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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:04 PM Jan 2016

Kid gloves for homegrown extremists are part of a smart strategy

Soon after a bunch of white guys with guns holed up at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon in protest against the federal government, wags took to social media to deride them.

"Y'all Qaeda," "YeeHawdists" and "Vanilla ISIS" are some of the clever put-downs circulating on Twitter.

Critics also decried what they perceive as a double standard in the seeming lack of response from law enforcement. If the gun-toting men were black or Muslim, went the typical argument, they would have incurred the full, militarized wrath of law enforcement.

So it might appear, but if you think law enforcement agencies are being deferential out of fear, you couldn't be more wrong. Be very grateful that federal officials know exactly whom they are dealing with: troublemakers just itching for an excuse to claim that the federal government provoked them first.

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Kid gloves for homegrown extremists are part of a smart strategy (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Jan 2016 OP
Let me see if I understand this. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #1
That's not what I think... LuckyTheDog Jan 2016 #3
The main point is that the Feds are hesitant to go in because they fear the kind of public Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #6
I am waiting to see what happens to the YeeHawdists after they stand down and go home. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2016 #11
allowing people to place themselves above the law because they have guns is a great idea? geek tragedy Jan 2016 #2
I call bullshit on this stupidity. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #4
+Infinity! - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #14
Agree. ananda Jan 2016 #15
Only if by homegrown you mean white n/t malaise Jan 2016 #5
+1 gollygee Jan 2016 #7
Precisely malaise Jan 2016 #9
This. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #8
I could go with that if they are eventually arrested 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #10
Yep. They need to be arrested (nt) LuckyTheDog Jan 2016 #13
The fact that these guys can come and go at will stage left Jan 2016 #12
Sounds like everyone wants an armed confrontation and killing pediatricmedic Jan 2016 #16
No, "everyone" doesn't want an armed confrontation Bettie Jan 2016 #19
I'm torn on this issue Oilwellian Jan 2016 #17
BS defending of WHITE PRIVILEGE. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #18

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
1. Let me see if I understand this.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jan 2016

Police officers can stop and frisk black people on the street just because the police officer suspects foul play; but they won't confront a white male with a loaded gun because they don't want to provoke a situation that might offend other white folk.

Got it.

LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
3. That's not what I think...
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

... Mary Sanchez is saying here. She merely points out that going in with guns blazing is what those guys want.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
6. The main point is that the Feds are hesitant to go in because they fear the kind of public
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

criticism that they received over the Waco situation. And I'm here to say that in lieu of the major discrepancies in handling white vs black citizens in this country, maybe it's time to ask the big question: What public outrage are they responding to? And what public outrage are they ignoring.

So many ways that the Feds can respond, given that we're living in the era of Big Brother and they can and have been monitoring private phone calls for over a decade.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. I am waiting to see what happens to the YeeHawdists after they stand down and go home.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

Indiv. arrests would seem to be in order.
Until there are legitimate legal consequences for armed insurrection, the Gov. will rightfully be open to deserved criticism of racism.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. allowing people to place themselves above the law because they have guns is a great idea?
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

Good thing our current crew wasn't around when the Bundy types fired on Fort Sumter.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
7. +1
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jan 2016

Let's not use euphemisms here. There have been American (and therefore home-grown) violent people of color who have not been treated with kid gloves. (Bit of understatement there.)

Even NON-VIOLENT people of color get treated violently.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
10. I could go with that if they are eventually arrested
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jan 2016

but like last time, I don't think they will be. They pointed guns at federal agents. I would have been shot dead for that. Any dark skinned person would have been shot dead for that. Any OWS protester would have been shot dead for that. These NRA members are let go. It sure as hell sounds like our police even at the federal level have been bought and paid for.

As long as they are allowed to act like outlaws without getting in any trouble for it, they will continue to do this and will escalate it until someone is killed. THey are not camping on the land, they have taken over the refuge with it's buildings. THey have taken the bulldozers for their own use. They have threatened to die there. Nope, no laws broken here. I hope OWS is paying attention. Seems they didn't have to sleep outside in the cold after all. They just needed guns and a NRA memebership.

stage left

(2,962 posts)
12. The fact that these guys can come and go at will
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

just pisses me off. Stupidity shouldn't put them above the law.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
19. No, "everyone" doesn't want an armed confrontation
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jan 2016

and killing.

What many of us would like to see though, is those leaving the property detained or refused reentry after leaving.

But, instead, what we're getting is "well, boys will be boys, just leave them alone until we figure out how to give in to their demands".

And it is true, were they anything other than white men, this would be over and there would have been violence and the media and people who are demanding we treat these guys with kid gloves would be cheering the defeat of the "thugs" or "terrorists" (depending on the amount of melanin those in the building had).

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
17. I'm torn on this issue
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jan 2016

The reason behind this so-called siege is so utterly stupid, it's hard to support any armed confrontation and possibility of death. Particularly if these yahoos are hiding behind women and children, as reported. I do however support their arrest and prosecution for the crimes they have committed. The Feds can't continue letting this shit slide because that only encourages escalation. I never understood why they didn't arrest Koresh during one of his many trips into town. The same can be done with YallQaeda because it seems they're already experiencing cabin fever.

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