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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's time for good women to understand our place.
Look, the boys were nice enough to concede things like the right to vote and abortion (though I suspect the latter was to skirt child support payments) but for the good society we need to face certain realities.
While sexual assault and rape culture are generally considered "bad" -- and mob sexual assault all the more so -- the fact is, there are things worse than that; namely: The wrong sort of people protesting sexual assault.
You see, we can't have those people protesting against sexual assault, mob or otherwise. I know, I know; we've spent decades trying to get those people to even acknowledge rape culture exists. While you may think it's important to not be sexually assaulted it's more important that the lines of political partisanship remain bright and distinct -- like well-applied lipstick (and for the same reasons: so you can be appealing to those who say they want you to be with them).
So, ladies, for the good of the political fight you need to understand that sometimes boys will be boys (even if those sorts of boys are more predominate in some circles) and it would be better if you waited for others to tell you when it is okay for you to speak on a subject and when you do speak be sure to only say what you know won't embarrass the ones you're with. You should smile more and not worry your pretty little heads because the big strong ones will take care of you.
And while you may feel strongly about this understand that perhaps the best course of action is to sometimes just lie back and try to relax. It's certainly advice to be taken into consideration in many different contexts.
At least we still have abortion when its over!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)and against banning all young males of a certain religion.
Educate me? Thank you.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)do not care about sexual assault and blame it on women but now see an opportunity to use opposition to sexual assault to bludgeon people into Islamophobic bigotry. There are two different issues and they are deliberately trying to conflate them to trap you into the belief that Islamic "culture" means Islamic men are more likely to commit sexual assaults than other men. This is not "feminism" by any stretch, and they don't believe it themselves.
It is like when the right wing tried to get us to favor the war in Iraq or Afghanistan because it would "liberate" the women there. Just a cynical political ploy from people who are not genuine feminists and would not be vis-a-vis women in western society. When they complain that "PC" is wrong to stop them from their Islamic bigotry, it's not hard to realize they would also invoke "PC" about not judging western women on their appearance, saying they have it OK and have all this power over men, etc.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Disclaimer: I'm a woman. Damn near an alert, if I could understand the point.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)then why did you post it in a literal format without caveats or disclaimers?
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)obtuse, inadvertently or otherwise.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)you aren't dealing with some people who love their perpetual outrage and are looking for a reason to be outraged. FWIW - I understood right away what you were doing.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,366 posts)Why would anyone alert on it unless they were too dense to get the sarcasm or just wanted to start something. If we can't ventilate on DU why bother. Geesh. Lighten up.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I should have guessed Nuclear Unicorn was a woman.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Honestly, I'm surprised how many think I'm a man. I'm not offended, just curious as to where the confusion comes from.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)and horns is man things!
(lol)
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)dmr
(28,344 posts)was deer hunting. Thought he bagged a buck, but turned out it was a doe ... with antlers!
Must be the water ....
I shouldn't laugh, pollution isn't funny ... <sigh>
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Kpete is actally a first initial with the first half of a last name.
One newbie referred to me as "he", even though it should be apparent that not many males would choose the name Quantess.
You seem edgy, which isn't bad. That's why my first guess was that you were male. Edgy can go either way, but I haven't noticed any other clues about your sex/gender until today. I make comments about shoes, attractive men, etc. I give myself away identity-wise.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)*
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Also, DU occasionally has polls about which "gender/sex are you?" and it's usually about 50/50
bvar22
(39,909 posts)because that prevents any of my own personal biases (we ALL have them, but the enlightened ones KNOW it), or ANY bias on an anonymous board.
Then Policy can be debated on merit only.
YMMV
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Thanks. How does one enlighten oneself? Is that similar to bleaching the anus?
bvar22
(39,909 posts)If you are aware that you do, THEN you will see my point.
That is the same reason Science uses Double Blind testing.
I have stated that I prefer NOT to know.
THAT is MY opinion.
Who are you to question what I like and don't like?
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Kpete is actually a woman.
OUCH!
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Just because I prefer not to know does not mean a long term online relationship with an old friend like Kpete will change in any way.
Ge over yourself.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...but if you say so, then you must have an overpowering scent.
Not surprising.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)But, i read practically every post she makes, so i would have to be pretty oblivious. In all honesty though, i was probably guilty of thinking she was a he for the first couple months before i started to realize i was wrong.
The "pete" threw me.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)although not as often as I used to.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Trinity: My name's Trinity.
Neo: *The* Trinity? Who cracked the IRS d-base?
Trinity: That was a long time ago.
Neo: Jesus...
Trinity: What?
Neo: I just thought... you were a guy.
Trinity: Most guys do.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Fla Dem
(23,573 posts)on DU and just assume posters are male. After all, women shouldn't worry their pretty little little heads over politics.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)And the Senate.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I had had no idea that women's rights were so conditional.
This has been an unhappy education for me.
EllieBC
(2,988 posts)But the honesty at least shows us some people didn't really plan to sit with us permanently. It was just temporary until a new cause came by.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I'm hesitant to reply, because I understand the need to condemn all rape, and particularly mob sexual assault. At the same time, conservatoids are using this issue as an excuse to flag up their immigration concerns, not to actually protect women from rape. The truth is that when White Americans behave similarly, they will largely excuse it.
I guess my opinion is that anybody who engages in sexual assault should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; but the skin color or nationality of the victim shouldn't be a deciding factor in whether we take it seriously or not (which is where I believe right wingers come down on this issue).
But I could be missing something.
Bryant
They do not really care about women. They talk in terms of "PC" which is something feminists do not do.
yellowcanine
(35,693 posts)I know, good satire should not need it but it will still elude some.