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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:43 PM Jan 2016

How Canadian Health-Care does not suck.

Last edited Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:28 PM - Edit history (10)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027521337



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026727625 - "THIS is what Healthcare is all about ..."

I don't want to use NanceGreggs' tragic loss for anything detrimental, but feel her thread and what she and Jeff went through is exactly typical of all I've seen of our system, having worked in it for a long while, used it all my life and been an advocate for a huge family and friends who've gone through some very complicated and serious health issues. And again NanceGreggs, I'm very sorry for your loss.

Just a few more discussions with informative posts from a very quick search just here on DU debunking the 'horrific wait times and limited care' myths (proclaimed in the first link):

Ichingcarpenter (35,626 posts) "Canadian doctor schools U.S.Republican Senator on public health care"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024655743

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4658292



This video was both infuriating and interesting. Please do have a look at the 3:59 mark.

Please keep this in mind re watching Sally Pipes' testimony and who she is and what she stands for:

TrollBuster9090 (3,005 posts)
69. SALLY PIPES SHILL ALERT: (Just FYI)

Every time I see Sally Pipes spreading her anti-healthcare garbage I want to barf. But I'm not surprised the Republicans invited her. She's part of the wingnut welfare crowd.

Just FYI, there are two paid shills who Republicans usually invite to these dog and pony shows. One is Sally Pipes, who runs a paid, right-wing 'think tank' (aka Propaganda outlet) whose soul purpose is to put out propaganda trashing single payer healthcare systems with cherry picked data. No surprise she appeared here.

The other standard paid shill the Republicans usually invite is Dr. David Gratzer, who was trained as a psychiatrist in Canada, wrote a (self-published) book about how shitty the Canadian healthcare system is WHILE HE WAS STILL A MEDICAL STUDENT, and had no experience of it; and (like his commrade Charles Krauthammer) soon discovered that there was a lot more money to be made as a paid propagandists than there is as a doctor; and moved to NY to do that before ever having seen a single patient.

Gratzer is usually their token Canadian doctor that they always invite to trash the Canadian healthcare system. I don't understand why they didn't invite him! They must be slipping.

I can only conclude that Gratzer is affraid to show up at any hearing where Sanders is present, because the last time he was invited to a hearing with progressives present, Dennis Kuchinich ripped him a new asshole.

Watch this video of Kuchinich taking the little turd apart. It'll make your day. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4660362



eridani (48,829 posts) "Why do Canadians so strongly support their single payer system?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026223948

Cheese Sandwich (4,130 posts) "Canada's Single-Payer Healthcare System Explained"



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017301919




National Health Expenditure Trends, 1975 to 2015:
https://www.cihi.ca/sites/default/files/document/nhex_trends_narrative_report_2015_en.pdf

https://secure.cihi.ca/free_products/trends_in_income_related_inequalities_in_canada_2015_en.pdf

So really ...... those who are trying so hard to make it appear what it isn't, will just have to try a bit harder - there are actually people on here who know the truth of what we get and wouldn't trade it for anything. Period.





8 facts that explain what’s wrong with American health care

Updated by Sarah Kliff on January 20, 2015, 9:58 a.m. ET

If the health-care system were to break off from the United States and become its own economy, it would be the fifth-largest in the world. "It would be bigger than the United Kingdom or France and only behind the United States, China, Japan, and Germany," says David Blumenthal, executive director of the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund.

Or here's another way to put it in its (ridiculous) perspective: The US, which has a mostly private health-care system, manages to spend more on its public health-care system than countries where the health-care system is almost entirely public. America's government spends more, as a percentage of the economy, on public health care than Canada, the United Kingdom, Japan, or Australia. It spends even more than that on private health care.






3) Half of all health-care spending goes toward 5 percent of the population

Americans are not equal health-care spenders. There are a handful of patients who use lots of medical services — and tens of millions of people who barely go to the doctor at all.


http://www.vox.com/2014/9/2/6089693/health-care-facts-whats-wrong-american-insurance
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