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"You Just Want Free Stuff." (Original Post) liberalnarb Jan 2016 OP
Hey, just "cut it out." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2016 #1
Maybe Old Codger Jan 2016 #3
Please, cut it out... If necessary... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #11
Every time I read that I think of Jack Benny..LOL..He said "cut that out" but still.....nt monmouth4 Jan 2016 #15
"Pull yerselves up by the Bootstraps!!" - anyone who never had to. HughBeaumont Jan 2016 #2
Win! cheapdate Jan 2016 #5
+ a bazillion! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #22
We want what we worked for and you stole Proserpina Jan 2016 #4
It's tragically comical Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #16
It's Interesting to Note On the Road Jan 2016 #6
Yea, right. edgineered Jan 2016 #7
A great Joe Biden quote is this: "A budget is a moral statement. Akamai Jan 2016 #10
Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help Akamai Jan 2016 #9
The "point" is an idiotic rw non-sequitur noiretextatique Jan 2016 #18
Rhetorically, On the Road Jan 2016 #20
Um lol wut? nt laundry_queen Jan 2016 #24
No, It's a counteroffensive in the Class War waged by the rich on us for the last 40 years. Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #32
Republicans love socialism as it stands today. tecelote Jan 2016 #8
I've heard Democrats issue the same sentiment. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #28
K&R - Why anyone listens to that bullshit Fat-cat mantra, is beyond me.. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #12
99th -- Amen, brother!!! Akamai Jan 2016 #13
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #14
That pile of cash is funded in part by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, ... Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2016 #17
I..I wouldn't mind a free relocation to a country of my choice. Can I have that Free Stuff? Shandris Jan 2016 #19
HEY!! WTF is wrong with FREE STUFF? yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #21
CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, Dr. Xavier Jan 2016 #23
Not free, Equal. grahamhgreen Jan 2016 #25
K&R mountain grammy Jan 2016 #26
There is zero difference between collecting benefits vs. tax credits CommonSenseDemocrat Jan 2016 #27
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #29
For an interesting take on this, one needs look no further than here: GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #30
“People who just want stuff”: 1860 JHB Jan 2016 #31
 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
4. We want what we worked for and you stole
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jan 2016

You 1%ers have very convenient memories, morals, and tax avoidance attorneys...

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
16. It's tragically comical
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

how life situates itself to reward such a small minority so lavishly who have this brain disorder. As if anyother profession out in the world means piss to the daily workings of ordinary life. Really makes one look around their entire life and feel ashamed. Sad

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
6. It's Interesting to Note
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jan 2016

that the cartoonist pretty much admitted Sanders's campaign is a money grab.

Saying Republicans want tax cuts doesn't really affect that point.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
7. Yea, right.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jan 2016

None of the other candidates had even considered that the office of POTUS might influence monetary policy. Well, looks like that cat is out of the bag.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
10. A great Joe Biden quote is this: "A budget is a moral statement.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jan 2016

Don't tell me what value. Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value!"

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
9. Bernie believes, I think, that if society as a whole wants to help
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:37 PM
Jan 2016

all of its members, even if it requires higher taxes-- especially on the richest, who will suffer significant pain by paying more -- then it is moral and right to do so.

This is not being given "free stuff" but a realization that we are all in this together.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
20. Rhetorically,
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:21 PM
Jan 2016

arguing tu quoque or "you too" is considered an admission. I know that's not what the cartoonist intended, but what he wrote suggests that both sides valid arguments.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
32. No, It's a counteroffensive in the Class War waged by the rich on us for the last 40 years.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jan 2016

It is an attempt at a Normandy landing.

Be glad we are saying the pillaging stops here, not give it back.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
8. Republicans love socialism as it stands today.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jan 2016

They bitch about food stamps but really food stamps are a gift to Walmart stockholders. Every dollar paid in food stamps is a dollar Walmart does not need to pay it's employees. The poor do not benefit, they work to sustain themselves. Stockholders benefit.

Endless war means endless profits. Our tax dollars are making war mongers rich while we are just creating more threats that demand more war.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
28. I've heard Democrats issue the same sentiment.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jan 2016

Recall the hub bub here on DU about Bernie's free college tuition plan: "I don't want to pay for Trumps kids to go to Community College". It isn't JUST Republicans that have this mindset.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
12. K&R - Why anyone listens to that bullshit Fat-cat mantra, is beyond me..
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jan 2016

If we still had a Forth Estate worthy of the name, it would be met with guffaws and
laughed out of the room by the Press.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,938 posts)
17. That pile of cash is funded in part by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, ...
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016

by government subsidies, infrastructure spending, gas taxes, defense spending on over-valued gold plated hammers, paying landowners not to grow crops, bank bailouts, ...., and trillions of dollars the government can't account for.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
19. I..I wouldn't mind a free relocation to a country of my choice. Can I have that Free Stuff?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jan 2016

Please? I promise I'll never vote against Republicans again if I can! ...granted, it's because I won't be here to do so, but still!

Dr. Xavier

(278 posts)
23. CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE,
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jan 2016

CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARE, CLASS WARFARe, CLASS WARFAre, CLASS WARFare, CLASS WARfare, CLASS WArfare, CLASS Warfare, CLASS warfare, CLASs warfare, CLAss warfare, CLass warfare, Class warfare, ... class ... oh, never mind...

GoneOffShore

(17,336 posts)
30. For an interesting take on this, one needs look no further than here:
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.thenation.com/article/the-dickensian-politics-of-trump-and-his-fellow-ebenezers/


Unfortunately, the poor are still imagined as a burden by today’s political misers.

The debate about how to respond to poverty continues to this day—in much the same language Dickens recalled more than a century and a half ago. The poor are still with us, as are the Scrooges.

We’d best bless them all, with hopes that the ghosts of Past, Present, and Future will again visit those who are in need of some seasonal prodding.

JHB

(37,152 posts)
31. “People who just want stuff”: 1860
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

From November 12, 2012:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021803220

“People who just want stuff”: 1860

With all the conservative whining and wailing going on about Obama’s re-election, saying that he won because of “people who just want stuff” and other assorted poutrage, it’s worth noting that this is a trope they’ve been playing for a very, very long time.

Below is a conservative political cartoon from 1860, engraved by Currier and Ives and published in Harper's Magazine.

Back then, when “The Party of Lincoln” was actually running Lincoln for president, it was considered the liberal/left party.

See if you recognize the playbook:


http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2003674590/

"The Republican Party Going to the Right House"

Lincoln rides in on a (fence) rail, carried by Horace Greely (anti-slavery editor of the New York Tribune), leading his followers into a lunatic asylum.
GREELY: "Hold on to me Abe, and we'll go in here by the unanimous consent of the people."
LINCOLN: "Now my friends I'm almost in, and the millennium is going to begin, so ask what you will and it shall be granted."

Younger Woman: "Oh! what a beautiful man he is, I feel a passionate attraction' every time I see his lovely face."
Bearded Man: "I represent the free love element, and expect to have free license to carry out its principles."
Man with trim beard and hat: "I want religion abolished and the book of Mormon made the standard of morality."
Caricatured black man: "De white man hab no rights dat cullud pussons am bound to spect' I want dat understood."
Older woman: "I want womans rights enforced, and man reduced in subjection to her authority."
Scruffy man with bottle: "I want everybody to have a share of everybody elses property."
Barefoot man: "I want a hotel established by government, where people that aint inclined to work, can board free of expense, and be found in rum and tobacco."
Seedy top-hat man: " I want guaranteed to every Citizen the right to examine every other citizen's pockets without interruption by Policemen."
Man at the end: "I want all the stations houses burned up, and the M.P.s killed, so that the bohoys can run with the machine and have a muss when they please."

Let’s go down the list, shall we?:
Supported by "liberal media": Check
Liberals will embark on profligate giveaways to THOSE PEOPLE? Check.
Flighty, emotional, entranced by charisma/celebrity? Check.
People conservatives consider sexual deviants? Check.
People conservatives consider religious deviants? Check (and how ironic, this particular turn).
Grasping minorities after special rights? Check.
"Feminazis"? Check.
There's a vast army of layabouts, terrorists, and outright thieves who want to take your hard-earned stuff? Check, check, check, and check.

A hundred and fifty years later, and they're playing the same effing tune.
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