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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:37 PM Jan 2016

If Authorities Act Against Occupation There Is A Danger Other Militia Will Intervene

In the light of threats against the sheriff and his family in Oregon other militias might intervene if local officials or the federal government acts in any way with the occupiers. There is an element of risk if you ignore or act in this situation. And militias are egging for an open fight with federal authorities in particular.

I think that this occupation may really only the beginning of more aggressive resistance. Ironically people want to defy government until they are slammed by some kind of disaster. Hate radio and Fux News wants resistance and anarchy against federal and even state government unless it pursues draconian conservative policies.

Decisions on what to do are particularly gnarly because anything can happen. And it could be easy to lose control of events.

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If Authorities Act Against Occupation There Is A Danger Other Militia Will Intervene (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Jan 2016 OP
Arrest them, too, if any turn violent. Octafish Jan 2016 #1
Ya know... 2naSalit Jan 2016 #15
Failure of authorities to act is just asking for further trouble. Paladin Jan 2016 #2
If people choose to break the law, then the law is the remmedy. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #3
Agree. So are they saying their Militia is bigger and stronger than our Police and Military? glinda Jan 2016 #5
I suspect the claim of being bigger and stronger will prove to have "Performance Issues" Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #6
Let them intervene. It will flush the crazies out. The NSA will monitor and track them better. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #4
So basically we should surrender to the rightwing terrorists. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #7
You mean the ones with snacks? KamaAina Jan 2016 #8
It Is Hard To Know What These Militias Are Up To. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2016 #9
One word - LRAD. If it weren't for the dogs it would be great remedy, imo. If it is good enough for Mnemosyne Jan 2016 #10
Doubt it. There's won't be a response, Oneironaut Jan 2016 #11
That's not the issue. The issue is respecting human life and avoiding needless damage to the refuge struggle4progress Jan 2016 #12
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2016 #13
+1 2naSalit Jan 2016 #14
Agree! Everyone knows they are standing on quicksand and the feds can put them all shraby Jan 2016 #16
What are the terrorists wanting? They wanting the land to go back to the original owners? B Calm Jan 2016 #17

2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
15. Ya know...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

I had a brainstorm when I read about the campaign of the R frontrunner has some rep from NH out there now who was a player at the Bunkerville event... so I suddenly started to wonder if that particular candidate has been funding some of these kkklowns under the radar. And what if this is a well funded stunt for the opportunity of showing some "presidential" chops for a certain candidate just before the actual primaries start? Not that the argument used in this extension of the Sagebrush rebellion gang aren't so old they have a rind on them... But if this certain candidate has been funding some of these guys prior and promising them that their grievances would be happily resolved if he gets into office...

This also plays into the hands of the Congressional counterparts to the BunkerBoys who also want to privatize all the public lands. It is a major issue that cannot be ignored... but I suspect that there is a very wealthy, self funded candidate running for office who may be stroking these guys big time to perform in such a way as to advance the candidate's ambitions.

It was a wave of all the above thoughts all at once. I can't be certain there are dots to connect there but I smell fish wafting on the breeze all of a sudden. I wouldn't put much past the party in question.



The OP with the article: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7507482

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. If people choose to break the law, then the law is the remmedy.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

If we stand by in terror that other terrorists will act, then we might as well hand over the rights of government to the Bundy Bunch right now.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
5. Agree. So are they saying their Militia is bigger and stronger than our Police and Military?
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jan 2016

Am sure there are a ton of charges these people can be facing.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
6. I suspect the claim of being bigger and stronger will prove to have "Performance Issues"
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

if it is put to the test.

TheBlackAdder

(28,163 posts)
4. Let them intervene. It will flush the crazies out. The NSA will monitor and track them better.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jan 2016

.


There will be new info that will better pinpoint the lunatic fringe versus the weekend warriors.


.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
9. It Is Hard To Know What These Militias Are Up To.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

The RW media is all about stirring these people up. And GOP hopefuls at every level play into the politics of anti government hatred. And this agenda makes this next election even more dicey. The GOP is desperate to get control of the White Houe and will pull out all the stops to win. And it looks like this election will be like no other because playing the racism card is now over the
shark. Trump's success is a symptom of how all the Southern strategy works.

The shocking part of all of this is now everything is boldly out in the open. The MEME is if you vote GOP you are turning the country over to the terrorists and minorities and takers.




Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
10. One word - LRAD. If it weren't for the dogs it would be great remedy, imo. If it is good enough for
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jan 2016

the G8 protesters in Pittsburgh, it is good enough for these yawhoos. imo

Oneironaut

(5,480 posts)
11. Doubt it. There's won't be a response,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jan 2016

but even if there were, 99% of these "militia" types are all talk. They're also usually dumber than a box of rocks. They're all good at telling other people to fight for them.

Sit back, relax, and laugh at the Bundy sideshow. If anybody is actually worried about these guys, remember: they couldn't even pack supplies correctly. They're hilariously ineffective. All of their "forces" are in a very small area. They're either not serious / not expecting any violence, or are just stupid.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
13. Recommended.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

You are correct. That does not change the way that authorities need to respond to the situation -- and I'm not implying that you are suggesting that -- but it is important that people understand their thought processes.

These fools are convinced that, if authorities use violence, it will serve as the spark that ignites their fantasized "revolution." In that sense, they are no different from Timothy McVeigh, who absolutely believed his terrorist act would signal the start of a "patriotic" revolution.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
16. Agree! Everyone knows they are standing on quicksand and the feds can put them all
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

in jail before they've figured out they were captured.
By letting them stay for a while, it will bring more out into the open and they can be arrested also.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
17. What are the terrorists wanting? They wanting the land to go back to the original owners?
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

Wouldn't that be the Indians!

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