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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:48 PM Jan 2016

El Guapo. El Chapo. Jihaddi John. El Burritto. Americans are stupid.

Americans are stupid media morons. We have to give every evil bad guy a fun "Bad Guy" name.

El Chapo has a real name. It's Joaquin Guzman, but Americans can't pronounce it.

Jihaddi John has a real name, but Americans can't pronounce it.

All our evil bad guys actually have names, but not in American media. We have to give them cartoon names, because American audiences are too stupid to understand reality. Give us a comic book name, something we can understand. It makes it much easier to hate people that way.

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El Guapo. El Chapo. Jihaddi John. El Burritto. Americans are stupid. (Original Post) Atman Jan 2016 OP
don't forget Donald Trump. though that comic book character does have a pronounceable name. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2016 #1
El Chapo was his childhood nickname Oneironaut Jan 2016 #2
The Short? The Stunted? Frightening. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #5
the appellations we create for ourselves on DU seem a rather irrational basis for determining intell LanternWaste Jan 2016 #3
You win for the most polysyllabic conneries du jour on DU Atman Jan 2016 #11
You know what they call Guzman in Sinaloa? El Chapo nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #4
We give not only hurricanes but now moderate storms get media names too NightWatcher Jan 2016 #6
Your concern is noted. NaturalHigh Jan 2016 #7
jihadi john was given by European hostages JI7 Jan 2016 #8
Do they deserve any better? Human101948 Jan 2016 #9
How dare you badmouth the in-famous El Guapo! DetlefK Jan 2016 #10
"This man El Guapo, he's not just famous, he's IN-famous...." nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2016 #14
That means he is more than famous right? DVRacer Jan 2016 #22
Hey, sorry. I just think it's funny. Atman Jan 2016 #12
The point is that your "Americans" didn't give the fellow the nickname. The Nay Jan 2016 #20
It's "joaquin guzman" and B2G Jan 2016 #13
Yes, I know. Atman Jan 2016 #15
Well I think your original post is BS B2G Jan 2016 #16
Okay. Atman Jan 2016 #17
Just disagreeing B2G Jan 2016 #18
Slow down. I just recently learned how to pronounce "al Qaeda's number two". DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #19
When did El Guapo become an "evil bad guy"? hughee99 Jan 2016 #21
We used to call an old boss of mine "El Guapo". smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #23
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. the appellations we create for ourselves on DU seem a rather irrational basis for determining intell
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jan 2016

Nicknames, nom-de-plumes, sobriquets and even the benign appellations we create for ourselves on DU seem a rather irrational basis for determining intelligence or the ability to enunciate foreign names.

I'm confident we'll be supplied with objective evidence supporting your allegation as something more than philippic prattle.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
11. You win for the most polysyllabic conneries du jour on DU
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jan 2016

Your oh-so-enlightened response does nothing to refute what I originally posted.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
8. jihadi john was given by European hostages
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

Because of the British accent.

I think el chapo actually does go by that name.

So these are not American creations.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
9. Do they deserve any better?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think so. These nicknames are also a way of ridiculing and diminishing these people.

Like calling Hitler the Austrian paperhanger.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
12. Hey, sorry. I just think it's funny.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jan 2016

We can't just call out a bad guy in America. He has to have a comic book bad-guy name. It makes it easier for the cable news telepromter reader to pronounce their names and keep us sufficiently afraid.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
20. The point is that your "Americans" didn't give the fellow the nickname. The
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

Hispanic newspaper here in Richmond (yes, all in Spanish, for Spanish-speaking folks) calls Guzman "El Chapo." He's been called that forever. Nicknames like that are common in Central and South America (el flaco, el gordo, el guapo, el feo, etc.), so THOSE are the Americans (not North Americans) who have given him that name.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
13. It's "joaquin guzman" and
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jan 2016

I doubt Americans have a problem pronouncing either name.

Wah-keen. As in Wah-keen Phoenix.

Guzman. As in Guzman.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
15. Yes, I know.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jan 2016

I worked on Joaquin Castro's campaign. I can pronounce it, and occasionally I make a typo on DU. It doesn't change one thing about my original post.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
16. Well I think your original post is BS
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jan 2016

Don't call Americans stupid because the media insist on pushing something you disagree with.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
18. Just disagreeing
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jan 2016

Of course you are entitled to your opinion.

I just get sick of the stupid American posts sometimes.

Stupid media posts I am totally onboard with.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. We used to call an old boss of mine "El Guapo".
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jan 2016

It means "Handsome". Ironically, he was not very handsome. I'm not sure who came up w/ the nickname, but it kind of stuck.

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