BREAKING-ALABAMA SUPREME COURT JUSTICE FORBIDS SAME SEX MARRIAGE

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Per CNN

[randome]

1. All they need now is an enormous blue tarp to cover the state.

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[Hassin Bin Sober]

6. Lol.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

27. Like this?

[randome]

31. Perfect! Freedom you can see from orbit!

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The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[kwolf68]

2. Great move

This law will now protect the sanctity of all marriages as all adultery and divorces will also cease, since we all know gay marriage causes straight couples to cheat on each other and terminate marriages.

Protect the sanctity of MY marriage. Not sure how I made it 17 years what with all the gays running around getting married.

[immoderate]

3. 'Scuse me, but is that not superfluous?

--imm

[cali]

4. Here's some info

Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore issued an order Wednesday afternoon directing probate judges to no longer issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples.

"Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect," the order stated.

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http://www.waaytv.com/appnews/roy-moore-tells-probate-judges-to-stop-issuing-same-sex/article_50370664-b49f-11e5-8cad-8b60755369e0.html

[randome]

7. Not Roy Moore again!

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Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[MADem]

18. Isn't he the Ten Commandments lunatic? nt

[randome]

21. The same. The same. What a dullard.

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Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[Manifestor_of_Light]

13. That's a states' rights argument.

They're using a state law as authority. This is overruled by the Supremacy Clause.

This is the shitfight going on since the Civil war with States' Rights/Tenth Amendment on one side and Supremacy Clause & General Welfare Clause (mentioned twice in the Constitution) on the other.

<--stuff like this drives legal types like me crazy.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

5. SUPREMACY CLAUSE BITCHES. GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE BITCHES.

And yes, I earned a Juris Doctor degree, so technically that makes me a lawyer, even though I am not licensed to practice law. I learned this in Constitutional Law.

Article VI, Clause 2 of the Constitution. Not to mention case law is supreme over statute law as first stated in Marbury v. Madison, decided in 1803, and numerous times thereafter.

[elleng]

8. Good. Don't let him marry.

[lamp_shade]

9. More...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/01/06/alabama-chief-justice-roy-moore-orders-same-sex-marriage-ban.html

[ShrimpPoboy]

10. And this, my friends,

is why electing judges is a bad idea.

[SheilaT]

38. Because not a single appointed judge is ever bad?

Do the names Antonin Scalia or Clarence Thomas mean anything to you?

[kwassa]

40. They were elected by the Senate.

[SheilaT]

41. Thomas and Scalia were not elected

by the Senate. They didn't run for the position in competition with others, which is what elections are generally about. They were nominated, then approved by the Senate. A huge difference.

And states vary as to election vs selection of judges, with at least some states (NM, where I live is one) that does a combination of the two. Here, judges are generally appointed by the Governor, then run to retain their seat.

[shraby]

11. Since when did state law start trumping federal law??

[Human101948]

16. When Moore got bored and needed a publicity fix...

He's addicted to attention.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/11/13/moore.tencommandments/

MONTGOMERY, Alabama (CNN) -- Alabama's judicial ethics panel removed Chief Justice Roy Moore from office Thursday for defying a federal judge's order to move a Ten Commandments monument from the state Supreme Court building.

The nine-member Court of the Judiciary issued its unanimous decision after a one-day trial Wednesday.

The panel, which includes judges, lawyers and non-lawyers, could have reprimanded Moore, continued his suspension or cleared him.

[MosheFeingold]

25. Correct

This idiot is really running for higher office.

He's done all sorts of stuff like this.

As legal, he's dead wrong.

As a practical matter, it puts the clerks in a really weird position. I wouldn't really know what to do. This guy would throw you in prison. I suspect a lot of clerks will simply quit or stop issuing marriage licenses altogether.

[gratuitous]

35. That's it exactly

On tonight's episode of Divas of Birmingham, Roy Moore ("The Judge&quot has such a theatrical conniption fit that the other divas roll their eyes so hard the commotion can be heard next door!

[SickOfTheOnePct]

37. State laws trump federal laws in other cases

it just depends on whether the federal government wishes to make a case out of it.

[geek tragedy]

12. Sweet home Talibama.

Can't they just secede? That state is a goddamn disgrace to the union.

[MosheFeingold]

26. We can only hope. n/t

[randome]

14. "It wasn't immediately clear Wednesday afternoon whether probate judges were complying with..."

"...Moore's order."

In other words, Moore just threw his own state into chaos for his own personal beliefs. What do you think will be the cost of probate judges following Constitutional law? Nothing.
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[geek tragedy]

15. Who knows with that crazy-ass state? He could order them thrown in jail.

And he represents public opinion--he's elected by the people of that god-awful state.

[randome]

20. Which would end up costing Alabama enormous sums of money and litigation time.

Because the law is on the side of probate judges who follow Constitutional law. (Damn! I'm starting to sound like a Bundy!)
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Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.[/center][/font][hr]

[geek tragedy]

23. no one ever accused the Taliban of being rational ....

[Manifestor_of_Light]

17. Judge Moore must have slept through Constitutional Law.

Con Law, as we call it in school, is a REQUIRED course in law school.

There are 30 semester hours of required courses that are required in all 50 states, because it's on the multistate portion of the bar exam--old English law like property and torts and contracts that are the same everywhere.

The other 60 hours is electives. You can take all the subjects on your state bar (like I did) or you can take a bunch of seminars where you just write a paper at the end of the semester and probably make a higher grade.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. Oh him again...

Judge Roy Bean Moore.

[NightWatcher]

22. He and Don Siegelman need to trade places.

This corrupt piece of shit...

[Octafish]

30. Justice for Don Siegelman!

As it is, Karl Rove and Just Us for Alabama.

[DefenseLawyer]

24. Maybe Roy can get a giant "sanctity of marriage" rock

and lift it into the statehouse with a crane...

[Daemonaquila]

28. Gee, again?

We'll see how many people listen to the fruitcake this time, after he's lost the fight HOW many times?

[spanone]

29. so they choose not to follow the law....send in the fed marshalls

[ProfessorGAC]

32. Ring! Ring! Hello, Federal Marshalls! Got Something For Ya!

If Kimmy can go to jail, so can Roy-boy

[restorefreedom]

33. oh brother...did his 15 run out already?

this will pass, but not before he gets some attention for his new book/website/cabletv show/ etc

[SDJay]

34. Throw His Bigoted Ass in Jail

This is now a federal civil rights issue, not a state issue. It's really not any different than deciding that Alabama will no longer allow women or black folks to register to vote on the 'grounds' that ' I don't like these laws.'

Fuck this guy.

[Mnemosyne]

36. KnR nt

[joeybee12]

39. Go Clemson!

So far no sh*tstain of a judge in SC has pulled this sh*t. Good enough for me to root for them.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Roy Moore

what a surprise.