Three more arrested in Oregon Standoff

[avebury]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-siege-arrests/index.html

Eight people left the refuge on Wednesday. Three of them were arrested, including one of the new leaders of the group, Jason Patrick.

Each faces a federal felony count of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation or threats.

"All were in contact with the FBI, and each chose to turn himself into agents at a checkpoint outside the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge," an FBI statement said. "The arrests were without incident."

[Hoppy]

1. Buh-bye.

[Hoppy]

2. When is it Cliven Bundy's turn?

Go after his sorry ass while the focus of these jerk-offs is in Oregon.

[Takket]

16. ^^^THIS!!!!!!!!!!

I have NO DOUBT Cliven is pulling the strings on all this. His sorry freeloading ass needs to be locked up!

[Jim Lane]

21. I think you're wrong about Cliven pulling the strings.

My recollection is that he said something like "I wouldn't necessarily have gone about it this way" -- some fairly mild disapproval but still disapproval.

I think it was the kids trying to outdo Dad, kind of like Shrub pushing on to Baghdad after his father sensibly saw that overthrowing Saddam would be a disaster.

[madokie]

3. Don't stop until you have them all

and whatever you do don't let them go until they've had their day in court.

[Botany]

4. Good!

With 8 more gone from the refuge and the other 8 arrested and or killed two days
ago there are very few of those whack jobs left.

[Warren Stupidity]

5. Time to roll up the whole bunch on conspiracy charges.

These fuckers wanted to play armed insurrection, they got what they wanted.

[ProfessorGAC]

6. RICO

It's obviously a conspiracy and they obviously broke the law. I think RICO applies. Not 100% sure, though.

[malaise]

7. Two cars full of them

Which one was shooting at LE - that's attempted murder

[whopis01]

9. Felony murder charges for all that there then when Finicum was killed.

That's what they should be facing.

[ieoeja]

11. There is no Federal felony murder statute.

While it was apparently a State police officer shot at, it was in the commission of a Federal felony, not a State felony.

Even had they been in the commission of a State felony, felony murder is limited to a handful of very select felonies, not all felonies.

[whopis01]

14. As I said

it is what they should be facing. I realize it is not what they are facing.

[struggle4progress]

24. Here's 2012 DOJ guidance suggesting that there are some federal felony-murder rules:

Making a Federal Case out of a Death Investigation
C.J. Williams
... There are many statutes which provide that if a person is killed while the killer/defendant is committing another federal felony offense, federal jurisdiction exists over the murder itself ... When death results from the commission of a federal offense, it increases the statutory maximum sentence, sometimes exposing the defendant to capital punishment. Of course, any fact having the effect of increasing a statutory maximum sentence must be alleged in the indictment and proved to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt. In non-capital cases, what it means for a death to "result from" an offense may differ depending on the statutory language. There is a presumption that the government must prove the underlying illegal conduct was the proximate cause of the death. This presumption can be rebutted ...
http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao/legacy/2012/01/26/usab6001.pdf

[Gothmog]

8. Good

[Major Nikon]

10. I suspect their supply slim jims and cheap beer is running low

Not to mention batteries for the dildos.

[SHRED]

12. All that "bloodbath" talk from Jason Patrick...

...and he folded like a cheap suit.

Wow real macho.

[flamingdem]

18. Too true, but that may be because his second brain cell reminded his first

that jail ain't no fun for a patriot

[catnhatnh]

13. Y'know CNN purports to be a newsgathering enterprise

and they lead with "three arrested" and then give the name of only one??? And if they were told the other two were not public information I need them to print that and to ask why and to then print the answer...

[Downtown Hound]

15. So much for going out in a blaze of glory

But then, I kind of figured this was how it was going to end. Revolution always sounds like fun, but when the prospect of dying becomes a reality, one may start to realize that a couple of locked up poachers and allowing your cattle to shit and eat wherever you want maybe just isn't a cause really worth ending your life over.

[L. Coyote]

17. Now four remaining. More militants arriving in Burns.

Gordon Friedman @gordonrfriedman
In case you missed my previous tweets: At least a few militants are still arriving in Burns. #Oregonstandoff

[Kaleva]

19. Which militant left?

[L. Coyote]

22. Oregonian has a story up.

The Oregonian ‏@Oregonian 4 hours ago
UPDATE: One man abandoned the refuge, leaving 4 holdouts left #OregonStandoff http://bit.ly/1nB69mK

9:30 a.m. Thursday: Stewart Rhodes of Oath Keepers reports that a Montana man abandoned the refuge this morning, leaving just four occupiers. David Fry, one of those left, posted a Youtube video Thursday morning saying that one occupier did leave and that four are left. "We're kind of waiting around to see what happens. We're waiting for a phone call," he said on the video.

[center]

[Kaleva]

23. Thanks!

[SHRED]

20. For the most part they are using Public Defenders instead of hiring their own lawyers

Where did their "bootstraps" go?