I'm OK with paying more taxes for:

[w0nderer]

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healthcare for all
dental for all
paid sickdays for all
$15+ an hour
vision for all
pension for all
better education as well as...
college for the ones that want/need it
vaccinations for all (cept allergenics)


why...i'm a selfish plick!

healthcare for all means less sick people spreading that stuff
less dental pain== less sick and pissed off people
people staying home == less people spreading disease
more people spending money
people can see, so they won't hit me on my bicycle (as someone posted, lotta texters talkers and surfers..can't fix stupid, callous, ruthless, ignorant with taxes)
people can retire so they aren't asshats prior to it
people can get good jobs and thus pay more taxes so i pay less
people can keep kids from dying== more kids== more taxpayers

told ya i was selfish!
or maybe...i just use selfish to make me smirk

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

1. Makes perfect sense. I'm on board.

However it's only natural, that making sense, nearly half of the public at large won't be able to grasp the concept.

[w0nderer]

3. common sense isn't half as common as it's supposed to be n/t

[tecelote]

4. That's because half the country is Republican.

And, that makes no sense.

[w0nderer]

7. maybe

last i heard voting participation was in the 50% or so range

ie...%25 percent were voting republicans

yeah?

and i agree, no makie sensie

[former9thward]

90. Which means 25% were voting Democrats.

Math is funny like that.

[w0nderer]

100. point i was hoping to make was

50% aint voting

why fight largely for the 25% democrats and 25% republicans?

when there is a voter pool that's largely untapped

[former9thward]

124. Its not untapped.

Every election both parties talk about getting people to vote that don't normally vote. Except it almost never happens. They are not voting because they don't want to vote. It is that simple. And you can't make people do things they don't want to do unless you point a gun at them.

[Hortensis]

9. If only conservatives had no sense.

The beliefs of normal (not extreme) conservatives make perfect sense to them -- at least they used to and still do as long as they're not required to explain what the hell they're doing these days. Yes, I'm extremely willing to pay more in taxes to pay less for medical care than I would in premium dollars. That's not how conservatives see it, though; they imagine that the cost will be a destroyed society, like Rome long ago, and that it is far, far, far too high to pay.

We can't wish them away, or enlighten them by explaining our ideology to them. Their parents and grandparents felt the same way about Social Security, unemployment insurance, and later Medicare, and those programs were enacted during periods when a change in national mood (as in response to extreme national suffering that even affected the middle classes) made it possible, not periods when liberals happened to be in the mood. The question is are they finally ready for further change on terms we can all agree on?

[madokie]

2. Scoot your ass over on that bench there

I want to sit down with you too.

I want the government on my back, fuck this getting the government off our backs as the great one saint ronnie pushed off on us. Actually it wasn't him as he only played a part it was the neo-CONs behind him who ruled

ETA: I'm not so sure that taxes would have to be raised on you and I if the rich paid their fair share and we cut back on our Pentagon budget a tad.
War is an admission of failure.
All war does besides kill and destroy is make more enemies.

[w0nderer]

5. *scooch* have a seat

got a cooler and popcorn, coke, mtn dew, fanta or beer?


well he was a part of it (st ronnie)

my point though i have sold repugs on the above points..by using 'selfish' reasons


well yeah vaccinations cost, but.....your kid will be safer!

sure.... sickdays suck and you pay taxes...but they wouldn't really do much anyway and would get people sick!

kinda thing

[clarice]

13. What is the income line between rich and not rich?

What percentage should the Feds take?

[madokie]

20. Just a guess here

but my bet is you and I don't fit in the rich category

Everyone should be paying their fair share. by that I mean as our tax laws are written. I/we pay our taxes and do it with a smile because we know that it is through them that we have a somewhat functioning government

[clarice]

21. 100%nt

[randys1]

30. Mittens paid 15% on his income because he doesnt work for a living, his money does.

Making the rich actually pay their fare share goes a very long way in getting us the shit we need to survive.

Like an education, healthcare, dental care, housing, food, etc.

We have enough money and natural resources here to do it, problem is the rich have it all.

[madokie]

38. In mittens case

I'm sure that is on only what he couldn't hide in the cayman islands and other tax havens etc.

I really don't trust him for a second

[DFW]

102. There's a question I ponder a lot

Of course, you people living stateside have state income tax to contend with in all but a few states, so the question of what the feds should take would probably elicit different answers, depending on where you ask.

I would be thrilled to still pay full boat in US taxes. In Germany, I get zero health coverage of any kind, zero pension consideration, and between the Germans and the USA, despite the double taxation treaty, there are parts of my income that both governments want to tax, so until that is resolved (going on four years now!), I pay an effective rate of about 65%--that's total, not marginal. To get health coverage in Germany, due to my pre-existing condition (heart issues) and age (will be 64 this year), I was quoted €2500 a month, or about $33,000 a year, so I don't. I'm stuck with Blue Cross from the States, who did keep me on, but deny all claims from German doctors and hospitals, even though they are far cheaper than the same treatment in the States. If I get seriously ill, I would probably have to charter a private jet to Dallas to be where I was covered, and could probably STILL do it for less than a year of German coverage would cost. As it is, I pay €400 a month for my wife's coverage, since she retired at age 60, and she has no coverage there until she hits age 65. Despite what some optimists might post here, there is no universal heath care coverage in Germany.

[valerief]

6. Same here! I hate that all our taxes go to WAR PROFITEERS. nt

[REP]

8. Infrastructure, social programs, universal healthcare, education

Infrastructure is our roads, bridges, parks, water systems, electric grids, Internet access, etc. Repairing, improving and maintaining these things means jobs, and better quality of life for all of us.

Social programs means feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the physically/mentally ill, assisting those who need assistance managing their lives at the level that grants the most benefit and independence that is safe, etc.

Universal healthcare is something we all pay into at the level we can afford but receive the exact same high quality of care.

Education: no matter where you live, you can walk to your primary/secondary school and receive the same high quality education in the same safe, clean, modern environment available anywhere else in your town, city, state. University and vocational-technical education is as much a right as primary education.

[w0nderer]

11. hi

have a seat on the bench with me and madokie and others


cooler to the left with coke, mtn dew, beer, water and fanta, popcorn to the right



i do believe that politicians should get maximum of lowest level of this

ie...politician gets cheapest crappiest healthcare
..dental
vision
pension
education for kids (tough on the kids but hey....)

[bigwillq]

10. I don't mind paying (more) taxes

as long as the tax money is well-spend and not wasted.
I feel too much of the tax money is wasted or not used properly.

[clarice]

14. Yes... on hopeless Gov programs. IMHO.

[clarice]

12. Curious...what percentage of your income....

are you personally prepared to pay? Not the rich, not the 1%...you personally.

[w0nderer]

17. spoken like the richer senses

how about i go from 25k to 22k?
3 k per year on my paycheck, i'm ok with that despite the 55+ hours per week i do

NOW post yours...or fade out ....

[clarice]

18. I paid...$53,000.00 dollars to the Gov last year...

Would you say that is a fair? Fade out indeed! if I did that...who's gonna make up the difference...you?
Careful before you attack Clarice....her key board is sharper than a mamba's fang.

[w0nderer]

25. congrats

depending on what you made and what you worked i might say it's fair




did you spend more than 60 hours working a week ?



if I did that...who's gonna make up the difference...you?

sound a little 1% do we?


i'm ok with you fading out
i'm sure some other person will take your place

[clarice]

26. I've always been curious...what exactly is the criteria for being in the 1%? nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. and you could have let your fingers do the walking

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

Oh and here from The Atlantic

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/the-top-1-percentand-01-percentof-every-age-group-in-america/382094/

[clarice]

33. EXCELLENT....you are the queen of Googleography......just what I was looking for. thanks nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. You welcome

but you still could have used the google yourself.

[clarice]

52. Guilty. lol. nt

[randys1]

32. Ignore the whining. First, we dont know what anybody here actually makes, now do we.

And this is supposed to be a place for LIBERALS, but we both know there are many here who are not, at all, in any way shape or form, liberal.

A liberal gladly pays 50% of income to taxes as long as the money is used to provide healthcare for all, dental care for all, education for all, and decent housing for all.

Hell, you could pay more than 50% if we had everything set up the way it should be.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

44. Why don't you put up a poll

And ask how many liberals on this board would be willing to give up 50% of their income, regardless of what that income is, to taxes.

If your criteria to be a liberal is that one is willing to pay 50% of their income to income taxes, I'd venture to say you won't find many liberals anywhere.

[randys1]

45. So you wouldnt be willing to give up half of your income to guarantee healthcare for all, education

for all, housing for all, the way they do it in the Scandinavian countries?

Jobs for all, vacations, sick leave, etc.

Really?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

50. No, I would not n/t

[randys1]

54. TO insure all have food, housing, jobs, educatoin, healthcare, I would do it in an INSTANT

but then I am a liberal.

It is the definition of a liberal.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

56. No, it's YOUR definition of a liberal

And I'm with clarice - if you feel that strongly about it, then send 50% of your income into the IRS on April 15.

[randys1]

57. Right STRAIGHT off of the most RIGHTWING BOARDS in the country.

But I am not surprised.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

62. Are you saying it's rightwing to live your convictions?

To walk the walk? Hmm, interesting.

If you feel so strongly that 50% of your income should go to taxes, then you should voluntarily send the IRS 50%.

That's walking the walk rather than just talking the talk.

[randys1]

63. 3rd time now, twice by you and once by the other, one of the most RIGHTWING TALKING

POINTS out there.

Do you have any other rightwing talking points you want to tell me?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

64. I don't know any rightwing talking points

You seem to be the authority on that.

But try to concentrate and answer the question - why are you saying it is rightwing to live your convictions?

[nadinbrzezinski]

65. Well personally I would love to see a MORE PROGRESSIVE tax rate

one that makes the very wealthy PAY MORE proportionally than the less well to do, like we used to have. This is where we currently stand.



and another useful chart

[clarice]

87. lol....great post...but I'm afaid that it is falling on deaf ears. nt

[clarice]

59. ohhhhhhhh....be careful...your adversary is well known for baiting...then alerting. nt

[LanternWaste]

79. Almost as absurd as pretending one poster is someone else simply to save face and change subjects.

"well known for baiting...then alerting."

Well, that sounds almost as absurd as pretending one poster is someone else simply to save face and change subjects.

[clarice]

88. Thanks Randi. nt

[leftynyc]

112. No - I wouldn't

There is too much fraud going on for me to cough up half my hard earned salary. When the government stops subsidizing farmers and oil companies, then we can talk.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

42. What the hell does

how many hours someone worked or where they worked have to do with whether or not they pay enough in taxes?

That doesn't even make sense.

[cleanhippie]

111. You paid more in taxes than most working families earn in income?

If you paid 50K in taxes, your income is likely absurdly high. And you're complaining about that?


On edit: I ran some numbers just to see what income would be needed to have to pay 50K in taxes. $250000 gross income gets you a 53K tax bill. Are you saying that 21% of your income going to taxes leaving you with 200K is a burden on you and your lifestyle?

http://www.redriverbank.net/tools/calc/Tax1040.asp

[clarice]

119. actually.... I believe that we are in the 35%-38% bracket...

But to your points...

"absurdly high" is a subjective comment.

"You paid more in taxes than most working families earn in income"...perhaps...but we took a tremendous risk
in starting our own company. It was very tough for many years. I would not be presumptuous enough to comment
on "working class families income". It is not my business, and not germane to my post.


"Are you saying that 21% of your income going to taxes leaving you with 200K is a burden on you and your lifestyle"

I didn't say that it was a burden on my lifestyle....I simply implied that that was a LOT of money to send to "The Government"
I believe that $53,000.00 is a hefty contribution and that I should not be vilified for the fact that I made a lot of money..
instead, I would expect a hearty thank you.

[yeoman6987]

51. Italians pay around 40 percent

I think we could raise ours to 35 percent for all so we can have all the things written.

[clarice]

89. 35% across the board ? nt

[yeoman6987]

91. Yes across the board

That was done in Italy and seems to work fine. They may have higher for millionaires but I didn't know any the 3 years I lived there. For example, my friend who made 2,000 euros a month brought home 1100 euros to spend as she wished. I thought wow, but she showed me her pay stub. Local taxes were also deducted but much lower percentage.

[clarice]

92. 35% ...Even for low income wage earners? nt

[yeoman6987]

97. Yes. My friend was a relatively low wage earner.

[yeoman6987]

98. Keep in mind what they get.

Free hospital and medical, paid 1 year to take care of child. Free college. That is pretty incredible for 35 percent.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Wages are not taxes, though can be taxable

[clarice]

16. It's not a question of mandate....everyone is able to pay more tax...if they want to....

simply add to you 10-40 form....it's that easy. I wonder how long the waiting line is?

[restorefreedom]

19. you beat it with a "mandate" heh heh

On Tue Jan 26, 2016, 06:56 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

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[clarice]

22. Are you serious...that post was alerted? My oh My. nt

[restorefreedom]

23. yup. its gettin crazy! nt

[clarice]

24. wow ~!! Thanks for the heads up Freedom. Guess I had better start towing the line. nt

[restorefreedom]

27. lol....that's what the thought police want us to do!

guess its not working though

0-7 excellent!

[clarice]

28. You are my hero/heroine. nt

[restorefreedom]

29. pishaw....right back atcha! :) nt

[randys1]

35. That post is STRAIGHT out of rightwing land

[restorefreedom]

36. which one? nt

[randys1]

37. The one that was alerted on

[restorefreedom]

39. i think its fair to point out

that many are paying a heavy tax burden proportionately, while the uber rich skate with their cayman islands tax havens

i don't want to put words in the posters mouth, but that was the gist as i read it

did you have a different take?

[randys1]

40. No, that wasnt their point at all. And your defending them tells me what I need to know

[restorefreedom]

41. please elaborate, if you care to nt

[SickOfTheOnePct]

43. He won't

He just makes accusations based on what he believes someone else is thinking, and 99.9999999999999999999% of the time, he's wrong.

[randys1]

46. I just make sure rightwing comments are pointed out...

which makes me a busy boy around here

[SickOfTheOnePct]

48. Yes, we know

It's up to you to keep DU ideologically pure.

[randys1]

49. I couldnt do that, there are way too many rightwingers here...way too many

[SickOfTheOnePct]

53. Well shoo then and track them down!!

We depend on you to keep us safe.

[randys1]

55. I just like being around liberals. Too bad so many folks here arent

[SickOfTheOnePct]

58. Oh, don't be sad

[randys1]

60. It does make me sad to have to deal with people who are here for reasons that

are not conducive to being liberal.

[clarice]

66. lol. best post of the day. nt

[LanternWaste]

81. Bias often forces low expectations.

Bias often forces low expectations.

[beevul]

71. Its not right wing to point it out...

Its not right wing to point it out when someone lacks the courage to match their stated convictions.

Sorry but its not.

[randys1]

73. And again...where am I again?

[beevul]

74. In the position you put yourself in...

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By authoring checks of conviction which your courage cant seem to cash.

That's on you. Nobody made you do it.

And theres NOTHING right wing about pointing it out, any more than its right wing to point it out when a poster is engaging in blatant hypocrisy.

And you know it.

[randys1]

75. And again, and again, how many times is it now the rightwing talking point has been

stated in this thread?

Anybody keeping track?



Hysterical

[SickOfTheOnePct]

77. Yes, you are n/t

[beevul]

78. Calling it right wing does not make it so.

Calling it right wing does not make it so. Particularly when called so by you, who sees most opponents in any given disagreement as 'right wing'. If you lack the courage of your convictions, it isn't because the right wing made you do it, and it isn't right wing to point it out.

But I get it, that's all you got.

[clarice]

85. OMG....you are soooo correct...but be carefull...other poster likes,,,,

nothing better than picking fights....then alerting on your behind.

[beevul]

93. I know...

other poster likes,,,,nothing better than picking fights

I know, but I'm better at winning them than he/she is at picking them.

I've tangled with that poster before numerous times. He/she knows, should it continue, that I will not retreat or surrender or follow some random tangent down a rabbit hole, and instead I'll nail him over and over on the same point while keeping well within the rules until he cries uncle or runs away. That's how debates are won and lost, and besides, that's just how I roll.

I half jokingly chose my avatar for a reason:

When Godzilla is attacked, he advances instead of retreating.

Then, he kicks your ass.

In all seriousness though, I don't entertain arguments which are contrary to obvious truth, and I detest hypocrisy, regardless of the party affiliation of the person engaging in it. If folks are going to make those arguments, or engage in hypocrisy, I figure its a public service to point it out. After all, arguing against obvious truth and/or engaging in hypocrisy is a choice, not a nervous tick or an involuntary spasm, and nobody forces anyone into it. Others are entirely free to do either, and I and others are entirely free to point it out, as loud and frequently as we like.

[clarice]

94. My new friend. *sigh* nt

[beevul]

95. Don't let it get to you.

Just remind yourself that you are on the ethical high ground.

[restorefreedom]

61. well, my office door is always open for discussion. nt

[clarice]

67. lol.....I love this thread....be careful though.. some people are very quick on the alert button..

I won't mention anyone in particular. lol

[restorefreedom]

68. lol....i will keep my eye out :). nt

[LanternWaste]

80. That's an ironic allegation if we regard from whom it came.

That's an ironic allegation if we regard from whom it came.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

82. No idea what you're talking about

No idea what you're talking about

[clarice]

86. Don't try to figure it out.....poster is not worth an alert. nt

[leftynyc]

114. What BULLSHIT alert

As a single person, I already pay more than anyone who is married or has children. No - I wont cough up one more dime without speaking out. When the government stops paying people to breed, then we can talk.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

96. I think most Duers would rather donate money to charities than go that route.

I know I do. I prefer knowing all the additional money goes to food banks and healthcare for the poor instead of a big chunk going to things like wasteful defense contracts and supporting war. Along with a change in the tax system there would need to be a change in the way in the money is spent and we aren't going to get programs like the OP is suggesting without voting out a lot of the scumbag Republicans we have in office now. I would happily pay more in taxes if more of that money went to those things. For now, I will just donate what I can directly to those causes and support the candidates I feel will work best to make the changes suggested.

[clarice]

99. yup. nt

[CharlotteVale]

47. K&R

[Victor_c3]

69. I lived in Europe for 4.5 years and it really opened my eyes to the world

You can have it all. You can have a country that takes care of it workers, puts an emphasis on the environment, and provides a huge social safety net yet still be a leading economic power. Germany is just that. After China, Germany is the second largest exporter of manufactured goods in the world. If you want to buy something and you want the best, you buy a German product.

Why can't we have that?

Their cities are clean and feel safe wherever you go. Public transportation is amazing and if you live in the right areas, you hardly even need to own a car except for convenience. Their communities are a nice blend of commercial and residential properties and you essentially live within walking distance of where you do your daily shopping, the train station that brings you to work, and the social center of your community.

Sure, you pay more in taxes, but you get so much out of it. As with anything else, you get what you pay for. You pay crap you're going to get crap.

[GOLGO 13]

76. + German girls are hot!

++ I hear good thing about the beer as well.

[DFW]

103. I live in Germany, but I hate beer

They definitely do have some nice women there. I even tricked one of them into marrying me. She is nearsighted, and didn't see what she was getting into until it was too late. Her genes are strong, too. In this pic, taken last year, she is 63 and our two girls are 32 and 30. I've been with her almost 42 years now and don't regret it for a second.

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[w0nderer]

108. +1 German beer? naah i'll do Danish n/t

[DFW]

116. To me, that's like telling a vegan what cut of steak you prefer n/t

[w0nderer]

117. ahhh ...nice picture anyway n/t

[DFW]

121. We, the beer ignorant

We have to compensate as best we can

[w0nderer]

122. Me the beef ignorant

i used to love beef
but worked in a beef slaughter house


i'll still eat beef but only when i see it slaughtered and only in tartar mode!

[DFW]

123. Beef has been off my menu for 12 years now

Ever since I discovered I have serious (as in stents, etc.) heart issues, the doctors have told me a bunch of things I can't touch, and beef is right up there. They said that if it walks on 4 legs, don't eat it.

[The2ndWheel]

84. They're not paying for their empires anymore

The US taxpayer is. The US military is the developed world's military, but we're the only ones that pay for it. The US government is fine with that, because nobody can tell it no. European countries are fine with it, because they can spend their money on their social programs.

Plus there are additional variables that make situations and circumstances different. Geographically, European countries are more condensed. They're also separate smaller countries, unlike the US. Nor does it seem like Europe will be the United States of Europe any time soon. All older cities. The nation of Germany is smaller than the state of Montana. Germany may be the 2nd largest exporter of goods, but that's because others aren't. The same way the US was a manufacturing powerhouse decades ago, because nobody else was playing that game for a while. If we live on a finite planet, then everything is give and take. So not everyone is going to have it all.

[redstateblues]

101. China? Slave wages and incredible pollution?

No thanks

[w0nderer]

120. how did china get into the conversation? n/t

[JDPriestly]

70. K&R.

[hifiguy]

72. I, also.

But not one penny more for Eternal War Everywhere.

[w0nderer]

109. that's why i'm not overpaying my 1040

if i could specify 'not for military'
i'd be ok with it

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

83. You graciously blame poor eyesight for getting hit on your bicycle?

Those drivers might already have 20/20 vision. But, being focused on the emails and texts, or just generally driving with their heads firmly up their butts, I don't think corrective lenses will help.

[w0nderer]

107. I live in an area with a lot of snowbirds

but yes i've been hit with email/text/surfing/putting on make up people type people(not paying attention to traffic) too

but visual health care can help seeing

nothing taxes does can help being an "ignorant, abusive, selfish, not caring if you kill someone else because asking if your kids found the milk in the fridge over text is more important' ...person (loosely used)


only tighter rules on cellphone use in a car will do that
and not only rules but enforcement

my workmate got hit by a lady right in front of me:
he was crossing on green pedestrian and he was walking his bike (i had trouble clipping out so was after him) and she took a right on red from a 'miami slider' (left most lane to right most lane into a right turn)

she jumped out with phone to ear still yelling janiiiiice janiiiice i hit someone what do i do now? then jumped back in the car, my buddy barely rolled out of way as she ran over the bicycle completely leaving

fortunately i got her number
i do hope she enjoys her 1 year!

[Xyzse]

104. I'd have added better education in there.

That's one of the issues I am pretty adamant about.
Well, adamant for me.

[w0nderer]

105. i actually assumed it was automatic...my bad...correction added

and i did have college in there but added more

[Xyzse]

106. Oh cool!

Thanks, it is just one of the pet issues I do have.

Coming from MD, me and my siblings found it shocking how different the preparation for other students from other states were for college.

[w0nderer]

110. i took it for granted that when i mentioned college

it would 'trickle down' (ewww hate the expression)
to highschool and so on


not being that familiar (to this day i still have to look up middle vs junior high vs high ages) since i grew up in Europe (diff school levels and ages)

but yeah college differences entry point...even so from teachers from the same school

[Xyzse]

118. Yeah, it is one of the reasons some kids drop out since they are just not ready.

Schooling is also a state level issue, and unfortunately some are not willing to invest enough on the children.

It is one of the reasons I am hating my current governor, and still can't believe he won.

[CommonSenseDemocrat]

113. How do you pay more taxes for $15+ Hour and paid sick days for all

[w0nderer]

115. that's what i wish i could

as is ...if i over pay most goes to MIC, the rest large amounts go to the sadly oppressed rich and middle classes

[SickOfTheOnePct]

125. The point is

Paid sick leave and $15/hour don't come from the government (taxes).