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Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 02:44 AM Jan 2016

What is your worst case/best case scenario if a President Trump happens?

It's something I don't like to think about, but what if our worst nightmare comes to pass and Donald Trump becomes our next president. Setting aside hair on fire, apocalyptic end-of-the-world doomsday predictions, what, realistically, do you think would be the consequences? In other words, let's all admit that he's not going to herd liberals into concentration camps any more that Obama took away everyone's guns, as repeatedly predicted by the right. A Trump presidency would, without a doubt, be a disaster, but what forms would that disaster take? And more importantly, what steps would you take in the wake of a Trump inauguration? (No, I won't be moving to Canada, any more than RW nut jobs moved en masse to Canada when Obama was elected.)

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What is your worst case/best case scenario if a President Trump happens? (Original Post) Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 OP
At the moment, I cannot... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #1
Worst - - he is the callous, racist warmonger he appears. Best case - - he's just trying to get Hoyt Jan 2016 #2
I don't know what will happen. Did anyone predict correctly the last ten years? rusty quoin Jan 2016 #3
Okay here goes... Liberty Belle Jan 2016 #4
The world will be f*ed. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #5
I would go with the hair on fire part. longship Jan 2016 #6
First I'll list the positives Reter Jan 2016 #7
I think he is saving attacks/racist rhetoric of black people as his club. If he drops in polls, AlinPA Jan 2016 #27
Past was liberal on a lot of things yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #8
Worst case - he agrees to more tax cuts for the rich, lovemydog Jan 2016 #9
Best case is democrats win the house CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #10
A modern day Mussolini who believes his own bullshit and acts on it with the help of a Republican world wide wally Jan 2016 #11
I suspect he'll spend at least the first two years just posing for his official portrait Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #12
ROTFLMAO /nt BigBearJohn Jan 2016 #14
And having TRUMP diamond encrusted on the WH roof tavernier Jan 2016 #19
funny glinda Jan 2016 #34
The White House will be electroplated with 24K gold. redwitch Jan 2016 #54
I see a firewall against impeachment. safeinOhio Jan 2016 #13
Ha, Yep, that would do it for sure! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #31
i left the country 12 years ago, which was not related to anything political davidpdx Jan 2016 #15
Nothing mikehiggins Jan 2016 #16
Best case: Jon Stewart has a prime time, hour-long show on a major network 5 days a week. Vinca Jan 2016 #17
My thoughts 1939 Jan 2016 #18
Best case: Orsino Jan 2016 #20
Oofgh, truth dat. I fear also he'll totally screw up international relations just for the headlines. JudyM Jan 2016 #36
I'm not too worried. Orsino Jan 2016 #37
I hope you're right. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #38
Full disclosure: Orsino Jan 2016 #41
Keep hope alive ;) JudyM Jan 2016 #44
See Arnold as governor of CA Yavin4 Jan 2016 #21
Best case -- he used to be a Democrat, and now maybe he's a stealth Nay Jan 2016 #22
He'll get caught doing something illegal and be forced to resign. alarimer Jan 2016 #23
The one saving point is his laziness. As a business man, he is only a self-promoter who gets paid FSogol Jan 2016 #24
He makes a left turn, making fools of all his supporters and detractors. ileus Jan 2016 #25
I actually EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #26
Duck and Cover nt Depaysement Jan 2016 #28
Best case: Bush family loses power and Republicans are in confusion proglib Jan 2016 #29
I will wear a customized paper bag on my head with "I did not vote for mfcorey1 Jan 2016 #30
GOP setup and impeachment n/t Jeroen Jan 2016 #32
I think he's using the R's and others just as tools to get elected. He's definitely using Palin RKP5637 Jan 2016 #33
Canada builds a wall underpants Jan 2016 #35
I head south of the border for the rest of my life. Zorra Jan 2016 #39
Best case: I get traded to the Canadiens. KamaAina Jan 2016 #40
Best case: we move to Canada (500km north) MurrayDelph Jan 2016 #42
Real Worst Case Scenario? StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #43
Good call. I was about to post the exact same thing, but you beat me to it. (eom) StevieM Jan 2016 #47
i see no best case scenario spanone Jan 2016 #45
Best Case? He suspends the Constitution, declares himself emperor for life... harrose Jan 2016 #46
. Orrex Jan 2016 #48
ok my two cents steve2470 Jan 2016 #49
Can we compare him to Jessie Ventura? Jim Beard Jan 2016 #50
I think he would be impeached. deathrind Jan 2016 #51
He strokes out by February 1, 2017 JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #52
I know most are treating your post as a "joke" or making funnies. Behind the Aegis Jan 2016 #53
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Worst - - he is the callous, racist warmonger he appears. Best case - - he's just trying to get
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:00 AM
Jan 2016

elected and is pandering to the most ignorant among the electorate. If elected, he will prove more moderate. I hope folks do not buy the latter.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
3. I don't know what will happen. Did anyone predict correctly the last ten years?
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:04 AM
Jan 2016

I cannot imagine trump being a good president. But the reaction to him could be good like retaking both houses. And if that happens, congress might reject any Supreme Court justice he tries to appoint.

I cannot predict things. The only thing I can do is keep pushing for Democrats.

Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
4. Okay here goes...
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jan 2016

Worst case- detention camps, a rise in hate groups inspired by tRUMP, he appoints a Supreme Ct. justice who rolls back Roe v.. Wade, he insults every world leader and just maybe starts WW III.

Best case - He bullies, humiliates and insults members of his own party in Congress to the point they impeach them.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. I would go with the hair on fire part.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:12 AM
Jan 2016

Hopefully live on the Rachel Maddow Show.

Not the apocalyptic part though.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
7. First I'll list the positives
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:33 AM
Jan 2016

1) For all his racism, he doesn't seem to pick on black people at all. He said he doesn't have a problem with affirmative action, and Spike Lee has a point with no blacks getting nominated for the awards.

2) He won't oust dictators like Assad. He rightfully says toppling them lead us to ISIS.

3) He called George W. Bush and his war in Iraq a disaster.

Now the negatives:

Way, way too many to list.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
27. I think he is saving attacks/racist rhetoric of black people as his club. If he drops in polls,
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jan 2016

he will start getting ugly towards black people. The GOP will love it and he will jump in the polls and won't be caught by any of his GOP contenders.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
8. Past was liberal on a lot of things
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 03:59 AM
Jan 2016

Could be playing the game and will not be conservative. He also had millions of woman work for him and I haven't heard any sexual harassment or major problems there.

A lot of potential negatives that are not worth the risk of him as president.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
9. Worst case - he agrees to more tax cuts for the rich,
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:10 AM
Jan 2016

massive increases in military spending, less for public schools & social services, exacerbating inequality and screwing the working class. Maybe another stupid & costly war or two. All of which republicans in Congress are requesting. Many suffer.

Best case - as President he governs more to the center, recognizing that to get things he wants he must negotiate with large constituencies who don't want to decrease social spending or increase the deficit. The majority wakes up and starts voting for progressives in every single election starting locally and moving to state and congressional levels. A resistance movement builds and recognizes that we must take part at every level including taking personal responsibility rather than blaming everything on the President.

I'd continue living my life in what I consider an ethical manner.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
10. Best case is democrats win the house
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:11 AM
Jan 2016

and both he and his VP drop dead the day after everyone is sworn in and the new speaker has been picked.

I could not even imagine worst case but it closely resembles Germany in the late 30s except maybe with a little nuclear holocaust for good measure.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
11. A modern day Mussolini who believes his own bullshit and acts on it with the help of a Republican
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:19 AM
Jan 2016

Congress. He appoints Supreme Court justices which keep the country fucked up for another 20 years or more. Several wars to deal with as he cuts his own taxes and a major depression.
Other than that… not much

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. I suspect he'll spend at least the first two years just posing for his official portrait
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 04:24 AM
Jan 2016

so I guess it just depends on who he outsources to do all the other shit.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
19. And having TRUMP diamond encrusted on the WH roof
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jan 2016

Actually, I think you are pretty close. He will delegate all the presidenting chores, and put on one Yuuuuge reality show. There will be a 24/7 President Trump Show on what used to be MSNBC (viewers will hardly notice the difference, anyway). The Donald eating breakfast in his gilded double king sized bed... The Donald playing golf on his new private course, previously known as the Washington Mall... etc.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. i left the country 12 years ago, which was not related to anything political
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 06:19 AM
Jan 2016

I would continue to fight for progressive policies.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
16. Nothing
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jan 2016

Trump has no principles or politics except for me first. He might be able to surround himself with worshipers and idolaters, and Trump Inc. will definitely have the inside track on any major construction but cut SocSec or Medicare? Shrink the military budget? Advance the right wing agenda (aka Koch agenda)? Most likely not.

President Trump will do whatever he thinks works best for him and nobody else.

Keep in mind Trump is not actually a stupid man. You don't thrive in NYC if you are, and certainly not pull off the kinds of flim flam near-fraud that marks his career.

Imagine Nixon without any ideals or programs or principles. His VP would be a 2016 version of Spiro Agnew.

Disaster? Not at all. That'll come when JEB! beats him in 2020.

The whole world is watching. And they think we're crazy.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
17. Best case: Jon Stewart has a prime time, hour-long show on a major network 5 days a week.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jan 2016

Worst case: Trump confuses the nuclear codes with the numbers of wives, children and mistresses he's had and blows us all to hell.

1939

(1,683 posts)
18. My thoughts
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jan 2016

A President Trump would have a rough time with Republicans in the House and Senate because they wouldn't kowtow to his every wish, but would have their own agendas. He would have to govern by working both sides of the aisle for stuff he wants. The responsibilities of the office would surely force him into not taking extreme doctrinaire positions. He would still have outrageous news conferences and say outrageous things.

While I don't think Trump is the exact clone of Teddy Roosevelt, a lot of the dynamics would be there. Teddy didn't hew the party line and often said (and did) outrageous things.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
20. Best case:
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jan 2016

Those in need get pretty blonde women to flatter and beg Trump on their behalf. He might turn magnanimous if his ego is massaged just so.

Requests for aid may have to be submitted via Twitter, since that's where Trump spends his time.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
36. Oofgh, truth dat. I fear also he'll totally screw up international relations just for the headlines.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jan 2016

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
37. I'm not too worried.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jan 2016

Even if Trump doesn't just quit when it turns into work (he will as he always has), bag men for the billionaires have plenty of dirt on him and will encourage his exit.

Right now, he's enjoying being driven from one cheering crowd to the next. It's not going to remain fun much longer, and that's when he'll go.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
41. Full disclosure:
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016

I also thought he would quit in August or so.

Guess he can still cruise without spending his own money?

Nay

(12,051 posts)
22. Best case -- he used to be a Democrat, and now maybe he's a stealth
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jan 2016

Democrat -- one who'll continue moderate policies. And maybe use the bully pulpit to get single payer because it's business-friendly. Even if he truly is a Republican philosophically, it's hard for me to believe he is as racist as he sounds; from all reports, he has never been racist or sexist in his business dealings.

Worst case -- he's losing his frikkin' mind and loves the idea of turning the US into a version of Nazi Germany.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
23. He'll get caught doing something illegal and be forced to resign.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jan 2016

I'm thinking this man has no scruples and, because he comes from the world of business, thinks anything goes.

Possibly a Bob McDonnell scenario, but that would take years to develop and would only result in prison time after he leaves office.

No, I'm guessing a Nixon Dirty Tricks type issue.

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
24. The one saving point is his laziness. As a business man, he is only a self-promoter who gets paid
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jan 2016

to attach his name to other's projects (gawd knows why?). The more he is personally involved, the more likely the project is to fail (see Trump Casino and his Scottish golf course projects). He's too lazy to do much damage. Of course, just having the racist dope around ruins our standing in the world.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
26. I actually
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jan 2016

Expect an inverse Obama... Specifically I expect conservatives nutters to go mental when they realise that The Donald is a lot less of a looney tune then they are that he, like politicians have since time immemorial, lied to them to get into power.

He's about as radical white bread toast.

 

proglib

(7 posts)
29. Best case: Bush family loses power and Republicans are in confusion
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jan 2016

Best case scenario is that Trump is unpredictable and destroys the Republican Party's hold on power. Especially the war mongering neocon Bush family. Worst case is that he actually strengthens them.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
30. I will wear a customized paper bag on my head with "I did not vote for
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jan 2016

Trump" scrawled over the front of it.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
33. I think he's using the R's and others just as tools to get elected. He's definitely using Palin
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jan 2016

as a tool, of course. He's a business guy and a survivor, so, I think he will govern from a business perspective. I'm not sure if that is good or bad, but my hunch is a lot of the racist crap will fade away. If he got the US out of this stupid service economy, I think that would be a major plus. Also, if he could revamp some of the inane trade agreements, if even possible, that could be a plus.

Then again, he could go off the deep end and envision the US as the return of Nazi Germany. Bottom line, it's hard to predict ... What is predictable, it could be frightening. I don't think there is a middle ground, my hunch is it will be either good or bad.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
35. Canada builds a wall
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

That's both worst and (from their perspective) best. If Trump were President we would actually end up paying for it.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
40. Best case: I get traded to the Canadiens.
Thu Jan 21, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

But there would still be road trips to deal with.

Worst case: Der Combenfuhrer decides to make an example of me. I disappear.

harrose

(380 posts)
46. Best Case? He suspends the Constitution, declares himself emperor for life...
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:02 AM
Jan 2016

... begins rounding up democrats/progressives for detention and/or execution.

Worst case: He starts WWIII and everyone on earth dies.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
49. ok my two cents
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:10 AM
Jan 2016

Best case: He drops all the racist crap and really most-stupid crap he's said, and governs as a moderate Republican, having periodic fits of televised rage because Congress won't snap to. Democrats block his most conservative stuff. He's a one-term President.

Worst case: He really means all the racist crap, and tries to get Congress to go along. Democrats plus a few sane Republicans spend four years blocking him. He manages to piss off Putin, North Korea and Iran enough to set us back 40 years but no nuclear war gets started (I think Trump is smarter than that). Mexico starts loathing us. Canada wonders if we've truly gone insane this time. Our allies start thinking of us like they did under GWB43. He's a one term President, and goes in the Hall of Shame next to GWB43.

Hopefully I just wasted my time.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
51. I think he would be impeached.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:30 AM
Jan 2016

With-in the first year. We could only hope that he would not have done irreparable damage to either our foreign or domestic policies in that time.

Behind the Aegis

(53,950 posts)
53. I know most are treating your post as a "joke" or making funnies.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jan 2016

However, I as a recently legally married gay man, I really do fear the replacement of a single Supreme Court judge and I will no longer be married! Too many people, mostly straight, but a few gays ones too, don't realize the battle is far from over. I am not comfortable, I am simply content, for now. I also fear for the health and rights' of women. Racism will continue to rise, against a variety of ethnic groups. The wealth gap will greatly increase, possibly leading to another Depression. The US' reputation will dip so low, even life-long allies will distance themselves.

For all those that think Trump can't win, I have one letter for you: W!

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