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BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:44 AM Jan 2016

The Tennessee family that won the powerball are hard working people BUT.

Everybody has their "thing" but sometimes you realize how different you are from other people. I'm certainly not dissing them but I am a billion light years from their thought patterns. They're happy so maybe that's all that matters.

Go back to work on Monday?. Me?? Are you crazy? Insane?
Invest it so my children will have some money later in life?? YOU WON OVER 300 MILLION DOLLARS! That MAY be enough to tide them over.

> At a news conference Friday, the Robinsons said they won't stop working and won't make any wild purchases. They'll pay off their mortgage and their daughter's student loans, but have no desire to move from their gray, one-story house in a close-knit community into a luxurious compound somewhere.

Lisa works at a dermatologist's office. John is a warehouse supervisor. Both will return to work Monday, they said. Friends and neighbors say the Robinsons are a hard-working, responsible family with the ability to humbly deal with their new fortune.

"That's what we've done all our lives, is work," John Robinson said. "You just can't sit down and lay down and not do nothing anymore. Because how long are you going to last? We do want to enjoy a little bit of our earnings, and maybe invest a little bit of it so our son and daughter can share in our......

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The Tennessee family that won the powerball are hard working people BUT. (Original Post) BlueJazz Jan 2016 OP
prediction Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #1
"I'm a firm believer in tithing to my church," John Robinson said. oberliner Jan 2016 #3
Ha! Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #8
It's on AOL. The 3 lines is about the whole story. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #11
The tithing bit Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #16
No, I was just giving you a little info that there wan't much more to the story. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #32
:) I'd go to work to serve brief notice if desired. Hortensis Jan 2016 #59
Left unresolved is the knotty theological question of what God's position is KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #15
The church will require them to pay a penalty Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #17
The Catholic Church is OK with gambling in moderation Retrograde Jan 2016 #79
Yeah, I made an assumption from "tithing" and from Tennessee that KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #95
Oh dear, that's all we need. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #43
thst is just what i was thinking restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
The pastor probably needs a new Gulfstream. Hoppy Jan 2016 #24
propserity gospel all the waaaaaayy!! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #26
I'm sure their pastor is pricing out a Challenger or Gulfstream this very moment Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2016 #7
I wouldn't have come forward so soon for one thing yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #9
Oh, this is just first shock, I think. djean111 Jan 2016 #2
I agree, hollysmom Jan 2016 #78
This will NOT last long. Bank on it. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #4
Why shouldn't they do what they want? Maybe they like their jobs. cwydro Jan 2016 #6
Well ... Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #10
They are definitely not doing what is suggested by experts oberliner Jan 2016 #13
I meant keeping their jobs and not planning any big purchases right out of the gate. cwydro Jan 2016 #71
Their attorney seems like a publicity seeker oberliner Jan 2016 #73
Yeah, I'm with you on the publicity seeking lawyer. cwydro Jan 2016 #75
It's been said that envy is the worst of the sins Yupster Jan 2016 #77
Good post! cwydro Jan 2016 #109
And to St. Judes, a children's hospital. This is very strange, I agree. Yo_Mama Jan 2016 #119
I guess she has no liability risk at her job. Ilsa Jan 2016 #137
well I think it is a damned shame then hfojvt Jan 2016 #105
Lol. It does seem that way! cwydro Jan 2016 #114
I wouldn't just quit my job with no notice mythology Jan 2016 #12
Would you take a day off? oberliner Jan 2016 #14
I'd personally go in the next day GummyBearz Jan 2016 #28
Probably the most realistic scenario. Well said. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #37
Sweet oberliner Jan 2016 #62
I would keep my identity a secret to keep from getting harrassed or being the target of scams. Tanuki Jan 2016 #50
What do you do for work? oberliner Jan 2016 #64
check your pm. n.t. Tanuki Jan 2016 #87
Cannot Remain Anonymous SoCalMusicLover Jan 2016 #70
They have to release their name, and hometown, and home state philosslayer Jan 2016 #80
Actually, in Tennessee, winners can still disguise their identity by Tanuki Jan 2016 #84
I'm not questioning your ethics, but wish to note merely that most employers will lay you KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #18
MOST employers are small business owners. So you are wrong. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #21
No, I'm not. - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #23
Nope, KingCharlemagne is not wrong. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #40
If you won 300 million Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #66
Twice I've been laid off, each time was without warning or ceremony. cheapdate Jan 2016 #72
There are actually laws about notifying employees of impending layoffs. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #88
Not for salaried there isn't. cheapdate Jan 2016 #89
Do those work for Right to Work states? Nt a la izquierda Jan 2016 #108
The Federal laws would have to. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #117
to me that is just a myth hfojvt Jan 2016 #104
I think the feds 1939 Jan 2016 #112
but that is rather questionable hfojvt Jan 2016 #138
I think the WARN law calls a small business under 100 employees. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #118
what is a "large" corporation though? hfojvt Jan 2016 #139
It's SOP for all businesses now to give no notice. Oneironaut Jan 2016 #144
How about this? Autumn Colors Jan 2016 #19
Remember it takes time to actually get the money ripcord Jan 2016 #61
10 business days. nt B2G Jan 2016 #65
any competent lawyer call to handle this Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #68
No, they won't. Most states' attorney ethics rules The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #76
A competent lawyer 1939 Jan 2016 #113
True, but the lawyer couldn't lend the money him/herself. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #121
I agree. They are from a very small town and have probably known their co-workers their whole lives. Tanuki Jan 2016 #46
Agree RobinA Jan 2016 #97
I would resign with class. I would send my newly hired agent in a tuxedo to SDjack Jan 2016 #103
Well, think of it like this: Orrex Jan 2016 #145
I think they are both extremely naive to think they can keep working at their current jobs mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #20
This is what my husband said... Phentex Jan 2016 #38
I prob wouldn't go back to my current job bigwillq Jan 2016 #22
You couldn't find something to do with $300M to keep from staying home? Boy, I could! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #42
I wouldn't want to stay home bigwillq Jan 2016 #47
The first thing I would do is take as much time as needed to attempt a thru-hike... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #49
Sounds good. bigwillq Jan 2016 #51
They won't be able to work OR sorefeet Jan 2016 #25
+1. They hired the wrong lawyer. Duck and cover, people. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #34
You got that right. Become one of those off the grid Alaska bush people. kairos12 Jan 2016 #142
Ha, yep. Though I'd choose a warm climate on a beach, personally. JudyM Jan 2016 #143
Security is a huge issue exboyfil Jan 2016 #27
As much as gated communities are derided on DU..... A HERETIC I AM Jan 2016 #55
Fully understand the but, but... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #29
People have a need for autonomy, mastery and purpose. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #36
lots of advice says if you win don't do anything rash dembotoz Jan 2016 #30
If they want to go back to work, it's their business, not ours. LisaL Jan 2016 #31
They have no experience with this get the red out Jan 2016 #33
I wouldn't quit either, unless I became a distraction for the organization. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2016 #35
you could invest 250 million Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #39
I wouldn't invest it philosslayer Jan 2016 #81
equities aren't the only avenue for growth Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #92
What they do is their business. NaturalHigh Jan 2016 #41
In a strange way, it's pretty selfish DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #44
Bull SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #93
There's More RobinA Jan 2016 #98
God, some of the comments here. B2G Jan 2016 #45
I believe it's more concern that even though they want to lead a normal life, life for them has.. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #56
Maybe, but that little subthread at the top B2G Jan 2016 #57
I'm not sure what you mean. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #60
Pastor is picking out his Gulfstream B2G Jan 2016 #63
Oh, I let that kind of stuff slide away... BlueJazz Jan 2016 #67
I need to follow your lead. B2G Jan 2016 #69
Thank you. cwydro Jan 2016 #127
That and they're Christians B2G Jan 2016 #128
+1000 n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #130
Lmao. I was wondering what would make winners of the lottery acceptable here. cwydro Jan 2016 #131
I would've gone back to work the following Monday, or Whateverday. Iggo Jan 2016 #48
Holy christ, I can't imagine being that unimaginative. nt valerief Jan 2016 #52
Same here. Bernie's campaign people would be doing back-flips when I gave them 20-25 million BlueJazz Jan 2016 #58
I'd buy SCOTUS, too, I think. nt valerief Jan 2016 #83
By law you can't contribute more than $2,700. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #100
Could I make a super-pac for all democrats ? BlueJazz Jan 2016 #106
Thanks to the Citizens United decision, yes. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #110
I'd rather give money to ALL Democrats because (as you well know) Bernie or Hillary can't.. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #111
Sounds like people who won't be blowing all of their money within the next few years like some CajunBlazer Jan 2016 #146
Good for them oldandhappy Jan 2016 #53
I'd finish out the semester out of a sense of obligation, but once grades are in... stone space Jan 2016 #54
More power to them... Tom_Foolery Jan 2016 #74
Once the shock wears off, and they have met with a financial advisor SoCalDem Jan 2016 #82
"By this time next year, their lives may have done 180.." BlueJazz Jan 2016 #86
till they find out how much work it is to handle that much money... KG Jan 2016 #85
If they genuinely enjoy their work, and find it adds worth to their lives... AngryOldDem Jan 2016 #90
Sometimes it is hard to change your entire life in the course of a weekend. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #91
i think they will give a lot to church . but they are probably going about it better JI7 Jan 2016 #94
OMG...The LAST onecent Jan 2016 #96
They have not said one word about giving anything to their church. cwydro Jan 2016 #99
Well said SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #115
Actually, they have. mnhtnbb Jan 2016 #116
they think God is behind their lottery win JI7 Jan 2016 #140
Yes, the same way the football players think that God made that touchdown for them. onecent Jan 2016 #141
I hope it works out for them, but The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #101
Interesting thread with thoughtful responses. (eom) oasis Jan 2016 #102
I agree with their thinking (can't just lay around). Renew Deal Jan 2016 #107
Sadly, people who've worked a day job for decades often haven't developed themselves flamingdem Jan 2016 #120
Isn't that the truth. It would be nice for them to pack up the family and tell the kids.> BlueJazz Jan 2016 #122
Thinking of the kids it might be better to stay stable and get over the shock flamingdem Jan 2016 #123
How do you even know how they've raised their children? SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #125
I don't think it's dislike at all. It's more concern that being what they are... BlueJazz Jan 2016 #126
Their "children" are in their 20's B2G Jan 2016 #129
Well, they need to get some. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #132
Get some what?? Nt B2G Jan 2016 #133
Get some children so all my wise, insightful, intelligent words will be valid. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #134
I don't give a shit what they do with their money, but... GoCubsGo Jan 2016 #124
Some of these responses in this thread are just sad. Not only can people not tolerate when liberal_at_heart Jan 2016 #135
We Valley Girls like to gossip and berate. It's what we do. BlueJazz Jan 2016 #136
I'd do the same Jimbo S Jan 2016 #147
"Life is not so bad if sammythecat Jan 2016 #148
 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
1. prediction
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:50 AM
Jan 2016

I have a feeling that their church will probably end up getting a large portion of the money.

Just a hunch ...

Really. I might still "work" if I won but it would be by pursuing things I enjoy doing. I would never go back to a 9-5 job working for someone else ... and if what I enjoy happens to make some more money, fine, if not, then I'll call it "pursuing my hobbies" ...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. "I'm a firm believer in tithing to my church," John Robinson said.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jan 2016

John and Lisa Robinson said they bought the ticket in the town of Munford. They said they planned to take the lump sum of more than $300 million to help out certain friends, give to the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, and donate to their church. "I'm a firm believer in tithing to my church," John Robinson said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/15/tennessee-couple-claims-1-3-winning-powerball-tickets.html

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
16. The tithing bit
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jan 2016

I wasn't complaining about no link (if that's what you mean) ... the person who responded to my post had posted info from another article from Fox News. I was just saying I posted my "prediction" without seeing that other article where they talk about their church.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
32. No, I was just giving you a little info that there wan't much more to the story.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jan 2016

Sort of like: Why oh why did THESE people win?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
59. :) I'd go to work to serve brief notice if desired.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jan 2016

I'd hope those last days among comrades would be pleasant, but I'm far from sure. In this case, who doubts these people's lives will change big even if they never spent a penny on themselves? Sadly, their relationship with the old neighborhood probably is not sustainable. Acting out resentment by just a few spoilers wouldn't allow that.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. Left unresolved is the knotty theological question of what God's position is
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jan 2016

on gambling in the first place. I thought the Protestant God was not particularly well disposed to games of chance, but it's been a while since I studied the matter in any meaningful way.

Meh, details.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
17. The church will require them to pay a penalty
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jan 2016

since they sinned by gambling.

Yes, just give all those riches over to us...

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
79. The Catholic Church is OK with gambling in moderation
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

which is why a lot of churches sponsor (or sponsored) Bingo games, as well as various raffles and other low-stake games of chance. A few bucks a week - if one can afford it and it doesn't impact negatively on others - is no worse than a beer with family or friends, or dancing.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
95. Yeah, I made an assumption from "tithing" and from Tennessee that
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016

this family attended a Protestant congregation of one sort or another. The Southern Baptist and denominations even further to the right have a heavy presence there.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. thst is just what i was thinking
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jan 2016

bloodsucking church will convince them that it is God's money and they should give most of it back through the church (why waste time going directly to charities that help people, animals, or the earth ?<sarcasm&gt

note: i don't necessarily believe all churches are bloodsuckers, but i have never met a one (christian, anyway) that did not apply immense pressure to pledge and/or "tithe" (which has been completely distorted by modern churches but don't get me started.....)

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
7. I'm sure their pastor is pricing out a Challenger or Gulfstream this very moment
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jan 2016

Pardon me, his "preaching machine"...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. I wouldn't have come forward so soon for one thing
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jan 2016

Immediately after announcing, I'd go on a world cruise so the hoopla of me winning would die down some. I'd quite my job 5 months after winning and turn in the ticket 2 weeks later. Give to the church is a fine idea for them. I'd give to my catholic high school before the church who has money. The rest? I'd pay my siblings monthly mortgage. And only give them money when needed. Giving money causes problems for everyone. I would not buy another home. I'd keep my car a Toyota 2011 for awhile. I have never been into cars so that status doesn't impress me.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Oh, this is just first shock, I think.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:51 AM
Jan 2016

Hopefully they will work at some sort of charitable endeavor, after this all sinks in. Plus - they should really free up those jobs for people that need them.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
78. I agree,
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

they haven't wrapped their minds around it yet. the size of the money has not sunk in, nor have the strangers converged on their house yet.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Why shouldn't they do what they want? Maybe they like their jobs.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jan 2016

I agree with Hiraeth that this probably won't last long, but in the meantime they're doing exactly what is suggested by experts on this sort of thing.

Apparently 70% of lottery winners end up broke in a number of years. I hope this couple doesn't end up that way.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
10. Well ...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jan 2016

Well, if they do end up broke, let's just see if that church that gladly takes their "tithing" turns around and helps them later on when they hit hard times ...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. They are definitely not doing what is suggested by experts
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jan 2016

In fact, they are doing the exact opposite.

They went on the Today Show and announced that they had won before cashing in their ticket.

In fact they had their ticket with them on their trip to NY.

Neither of those actions would be suggested by any expert.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
71. I meant keeping their jobs and not planning any big purchases right out of the gate.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jan 2016

I agree the Today show was not the brightest idea, but they did have their attorney with them.

They seem level headed.

I find it fascinating all the hate on this thread regarding their "gifts" to their church. They've not made any comment in that regard that I've heard.

Lots of sour grapes on DU, it appears.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
73. Their attorney seems like a publicity seeker
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jan 2016

He brought his daughter with him (the lawyer did) and they both seemed to be making themselves the stars of the Today Show appearance. I think they made a very poor choice of lawyer and that said lawyer is taking advantage of the situation for his own benefit.

I agree with your other points.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
75. Yeah, I'm with you on the publicity seeking lawyer.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:04 PM
Jan 2016

We said as much while watching. I missed the part with the daughter...whoa.

Later I saw him holding the leash of the dog, which I thought was good employment for him lol.

But yeah, the guy struck me as a fame-seeker, money grubbing snake lol. And apparently it was HIS big idea for them to go on the Today show first. Sheesh, I'd have been down at that lottery ticket office first thing, not the Today show. My luck, I'd lose the damn ticket.

Oh well, I guess we'll get to see what happens.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
77. It's been said that envy is the worst of the sins
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jan 2016

because nothing good comes from it.

If you're a glutton at least you get the ice cream.

If you lust at least you get the sex.

If you are greedy at least you get the Ferrari.

But envy really makes you unhappy and you get nothing from it either.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
119. And to St. Judes, a children's hospital. This is very strange, I agree.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jan 2016

St. Jude's treats children for free.

So for this, these people are mocked and reviled????

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
137. I guess she has no liability risk at her job.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:56 AM
Jan 2016

Maybe she works in Billing or as a receptionist. But as a nurse, I'd be afraid of being sued, frivolously, if clients knew I had deep pockets. Yeah, I'd quit. Maybe use the money to fund charitable work, some for church, some for children's charities, help the homeless, overturn Citizens United.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
105. well I think it is a damned shame then
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:17 AM
Jan 2016

many people are playing the lottery because they hate their fucking jobs. That's certainly why I get tickets. For a chance at freedom.

Seems like these lucky bastids already won ONE lottery. The lottery where they got a job they do NOT hate.

Now they have to win another one.

Some guys have all the luck.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. I wouldn't just quit my job with no notice
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jan 2016

First there is no reason to burn a bridge that I don't need to, plus I feel a personal sense of obligation to give notice.

But also making a rash decision after a life changing event is usually a poor idea. Granted that advice is better in the event of a negative event like a death or divorce, but why not stop and make a rational decision about what you want to to?

And finally, for a lot of people, they define a significant portion of who they are from their job and the stability it provides in their life. These people just won more money than they can probably fathom. Keeping their jobs in the short term may give them a certain stability while they figure things out.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
28. I'd personally go in the next day
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jan 2016

Invite everyone to lunch on me. Probably sit in my office staring at the power point slides for my current project for a long time, thinking how it was a fun job, but realizing that time is something you can never get back. Give appropriate notice and enjoy time

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
50. I would keep my identity a secret to keep from getting harrassed or being the target of scams.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jan 2016

Therefore, I would go to work the next day and the next, as if nothing had happened. I have read that it takes a couple of weeks before the check is actually deposited when there is a huge jackpot (those giant-sized "checks" at the lottery office are just for show). Once the check was in the bank, I would wind down my current professional obligations on an ostensibly "leave of absence" basis and with ample notice and a plausible cover story. I actually like what I do for work and might want to go back to it in some capacity despite being a gazillionaire, but it would be great to have some time off to travel while I still can, read, relax, watch all the movies I didn't have time to see over the past few years, do some creative hobbies I have had to put on hold for too long, etc.etc. Hmmm, that sounds so good, maybe I wouldn't go back to work after all....but I wouldn't want to burn my bridges. With the kind of money in the recent jackpot, I would put much of it in a charitable trust and spend a lot of time researching where best to spend it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
64. What do you do for work?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

I always like hearing from people who enjoy their job. If you don't mind sharing.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
70. Cannot Remain Anonymous
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jan 2016

All 3 of the states with winners in the latest Powerball, are required to have their names released to the public, and I believe they even are required to hold a press conference at the lottery office, although I'm not positive about that part.

They cannot keep their identity secret though.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
80. They have to release their name, and hometown, and home state
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jan 2016

At least in Tennessee. But his name is "John Robinson." A fairly common name. If i were in his shoes (as if) I would have done the following:

First thing, bought a property on the other side of the state.

Then when claiming the ticket, claiming that as my hometown.

If they asked why I bought the the ticket in Mumford, I would tell them I was just passing through on a trip an stopped to purchase a ticket. That would be the official story.

No press conference, no pictures, no nothing. That's all they'd get. It wouldn't guarantee anonymity, but it would send all the wolves to my false address, and give me at least a chance of living a semi-normal life.

This guys lawyer is a total idiot IMHO.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
84. Actually, in Tennessee, winners can still disguise their identity by
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jan 2016

creating a trust, llc, or similar. That way, the winner of record is the trust. The identity is probably still discoverable, but it would take a fair amount of sleuthing. I happen to know this because I live in Tennessee and there was a major winner very recently who did this:

http://www.wsmv.com/story/30662605/winner-claims-powerball-jackpot-ticket-sold-in-antioch

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
18. I'm not questioning your ethics, but wish to note merely that most employers will lay you
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jan 2016

off or dismiss you without any advance warning whatsoever. So this idea of 'giving notice' out of some sense of moral obligation is basically a one-way street.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
72. Twice I've been laid off, each time was without warning or ceremony.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jan 2016

First time was a major corporation, second time was a small firm (the small firm brought me back after 6 months or so, and I'm still there today.)

So, in my experience, the typical lay-off is an unexpected closed door meeting, followed by an unexpected short work day and an early trip home.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
104. to me that is just a myth
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jan 2016

Of course, it depends on how you define a "small" business.

From where I sit, my business was a small business. It was a one man operation with about $18,000 in annual gross sales. It wasn't even a going concern, but it was on the main street of a small town for over seven years. (There's that word again. Some people consider Lawrence, Kansas to be a "small town" (compared to what?))

The factory where I worked, with 200 employees - I do NOT consider that to be small. Compared to my shop that is quite large.

But what is the standard? Compared to Wal-mart or RCA that is tiny.

The question is, what does somebody think of when they hear the word "small business"? Do they think of places with a dozen or less employees, or do they think of a place with 200? Is the division between small-large-and huge, or is it between big-small and tiny? Most people are working for fairly large places, places with more than 20 employees.

1939

(1,683 posts)
112. I think the feds
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jan 2016

Have defined what they mean when they say small business. It would take some internet searching, but there must exist a published guideline as to amount of revenue, number of employees, or assets which define "small business".

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
138. but that is rather questionable
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:21 AM
Jan 2016

they define it in a way that makes fairly large businesses into "small" businesses.

My question is about the practical meaning of the term. When politicians talk about small businesses or when the media does - what do people think of? I doubt very much that people are thinking of the technical definition.

My guess is that people are thinking of the same thing I would think of - a "mom and pop" store with half a dozen employees or something about that size. They are NOT thinking of a place with 100 employees (or more) or 30 million in capitol.

The trouble with that term is that politicians are always talking about policies to favor "small businesses" and just like supposed "middle class" policies, they end up giving most of their help to pretty large businesses and pretty rich people.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
118. I think the WARN law calls a small business under 100 employees.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jan 2016

My own personal definition of small business- the local places not owned by a large corporation.

But off course that isn't any kind of legal definition.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
139. what is a "large" corporation though?
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 05:43 AM
Jan 2016

The local grocery store, for example. To me that is a pretty big business all by itself. But one of them is owned by this guy who owns maybe a dozen stores. Is that a large corporation?

Even some of the large corporations...Well, the local KFC, I believe, is locally owned. So is the local ford dealership - for a couple of examples.

Also, I found some data about employment
http://www.bls.gov/web/cewbd/table_f.txt

they have nine size classes
1-4 - 4.9% (55.6%)
5-9 - 5.5% (19.2%)
10-19 - 7.1% (12.1%)
20-49 - 10.6% (8%)
50-99 - 7.9% (2.6%)
100-249 - 10.2% (1.5%)
250-499 - 7.2% (0.5%)
500-1,000 - 7% (0.2%)
1,000 or more - 39.5% (0.2%)

Small businesses (as I would call them) are 75% of all businesses, but they only account for 10% of all employment.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
19. How about this?
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jan 2016

Go in the next day to give a few days' notice that they're quitting and if they don't want to burn a bridge ... offer their boss/company some money to cover the cost of hiring a temp for a few weeks while interviewing for a replacement.

ripcord

(5,346 posts)
61. Remember it takes time to actually get the money
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

It you don't have much in the way of saving you may need to work to get through the 6-8 weeks until you get the check.

 

Facility Inspector

(615 posts)
68. any competent lawyer call to handle this
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jan 2016

(which is the absolute FIRST thing a person should do) would gladly front you enough cash or point in you in the direction of spending money since you're a new millionaire and all.

You would NOT have to work once you win no matter how long it takes to process the winnings.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
76. No, they won't. Most states' attorney ethics rules
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

prohibit lawyers from lending to clients; it's considered to be a conflict of interest. A bank loan would be a better and more likely option if you really can't wait.

1939

(1,683 posts)
113. A competent lawyer
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

could call the local bank and arrange a "no doc" bridge loan for the winners based on the winning ticket.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
46. I agree. They are from a very small town and have probably known their co-workers their whole lives.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

They probably feel they would be letting people down if they just "up and quit." Most people see their retirement coming on the horizon (unless they have to retire due to illness), and have time to plan what they will do with their time to give themselves a sense of purpose. These two are probably still in a state of shock and can't really understand how nearly limitless their options are. I think it was a huge mistake to go on national television and won't be surprised if they regret it in the future. They may also underestimate the irrational resentment some people in their community may have toward them as a result of their incredibly good fortune. They seem like nice people and I hope this doesn't end up making their lives unpleasant in unforeseen ways. I am glad to see they will be sharing some of their wealth with St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, which does wonderful work.
https://www.stjude.org

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
97. Agree
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jan 2016

I've always felt the worst thing you can do in a situation like this is quit your job. Ok, maybe if you hate it and it keeps you up at night... I would not quit. I might look for another job and not have to worry about how much it pays. We would not like to sit by the pool for the rest of my life, and I generally think that's bad for mental health.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
103. I would resign with class. I would send my newly hired agent in a tuxedo to
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jan 2016

deliver my letter of resignation to the CEO -- effective IMMEDIATELY. Next, I would send a check for 10% of my winnings to American Atheists. If the president of AA asked me for a Gulf Stream, I would kick his butt out of my office and scream at him that he obviously has me confused with RW Xian. To finish day one, I would hire some fake liberal politicians, sponsor their election campaigns, and assign them the task of following Louis Goehmert everywhere and frequently surprise him by pissing on his ankles. Day two, I would establish a fake news channel to ... Well, that's what this guy would do.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
145. Well, think of it like this:
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

If your company decided that it no longer needed your services, how much notice would they give you?

If you're lucky, they'll let you finish your shift for that day. If you're astonishingly lucky, you'll get to work through the end of the current pay cycle.

The average person has had for more bridges torched out from under them than they will ever be in a position to burn on their own initiative.

for a lot of people, they define a significant portion of who they are from their job and the stability it provides in their life. These people just won more money than they can probably fathom. Keeping their jobs in the short term may give them a certain stability while they figure things out.
Well, that's certainly true. The sudden change can be wildly stressful and disruptive, even if it comes with a net gain of nine figures.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
20. I think they are both extremely naive to think they can keep working at their current jobs
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jan 2016

It will be too disruptive to other employees. There will be constant comments about "sharing"
and undoubtedly envy from others. I should think it will not contribute to good feelings
in the work place.

My guess? They will be asked to resign before the month's out.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
38. This is what my husband said...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jan 2016

he said they would probably make any workplace too disruptive to continue as usual. They don't realize how many people are going to seek them out to ask for money.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
22. I prob wouldn't go back to my current job
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jan 2016

But I would work somewhere. I would be too bored if I just stayed home.

I work would/volunteer somewhere.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
49. The first thing I would do is take as much time as needed to attempt a thru-hike...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

...of the Appalachian Trail. I would use the opportunity to tick off one life-long dream while giving some good, long thought about what I'm going to do with all that money!

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
25. They won't be able to work OR
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jan 2016

live in their humble little abode. These people are very ignorant uneducated people and their lawyer is an idiot. Vultures from around the world will hound them and scam them. Vultures in their own town will drive them crazy with sob stories. These people will eventually lose it all and it will change them forever.

Soooooooooooo. If a rich man has been told it is next to impossible to get in the Pearly Gates. Why in the fuck do all and I bet MOST all of the ticket buyers claim to be a Christian, cross their fingers and say a prayer so they can win the lottery?????????????

There will be traffic jams on their cozy street.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
27. Security is a huge issue
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jan 2016

With that kind of money I would definitely take steps to get some place where I am not known.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
55. As much as gated communities are derided on DU.....
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

this is one situation where they are almost necessary.

Either move to a place where no one knows you and/or won't care or move to a place where random strangers can not simply walk up to your front door.

I read a story a few years back where a big money lottery winner had a woman show up at her door and DEMAND a million dollars!

They moved to a gated community within a month

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. Fully understand the but, but...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jan 2016

I would like to mention this is the good side of corporate America. What I mean, it seems that they feel they are a part of something, they seem proud to be doing what they are doing. As our economy transitions we need to keep in mind and protect them. As a small business owner these stories are nice to read.

At the same time, if I were to have won, I would have been at my attorney's office the next day drafting paperwork to transfer the business to my business manager. Lol

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
36. People have a need for autonomy, mastery and purpose.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

If employers can provide those things, staff will walk through fire for you.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
30. lots of advice says if you win don't do anything rash
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jan 2016

they seem to follow that advice

i applaud them

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
33. They have no experience with this
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jan 2016

Of course they are thinking these things. It is what they have been taught to think all their lives, along with me, regarding investing for the future. No working person could adjust their minds to having this much money overnight.

If I won the lottery, no Church would get a dime, but there would be some very happy animal rescues out there!

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
35. I wouldn't quit either, unless I became a distraction for the organization.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jan 2016

That said, I work for a nonprofit, so I'd stop taking a salary and give my co-workers a raise.

 

Facility Inspector

(615 posts)
39. you could invest 250 million
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jan 2016

and probably see 7.5 - 10,000,000 return at 4% annually.

But yeah, if they're stupid enough to tithe, they'll be broke in a decade.

Scamsters, hucksters, and all manner of sob story artists will get that dough.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
81. I wouldn't invest it
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jan 2016

I'd put it in the bank. Why do i need a return on $250M? Thats more money then they could ever spend. Why risk putting in the stock market and put up with those wild swings. No thanks.

 

Facility Inspector

(615 posts)
92. equities aren't the only avenue for growth
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jan 2016

With that much money, you'd have wide variety of options.

Once your money is making tons of money, you aren't a peasant anymore.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
41. What they do is their business.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jan 2016

Want to keep working and living simply? Who am I to judge?

As far as the tithing goes, I would give 10% too. It probably wouldn't all go to my church, but a lot of it would go to faith-based charities.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
44. In a strange way, it's pretty selfish
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jan 2016

It's fine that they want to work, but there are people who actually need those jobs. Go off and do good things. Let some single mom who really needs a good job go to work in the dermatologists office.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
93. Bull
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jan 2016

Nothing at all selfish about staying at a job that you enjoy, even if you don't need the money.

No one should ever feel obligated to give up a job they like so that someone else can have it.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
45. God, some of the comments here.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

They're selfish for wanting to continue living their lives? Their church is going to take all of their money and condemn them for buying a ticket in the first place?

I can't decide if it's jealousy or ignorance...or both.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
56. I believe it's more concern that even though they want to lead a normal life, life for them has..
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jan 2016

...changed and there will be situations and challenges that they've never experienced before and may or may not have the skills for dealing with them.

I hope so. They seem like wonderful people.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
57. Maybe, but that little subthread at the top
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:23 PM
Jan 2016

was pretty much uncalled for.

I agree, they seem like a great family and I'm very happy for them.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
63. Pastor is picking out his Gulfstream
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jan 2016

Church will abandon them once they've squandered all of the money.

Are we reading the same thread??

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
127. Thank you.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

I've been amazed at what I assume is simply pure petty jealousy here on our forum.

Obviously, DU has decided to hate these folks because they got lucky.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
128. That and they're Christians
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

Too bad they weren't Islamic and said they were going to contribute to their mosque and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Then we could all be like "Yay What a wonderful family!!'.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
131. Lmao. I was wondering what would make winners of the lottery acceptable here.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jan 2016

I think you're right on that one.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
48. I would've gone back to work the following Monday, or Whateverday.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

Not sure how long I'd stay. There would definitely be a closed-door meeting about that!

But they gave me a job when no one else would even talk to me, and so there's no way I would leave them high and dry.

I'm an asshole, but I'm not that kind of asshole.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
110. Thanks to the Citizens United decision, yes.
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jan 2016

You can spend as much of your prize as you like trying to get Bernie elected; you just can't donate it to his campaign or coordinate with his campaign on how to spend the money.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
111. I'd rather give money to ALL Democrats because (as you well know) Bernie or Hillary can't..
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jan 2016

...change the country entirely by themselves.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
146. Sounds like people who won't be blowing all of their money within the next few years like some
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jan 2016

The responses of many lottery winners to winning tons of cash has not been pretty. Based on their initial reactions I would say that these folks understand that money alone cannot make you happy. I have often wondered how I would react.

Your job, your home, your friends, your community are a large part of who you are. Yes, they could certainly change all of that, perhaps for the better, but it could be very destabilizing. Unlike some who made replies, these people appear to happy with who they are and they don't want to money to change all of that. I would call that a sane response.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
53. Good for them
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jan 2016

I've read that people win big and are destitute in five years. Maybe this family will make it. I applaud them.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
54. I'd finish out the semester out of a sense of obligation, but once grades are in...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jan 2016

...I'd start my lifetime sabbatical.

There's some Classical Ramsey Numbers that are gonna' get knocked down!



SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
82. Once the shock wears off, and they have met with a financial advisor
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jan 2016

they will probably do things differently.
For now, the normalcy of what was common to them, is probably not such a bad idea..

By this time next year, their lives may have done 180..

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
90. If they genuinely enjoy their work, and find it adds worth to their lives...
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jan 2016

...more power to them.

My dad worked for over 40 years at a government job and retired with a nice pension. Not a month later he was back at a part-time job, doing basically what he did for all of his working life. True, it was a work ethic forged by the Depression. But I honestly think, too, he liked to work, and did not like the idea of true retirement.

Same with these folks, I guess.

I like their humility. How many other big lottery winners have crashed and burned over the years because they thought they had finally made it?

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
91. Sometimes it is hard to change your entire life in the course of a weekend.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

I congratulate them, and wish them well.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
94. i think they will give a lot to church . but they are probably going about it better
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jan 2016

Than the ones who go crazy with the spending and lose it all. Many don't have a real idea of cost of things and costs involved in maintaining it.

Then they're ate the sleazy types who will take advantage.

Based on this family they seemed to have a happy life .They probably are not overworked.

But slowly with time they may cut back some hours . Go on vacation etc.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
96. OMG...The LAST
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jan 2016

thing I would do with one single dime is give it to a fucking church.
Jesus H. Christ. They don't pay taxes now...and I have NO idea where the money goes.

Husband went to a catholic church that dunned us for $400 a month cuz they were building a brand NEW church
when the old one was NEVER FULL FOR ANY OF THE 3 CATHOLIC SERVICES. He quit going THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

PEOPLE are soooo fucking stupid to believe in that shit. Guess it will help them get a better fucking spot in heaven...maybe they can sit at the hand of OUR LORD...har har har

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
99. They have not said one word about giving anything to their church.
Sat Jan 16, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jan 2016

What nonsense people are spouting here.

It's nobody's business what they do with their money.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
115. Well said
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

If I won, I would give a huge amount to the parish school (build a gym and fund a trust to maintain it) and to the parish itself (fund a trust from which they could draw for big ticket items for the church).

And I know where all of the money in our parish is spent - we get a financial statement at the end of every fiscal year, detailing income and outlay.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
141. Yes, the same way the football players think that God made that touchdown for them.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jan 2016

What a crock of shit.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
101. I hope it works out for them, but
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jan 2016

they might be shocked at the number of grifters, parasites and long-lost "relatives" who suddenly come out of the woodwork. And I hope they hire some reliable and ethical people who can help them deal with all the pressure to cough up money for some "worthy cause" or "sure-fire investment."

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
107. I agree with their thinking (can't just lay around).
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jan 2016

We'll see if it works out for them. Hopefully they have some good security. They might need a gated community just to keep the people wanting some money away.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
120. Sadly, people who've worked a day job for decades often haven't developed themselves
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

in other areas due to time constraints. Also personality bears on this. Some are very threatened by change or lack of structure and they become depressed.

It's the opposite of my world view too. If I had that kind of money I'd help others with some kind of foundation and enjoy travel and my interests that cost money.

Let's face it, some people lack imagination. When I see this behavior in people over 40 who don't need the money but keep in a boring routine I feel sorry for them.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
122. Isn't that the truth. It would be nice for them to pack up the family and tell the kids.>
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jan 2016

"I know we've been in this town for years but I believe it's time for us to expand our horizens...so..we're going on a world tour...probably visiting places and cultures that you have only read about or seen in movies or TV. It will be great for all of us"
"Don't worry about school...we'll have nice private teachers take care of that when we get back"

One thing else that nobody has addressed in this thread. The impact on the children will be life changing in the sense that their Friends and school mates will see them in an entirely different light. I mean, if they had won a million or so then Maybe??...they could deal with it ...but over 300 million....? I wouldn't put my children through all the changes that they are going to have to face. (ESPECIALLY knowing how that they have been raised). You and I have (I'm sure) some skills that we have learned in our life...but that family?? I seriously doubt it.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
123. Thinking of the kids it might be better to stay stable and get over the shock
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jan 2016

They'll be okay if it's dealt with gradually and not materialistically. In that sense staying put and in a routine makes sense!

But still what a waste, imagine the fun one could have!

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
125. How do you even know how they've raised their children?
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jan 2016

Or what skills they've learned in their lifetime?

I don't get the dislike for this family.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
126. I don't think it's dislike at all. It's more concern that being what they are...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

...a solid down-to-earth family unit, that will be exposed to every con and shyster known to exist. I'm afraid for them in the sense that their view of the world will change for the worse. Also, others have said: : "Just let them be and work it out". If they stay where they are, THAT'S not gonna' happen. People won't let them be. (sadly)
I'll be the first to admit that I may be 95 percent wrong and others may question why I care.
To that question...I don't know but for some reason, I do.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
124. I don't give a shit what they do with their money, but...
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jan 2016

I am sick of hearing about these people. I was sick of them from the moment I first saw the on the "Toady Show" the day after they won the lottery, throwing themselves at the public before they even bothered to go to the lottery office. "Humbly" deal with their future, my fat ass! I wouldn't be surprised if we see them in a TLC reality show before summer.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
135. Some of these responses in this thread are just sad. Not only can people not tolerate when
Sun Jan 17, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

someone does something different than what they would do. They invent ways for things to go wrong for them because they don't do things the way they would to them. They won. You didn't. They get to do whatever they want with their money. I wish them the best and I hope their children and their grandchildren will benefit from their decision to invest their money.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
148. "Life is not so bad if
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

you have plenty of luck, a good physique, and not too much imagination." -- Christopher Isherwood

Both in relatively good health -- check

Spectacular good luck -- check

No discernible imagination -- check

Life is not so bad for the Robinsons.

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