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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreyhound Driver Stops At Motel To Rest With Bus Full Of Passengers
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/01/06/greyhound-driver-stops-at-motel-to-rest-with-bus-full-of-passengers/"A Greyhound bus bound for Denver made a scheduled stop in Kansas so the driver could rest at a motel, but due to the fact that the next driver who was supposed to take over wasnt immediately available the passengers on board said they had no idea where the original driver was going or for how long.
Dozens of passengers said they were left stranded on the bus for hours outside the La Quinta motel in Salina while the driver went inside to catch up on some sleep."
JI7
(89,240 posts)if they kept driving.
maybe they were that tired that they did not even think to wait for the other person to show up.
and since this was scheduled where was the other driver ?
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Apparently he was just following his schedule. Another driver was supposed to take over.
kz5
(11 posts)msrizzo
(796 posts)This is a big problem with bus drivers even on the local level. I have been stranded on a bus because a driver's shift ends and the other driver hasn't shown up. Never this long but on a few occasions for over an hour. It's not the original driver's fault. Not only is it a safety issue, but his or her shift is over. They are not authorized to keep going just because the other driver didn't show up. Who should be penalized is the driver who didn't show up (unless they had a very good reason) or the company for not having a policy in place for when this happens. And I'm sure that it's happening more and more because it's probably cheaper for the company to do nothing than to have a back up driver available cause they might have to pay them.
kz5
(11 posts)And why can't the drivers communicate with each other and those on the bus?
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)I am sure there is a law that mandates the amount of consecutive hours a bus driver is allowed to drive. After he has driven that amount he must by law sleep and not drive any further.
Prism
(5,815 posts)There are, for good reason, regulations regarding rest periods for long term drivers. My brother is a trucker, and he has to pull over and rest based on mandate, whether he wants to or not. It's a safety regulation (see: Tracy Morgan's accident).
The company didn't manage their schedule well.
I dislike the headline because it makes it seem like the driver was an asshole. Not so much. The driver went as far as he was legally able, bounced off, and expected his replacement who the company didn't manage.
This was Greyhound's fault all around. Not the individual drivers'
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)I'm with you. This made is seem like the driver was just being a tool. I agree that not following the mandated rest could lead to a much worse headline, like "10 dead, 40 injured in bus accident."
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)When you're talking about a driver who's expected to steer a fifty ton vehicle full of a hundred passengers around safely, yeah, there's rules about how long you can be behind the wheel before you're expected to take a break, eat, or get a night's sleep.
Greyhound should have had the next shift's driver ready, according to schedule, but they dropped the ball.
Tanuki
(14,914 posts)length of shift and how many hours had to be scheduled in between shifts to allow for sufficient rest. The passengers in this case were left in an unacceptable lurch, but it was Greyhound's fault and not the driver's as suggested by the headline. The company should have been on top of the situation, communicated what was going on to the passengers, and provided them with prompt assistance in getting to their destinations.
kz5
(11 posts)You'd have to be a total idiot to use Greyhound.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)pstokely
(10,523 posts)nt
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)I have been in a few dangerous places in the world but find the imediate area around the Houston bus station to be by far the most frightening.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I must have visited 40 states with Ameripasses, and my first trip to Mexico was the result of an Ameripass stopover in El Paso.
Of course, that was back in the early '80s...
marble falls
(57,013 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Why insult those who can't afford a car or airfare?
pstokely
(10,523 posts)nt
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Philly to Washington is $24.00, New Orleans to Houston is $26.00, Washington to New York is $29.00. I don't think it's quite accurate to state it isn't much cheaper than flying. Seems equitable airfares compared to Greyhound's fares run four to five times that amount.
Logical
(22,457 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)to be menacing. One time I fell asleep on one to the sound of a man telling a woman he couldn't wait to the next stop ao he could buy some more crack. She told him she was a drug councelor. When I woke up they were having sex.
SteveG
(3,109 posts)kz5
(11 posts)msrizzo
(796 posts)They still go to places that you can't get to easily or cheaply by air or even rail. Anyone who can afford a car would probably drive these distances but there are still some folks who can't afford cars. Even if you get a cheap flight but you live in a small town, getting to your eventual destination in a shuttle or cab could be really costly. When my daughter was at college she had a medical emergency and I was on a business trip. It turned out that Greyhound could get me to her in 3 hours, faster than my other options so I was glad they were there. But I wouldn't describe it as an ideal ride, far from it. You can tell it is the form of transportation for people who have no better options.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Perhaps you can allow some of us low life poor people the use of your Gulfstream so we can get around without the 'Hound.
IphengeniaBlumgarten
(328 posts)I agree that Greyhound is not elegant, but neither are the airlines anymore. I find it convenient and economical for short trips. Other passengers often appear to be people of limited means or (perhaps the same thing) college students. A few undesirables, I guess, but so long as you don't have to share a seat with them... A the drivers can be a trip.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)The driver that stopped at the motel had no idea the replacement driver didn't show up.
Last time I road greyhound was in the late 50s and the bus had two tire blow outs.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Two times that a bus broke down, it took hours for a replacement bus / bus driver to come. I had to wait twice all night for a connecting bus. The only reason I took Greyhound was for the Ameripass (an unbeatable value at the time), and I cringe if anyone actually paid money for a single trip, as I heard many Greyhound customers complain.
Hotler
(11,396 posts)kz5
(11 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)It's the fault of the company for not getting the replacement driver there.
kz5
(11 posts)Terrible. I will not take Greyhound.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)Except for the passengers.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)all of them for a motel room too.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Driving a bus full of people while tired would be reckless endangerment of life.
There's a reason rest hours are mandatory.
It sounds as though there was a significant screw-up here, but it was the fault of whoever was designing the schedule not having left enough slack in it, not of the drivers, one of whom was required to stop well before the other was legally allowed to start.