Bundy Gang can't use County Fairgrounds to gin up support for their "Cause."

[yellowcanine]

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_harney_county_1.html

"We have a longstanding practice of allowing community groups to use county facilities," said Harney County commissioner Steven Grasty. "But we unfortunately now find ourselves in a place where the county must deny those facilities to any group that is supportive of, associated with, or on the behalf of the militants at the refuge."

Well finally someone gets it that giving these guys a platform to promulgate their nutbag theories about the Constitution is counter productive. Maybe their supporters should hold their dang meeting out at the Refuge and the Feds can move in and arrest the lot of them.

[KansDem]

1. Did they want to open up "Bundyland?"

Where's the Merry-go-round? The Ferris Wheel? The Roller Coaster? DAMN GUB'MINT!!!

[Initech]

20. Bundyland: the least happiest place on earth!

[pinboy3niner]

2. I guess no venue wants their rental fee paid in dildos

[L. Coyote]

21. And i was going to say they didn't want to rent to a bunch of ....

them.

Guess I have to go with this instead: [center]


Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge #BundyTeaParty

[Proud Liberal Dem]

3. Wow

Somebody (finally) is standing up to them. I'm impressed.

[Cerridwen]

4. "...an Ammon Bundy-affiliated group of locals..."

From the article:

Harney County has told an Ammon Bundy-affiliated group of locals that it can't hold a planned community meeting at the county-owned fairgrounds.

<snip>

The self-appointed committee planned to host Bundy and Montana militia leader Ryan Payne on Friday to outline the militants' exit plan. They've said the 7 p.m. meeting will go on, with or without a meeting space furnished by the county or another community group.

<snip>

At a community meeting it hosted last week in at the county's senior center in Burns, the committee read a drafted letter to Bundy offering to take on his mission while asking him to leave the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. It's not clear if the six-member committee ever delivered that letter to Bundy.

But committee member Chris Briels, a retired Burns fire chief who held a part-time position acting as the county fire marshal, said he had resigned that post over the county's refusal to host the meeting.

<snip>

The committee formed days before Bundy and his followers began their occupation of the wildlife refuge at a meeting organized by the militants, though some members have at times resisted Bundy's tactics.

<snip> {underline added for emphasis}

Is this really about a bunch of "out-of-towners" coming in and causing problems?

Kinda weird timeline.

[gratuitous]

6. Rugged individualists, ain't they?

They'll have a meeting as long as someone else furnishes the space, the electricity, the sound system, the bathrooms, and so forth, for nothing.

As for the weird timeline, yes, the Bundys had some initial support in the community, but their antics and ever-changing rationales for their occupation have turned off a lot of that support. Remember when this whole thing was about a protest against mandatory minimum sentences? Yeah, nobody else does either.

[Cerridwen]

11. Actually, I do; but, I get your point. :)

I've yet to meet a "rugged individualist" who wasn't much more than a cartoon caricature of the romanticised, dime-store novel, caricature of the "wild, wild" west "cowboy;" written and romanticised by some "city feller" from "back east;" or, who thinks Rambo is a documentary based on historical fact.

Sorry. I grew up out here. Most of the wannabes I've met wouldn't last 1 hour on their own without air conditioning and a car to get from one end of the valley to the other.

Most of them would wind up eating their horse for dinner since they don't know much about that angle of a cowboy's life either. Much less darning their socks so as not to raise blisters; keeping their tack and horse in shape since it's their only mode of travel; caring for their tools; fixing their own meals; and not wasting ammunition because it was damned expensive and/or difficult to make.

Please don't misunderstand. A few of those things I would need to learn and get into condition for; but I don't run around telling others how "rugged and tough" I am while asking for donations of snacks and beer (or tampons).

[yellowcanine]

7. "Is this really about a bunch of "out-of-towners" coming in and causing problems?" Yes

The Bundy Gang did not just show up at the protest in support of the Hammonds. They were there weeks before trying to drum up support. They apparently converted a few locals to their cause but most of the occupiers at the refuge are from other places.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/bundy_militia_leader_plotted_o.html

[Cerridwen]

12. Ah. Got it. thanks.

I appreciate the additional information.

[Wellstone ruled]

9. Well

about time someone took a stand decided to check the local and County Ordinances . Most county and cities require a permit and bond in order to use these facilities. You just do not use these places willy nilly.

[Bluenorthwest]

10. Bundy is from either Nevada or Deseret depending on who you ask, the rest are Arizona and such for

most part. Note Bundy takes down a fence so 'the rancher can graze his cows' and the rancher puts the fence back up the next day and says he's got no issues with the government. What does that tell you? Anything? Nothing?

[Cerridwen]

13. I'm not casting aspersions on the locals. I was noting a weird time-line.

I'm not casting aspersions on the locals. I was noting a weird time-line.

Please, don't take offense.

The bundys are kinda from all over the various parts of Nevada, Arizona, Montana, and Utah and have moved around a bit. cliven's ranch is in southern Nevada and a few of his sons have moved to Arizona, Utah, Montana, and so on. There are quite a few family members and it's hard to keep track of who stayed at home and who moved elsewhere, and so on.

[Lizzie Poppet]

15. There would always have been a minority of locals who support Bundy.

Mostly ranchers, I'd guess, but not all (and the majority of ranchers in the area likely wish Bundy would piss off, too). It's a politically conservative county, and wile most of the locals aren't Tea Party types, there's always going to be some extremists.

[Cerridwen]

17. Based on the replies I've received here,...

Based on the replies I've received here, it appears "the bundys" have used the issue of the hammonds to catapult their own and the militia movement's agenda and to get publicity and converts.

(Totally off-topic; I keep trying to apply spelling rules to the bundy name, i.e., bundies for the plural. Yeah. Weird. I am.)

[Mike__M]

30. (off-topic . . .)

I could see "bundy" making it into the common lexicon.
Whether as a noun or verb, though, I don't know.

[L. Coyote]

22. That six-member Committee was formed by Bundy and the Oregon Republican Party Chair Tim White.

And the Comm. is registered to Ammon Bundy at his phoenix address. That is the address of their website:



MORE

[passiveporcupine]

26. The militant stand-off has stirred up a lot of unrest

this is a conservative county, and there are plenty who side with the Bundy's on this Federal land grab issue. Now they've gotten the support they've needed to push their cause.

[Bettie]

5. Eh, the Bundy's don't need permission

they'll just take it if they want it.

[shireen]

8. This little drama has become my guilty pleasure

Every time I see the name "Bundy," I perk up. Ooh! An update on those numbskulls!


They better be out of there before spring bird migration or birders will forcibly evict them.

[passiveporcupine]

27. In a way it's a guilty pleasure, because I keep waiting for them to be arrested

If it doesn't happen it won't be a guilty pleasure...it will be me very pissed off. This is my state they are pulling this shit in and I want them gone. They are only encouraging more right wing Oregonions to join their cause and create more unrest in the future.

[Jim Lane]

28. Mine too. We might need a 12-step program.

I've finally stopped clicking on Sarah Palin threads, only to be sucked into this.

I see eridani has what looks like a very informative post about the TPP but I haven't read it yet because I got lazy -- there's less intellectual challenge in reading about the numbskulls.

[Vinca]

14. If they want it, they'll take it. That's what they do and no one is stopping them.

[saidsimplesimon]

16. The bundy fundies have had enough air time. Time for

silence while law enforcement does their job of removing these domestic terrorists from our National Park.

[SHRED]

18. Meanwhile...

...the Bundy Boys have electric power still and are using government computers as I type this.

[turbinetree]

19. Really----------------------why?

[keithbvadu2]

23. "County Fairgrounds" sounds like local gov't land -

You know - the people's land.

They can just attack and take it over.

In the name of 'the people' of course.

[yellowcanine]

24. Actually it varies. Apparently it is true in that county.

Some county fair boards own and control their land apart from the county government.

[jmowreader]

25. In other words, the county fair board didn't want the Bundy Gang to try stealing the fairgrounds

[uponit7771]

29. Sounds like the whole town is under siege ... Wonder if there will be township malitia that will bea

... Arms against the Bundy malitia