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Noam Chomsky Says GOP Is 'Literally A Serious Danger To Human SurvivalThe MIT professor and noted author said "strategic voting" can keep Republican candidates away from the levers of power.
Noam Chomsky, the noted radical and MIT professor emeritus, said the Republican Party has become so extreme in its rhetoric and policies that it poses a serious danger to human survival.
Today, the Republican Party has drifted off the rails, Chomsky, a frequent critic of both parties, said in an interview Monday with The Huffington Post. Its become what the respected conservative political analysts Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein call a radical insurgency that has pretty much abandoned parliamentary politics.
Chomsky cited a 2013 article by Mann and Ornstein published in Daedalus, the journal of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, analyzing the polarization of the parties. The authors write that the GOP has become ideologically extreme, scornful of facts and compromise, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
Chomsky said the GOP and its presidential candidates are literally a serious danger to decent human survival and cited Republicans' rejection of measures to deal with climate change, which he called a looming environmental catastrophe. All of the top Republican presidential candidates are either outright deniers, doubt its seriousness or insist no action should be taken -- dooming our grandchildren, Chomsky said.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/noam-chomsky-gop_us_56a66febe4b0d8cc109aec78
SamKnause
(13,084 posts)I have been saying the same thing for quite some time.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)Since Rayguns firing of the air traffic controllers, and my Dad's subsequent explanation, to me, of the possible/likely ramifications and motivations thereof. What he said was spot on, but just the tip of the iceberg.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Constitution/laws/custom to declare himself President For Life, were he to be (s)elected once?
Via ongoing States of Emergency &/or War for example.
Could a GOP House (and MSM) approve such?
certainot
(9,090 posts)is 1200 coordinated radio stations.
it's just a classic coordinated think tank-fed PSYOPS, with at least 1/4 of those stations parasitizing 90+ major universities! without those university logos to help them sell their global warming denial and other crap the whole thing would fall apart, and so would the limbaugh/trump/cruz/teabag GOP
but it's wonderfully successful because the left and dems ignore it.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Slow with an Oligarch
yardwork
(61,531 posts)Katashi_itto
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That's who we have to choose from.
yardwork
(61,531 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)yardwork
(61,531 posts)If Chomsky believed that Hillary Clinton is just as bad as the Republican Party, he would have said so.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Orrex
(63,159 posts)Please be specific. Thanks.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Please be specific. Thanks.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)Orrex
(63,159 posts)Since you assert Clinton as ultimately the same as the GOP, though slower, I inferred that you believe that Sanders would be different. That he would, in effect, stop the slide.
If that's not the case (i.e., if you don't believe that Sanders would be different or that he would stop the slide), then I guess you're off the hook.
I frankly don't believe that Sanders would stop it, since he certainly won't get a compliant Congress even if he manages to get into the Whitehouse.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Orrex
(63,159 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 26, 2016, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)
Orrex
(63,159 posts)And from what I read endlessly on DU's front page, Sanders is the leading Dem. Which is correct?
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Orrex
(63,159 posts)Why, in fact, should I answer to any Sanders supporter, since they've been ignoring that question for months? They simply post messianic memes about their beloved candidate while telling us that we're all afraid of him. Bullshit!
And if you think that's a straw man, that's your problem. The accusations of fear appear daily on DU's front page.
Sanders' supporters love to claim that Clinton is equivalent to a Republican. That claim is bullshit, of course, but they
love to claim it, possibly because they've convinced themselves that it's clever.
If that claim is true, then please explain why Republicans hate her and have been attacking her for decades? If she's one of their own, then surely they would support her bid for the Whitehouse, because then they could sneak a stealth-Republican in under the radar. How do you account for this contradiction? Don't feel bad if you can't answer, because no other Sanders supporter can answer it either. Of course, Sanders' supporters don't bother to defend their wild accusations; they simply post them and then demand that others defend against them.
For that matter, if Clinton is indeed a Republican, then she'll have no problem getting her agenda through Congress, so your question is absurd.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)about this candidate you support.
Now's it's a rant of why answer any questions from ANY sanders supporter....along with nice sprinkling of logical fallacies.
You represent a what a Clinton Supporter is about? Wow.
So....
You got nothing do you?
Orrex
(63,159 posts)When not one of them has answered the question for months, and they instead insist that someone else answer a question first, I call bullshit.
But I don't care, as long as you vote for Clinton in November.
See you at the polls, maybe, but not until then.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)As for voting Clinton.....well you figure it out.
Personally, not once has a Clinton Supporter given me any kind of a straight answer why I should be voting for her.
Except perhaps the Lesser of two evils meme, and guess what, that doesn't cut it anymore.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)What will Sanders do... Are you really asking this question?
If so, you have not listened to him.
Orrex
(63,159 posts)As for how he plans to get it through Congress? Well, he's been pretty vague about that.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)watch for the post tonight
It is what he can do that she will not even try
Hint - fox and the hen house - many many jobs that will need to be filled - who will get these?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)That's in the article, which you plainly haven't read. You are talking complete bullshit, for petty primary reasons. You are ignoring the obvious fact that Hillary acknowledges the existence of climate change, which is what the thread's about, and wants to stop it.
Yes, you are making a complete fool of yourself in this thread.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)you are wrong. You then tried to invoke Chomsky's opinion, digging your hole further.
Please read articles before commenting on them in future.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)"Slow with an Oligarch"
Your post #3.
"Guess you don't hold to what Norm Chomsky is talking about either."
Your post #11.
Maybe you don't bother thinking about what you yourself post, either.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Maybe you've Comprehension problems?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Karera wa sudeni hi busō no toki shōri wa kantandesu.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)Chomsky considers the US political system a single party with two factions. The implication is clear.
yardwork
(61,531 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)He says voters should vote for the Democratic nominee, which is very good advice.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)That's what her campaign is promising. Minor tweaks, but basically business as usual, meanwhile the poor and middle class continue to see their quality of life diminish.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The same people would still want the same things (basically everything) and would not stop for a moment in trying to get it.
The GOP is a symptom, the disease is far deeper.
yardwork
(61,531 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)You stated an opinion and yardwork stated an opposing (and better) one
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the way the parties, both of them, work in Congress is a symptom, not the disease.
Part of it is human inabilty to see beyond their noses (or short term)
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Long term? It literally surpasseth human understanding. Some things are obviously harmful, overuse of fossil fuels, overfishing, etc but there's a lot of other things that are killing us we don't even know about yet.
Bring on the alien invasion, it's the only thing likely to bring us together and even that won't bring everyone. Harry Turtledove's books about that are cynical as hell and I think he's closer to right than to wrong.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)One of the better of that genre, a longish short story prequel with a prequel.
http://www.rulit.me/books/the-man-kzin-wars-07-read-207243-1.html
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I will... I think we are not going to the movies though.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)We absolutely must eliminate the quasi legal system of quid pro quo.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)The establishment of both parties are bought and paid for.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I don't care what you call that force, it will still be there pushing for what it wants, the name is unimportant. All of history is playing whack a mole with their type of thinking being in the ascendant for most of it.
Harlan Ellison could write the script for this election.
I Have No Nose and I Must Vote For Democrats.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)The rest of the world understands about climate change, left or right. We may drag our feet about making the necessary changes because we love consumerism, but the denial of the science, and the funding of the denial effort, is overwhelmingly located in the GOP.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)They lie about everything, I've backed them into a rhetorical corner and watched them flop like beached carp often enough to know they are lying and they know that I know.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,261 posts)Obama's stance at Paris had to be built around keeping them away from any decisions on climate change. Other countries didn't have to do that.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...welfare for the wealthy. Today GOP is its prime protector, with a big assist from Friends in the Other Party.
DAVID TALBOT: Well, as I write in the book and as you just pointed out, all the practices that we are wrestling with as a country now, the intelligence and security measuresincluding, I might add, the legacy of the killing fields in Central America that your guest was just discussing, in Guatemala and so onthat all had its roots, not after 9/11, but during the Dulles era and the Cold War. He was a man who felt he was above the law. He felt that democracy was something that should not be left in the hands of the American people or its representatives. He was part of what the famous sociologist from the 1950s, C. Wright Mills, called the power elite. And he felt that he and his brother and those types of people should be running the country.
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/10/13/the_rise_of_americas_secret_government
Conspiracies In Action -- for the right cause.
jalan48
(13,834 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)and ironically, that MIC-coordinated PSYOPS could not survive without the help of these 90 universities, who rent their logos to 260+ limbaugh stations to help them attract advertisers and sell their global warming denial with credibility
ALABAMA 8 Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7 Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 4 Wisconsin 4
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)If everyone reading DU did this regularly we could cut down on those numbers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002374653
blackspade
(10,056 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)or understands the consequences of global nuclear war already know this.