikoaiko Jan 2016 #11

hack89

(39,171 posts)
1. Obama and the Democratic leadership have always been good to gun owners
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jan 2016

I have never understood this fear by some gun owners that Obama wants to take away their guns or impose draconian gun control measures. Too many people ignorant of history I guess.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
3. Spend a week watching nothing but Faux News
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jan 2016

Then you'll understand, if you don't go stark raving mad first!

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
2. If we don't win this election
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jan 2016

I fear what executive orders we may get if a Republican is elected.

Hell, no I'm not keen on executive orders. I'm afraid the whole concept is going to bite us in the butt someday.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. Geez you are from Texas - I don't know how you manage down there
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jan 2016

I thought Bush and Perry were crazy governors but this one you have now is a lunatic

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
5. No kidding.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jan 2016

Definitely no Ann Richards, huh?

And, honestly, I manage just fine, even in the 'burbs, since my 'burb is one of the most multi-cultural counties in the country and very welcoming. I love it, here. It's just going to take a while to turn blue.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. Executive orders have been around since the Government was founded....
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 10:51 AM
Jan 2016

FDR issued the most...3522.


There is no constitutional provision nor statute that explicitly permits executive orders. The term executive power Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, refers to the title of President as the executive. He is instructed therein by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5 or face impeachment. Most executive orders use these Constitutional reasonings as the authorization allowing for their issuance to be justified as part of the President's sworn duties,[2] the intent being to help direct officers of the U.S. Executive carry out their delegated duties as well as the normal operations of the federal government: the consequence of failing to comply possibly being the removal from office.





TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
7. Yes, I know
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jan 2016

and most Americans were blissfully unaware of the individual orders because they weren't personally affected by them.

Once the idea that a president can issue executive orders for just about anything - what next? Someone dies in an abortion clinic, so the next fundie president will regulate abortion clinics with all sorts of archaic rules? After all, abortions will still be legal....

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
9. Clearly they value the right of a mentally ill person to buy a gun ...
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jan 2016

over the safety of their own children.

They have their priorities, and the well-being of ANYONE else is not on the list.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
11. What's interesting is that the loud mouths from both sides have it wrong.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016


Essentially, Obama supported the status quo with requests for resources and improved processes.

Nothing substantively new was recommended.

Those who are cheering the Executive Actions will be sorely disappointed to find that the so-called "gun show loophole" is not closed -- not even a little.

Those who are screaming tyranny about the Executive Actions will be chagrin when they realize the NRA has asked to enforce the existing laws.



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