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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTop official negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has RESIGNED over bribery charges
The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a massive, legally binding deal between 12 countries that was negotiated in complete secrecy by industry lobbyists and government bureaucrats. It has sparked international outcry, and expert's analysis of the text show it poses a grave threat to the economy, the environment, the Internet, national sovereignty, and freedom of expression.
Japan's economic and fiscal policy minister, a top official involved in negotiating the TPP, has been accused of taking major bribes from a Japanese construction company amounting to at least $148,000. It's not clear yet whether the bribe was related to the TPP itself, but it underscores the danger of these shadowy, corrupt, agreements.
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99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,573 posts)And now Hillary finally came out very weakly against TPP and won't lobby her friends to vote against it.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)"So it's fair to say that our economies are entwined, and we need to keep upping our game both bilaterally and with partners across the region through agreements like the Trans-Pacific Partnership or TPP. Australia is a critical partner. This TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field. And when negotiated, this agreement will cover 40 percent of the world's total trade and build in strong protections for workers and the environment."
So it seems Clinton is saying the TPP does, definitevely set the gold standard -- as opposed to Clinton hoping it will.In other addresses around the same time, she expressed similar assuredness that the TPP would meet a high standard. In November 2012 remarks in Singapore, she encouraged all nations "willing to meet 21st century standards as embodied in the TPP" to join the deal.
"The so-called TPP will lower barriers, raise standards, and drive long-term growth across the region. It will cover 40 percent of the world's total trade and establish strong protections for workers and the environment. Better jobs with higher wages and safer working conditions, including for women, migrant workers and others too often in the past excluded from the formal economy will help build Asia's middle class and rebalance the global economy. Canada and Mexico have already joined the original TPP partners. We continue to consult with Japan. And we are offering to assist with capacity building, so that every country in ASEAN can eventually join. We welcome the interest of any nation willing to meet 21st century standards as embodied in the TPP, including China."
Here are some of the other words Clinton used to describe the TPP before she left the State Department in 2013: "exciting," "innovative," "ambitious," "groundbreaking," "cutting-edge," "high-quality" and "high-standard.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/13/hillary-clinton/what-hillary-clinton-really-said-about-tpp-and-gol/
senz
(11,945 posts)Clinton didn't cool her heels on TPP support until she saw how it affected her candidacy. Quick about face.
And they wonder why we call it Camp Weathervane!
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...Obama was going to "immediately re-negotiate NAFTA " to protect American jobs.
How soon they "forget" when their butts hit that chair in the Oval Office.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It's workers of the world.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)where Corporate Tribunals get to dictate to US gov't and local jurisdictions what they
can and can't do, without getting sued for "damages" by corporations claiming that
environmental or other regs "deprive" of their precious profits.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It is truly frightening....
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Anyone who backs the TPP is hostile to the Constitution of the United States and the human rights it was designed to secure and protect.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Japanese team ... not a part of the USTR team.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)Where in this article/OP President Obama is being bashed?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)gonna slash Social Security, conspired with insurance industry to avoid public option, in Wall Street's pocket because he didn't jail anyone, did all this for big speaker fees from our corporatist oligarchs when he retires, want to see the end to the middle class, etc.
That answer your question.
randys1
(16,286 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)he goes out drinking with Fallon and pushes him down the stairs
senz
(11,945 posts)If you think opposition to the TPP = Obama hatred or, for God's sake, Michelle hatred, then you really need to slow down and THINK.
There is so much at stake.
senz
(11,945 posts)Try to think for yourself.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... agenda either now does it!
We don't like many of his POLICIES! We are bashing FUCKED UP POLICIES like the TPP, not prosecuting banksters with a lame Justice department effort that can't even prosecute as many of them as Reagan did in his time. Yes, I'm going to add explanation points when he fucks up because I care about screwed up policies, not because I'm interested just in "bashing Obama". Yes, that's the way the Republicans play the game, and they make sure they try to make him look bad, but when they can get what they want, like they did wit the TPP, they actually will help him more than the Democrats where many of them have some degree of ethics in not screwing the American people to help corporate America.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Who should his "lame Justice Department" have prosecuted and for what crime(s)? Please note, neither greed, nor stupidity, is a crime in America.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)amongst other things. You can't tell me that there was no criminal acts in the meltdown at the end of 2008.
There was a lot of bundling of bad loans and reselling them on Wall Street with misrepresenting their value. There was a documentary that won an Oscar that talked about many of this kind of activity that was UNPROSECUTED!
It's no coincidence in my book that Holder went back to working for the banksters after "serving" as attorney general and doing NOTHING to prosecute that sort of crime.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)There is a reason there is a sports color commentary and political punditry industry ... It gives air to the simplistic, if only, analysis ... completely devoid of, both accountability and reality.
If movie producers (and internet commentators) had to know anything about the law, there would be far fewer "jail the bankers" calls.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... for fines, where the amount of the fines with lack of any criminal prosecution of the offenders that would have happened in the Savings and Loan crisis had most of these banks just write off these fines as a cost of doing business, and many of them would continue to just break the law without fear of having anyone going to jail. And of course a lot of cases now have the statue of limitations expired since they let these guys go, so they're getting off scott free. Read more here.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/how-wall-streets-bankers-stayed-out-of-jail/399368/
n May 27, in her first major prosecutorial act as the new U.S. attorney general, Loretta Lynch unsealed a 47-count indictment against nine FIFA officials and another five corporate executives. She was passionate about their wrongdoing. The indictment alleges corruption that is rampant, systemic, and deep-rooted both abroad and here in the United States, she said. Todays action makes clear that this Department of Justice intends to end any such corrupt practices, to root out misconduct, and to bring wrongdoers to justice.
Lost in the hoopla surrounding the event was a depressing fact. Lynch and her predecessor, Eric Holder, appear to have turned the page on a more relevant vein of wrongdoing: the profligate and dishonest behavior of Wall Street bankers, traders, and executives in the years leading up to the 2008 financial crisis. How we arrived at a place where Wall Street misdeeds go virtually unpunished while soccer executives in Switzerland get arrested is murky at best. But the legal window for punishing Wall Street bankers for fraudulent actions that contributed to the 2008 crash has just about closed. It seems an apt time to ask: In the biggest picture, what justice has been achieved?
Since 2009, 49 financial institutions have paid various government entities and private plaintiffs nearly $190 billion in fines and settlements, according to an analysis by the investment bank Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. That may seem like a big number, but the money has come from shareholders, not individual bankers. (Settlements were levied on corporations, not specific employees, and paid out as corporate expensesin some cases, tax-deductible ones.) In early 2014, just weeks after Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, settled out of court with the Justice Department, the banks board of directors gave him a 74 percent raise, bringing his salary to $20 million.
The more meaningful number is how many Wall Street executives have gone to jail for playing a part in the crisis. That number is one. (Kareem Serageldin, a senior trader at Credit Suisse, is serving a 30-month sentence for inflating the value of mortgage bonds in his trading portfolio, allowing them to appear more valuable than they really were.) By way of contrast, following the savings-and-loan crisis of the 1980s, more than 1,000 bankers of all stripes were jailed for their transgressions.
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1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)This is exactly what I'm talking about ... First, both, the laws and the enforcement mechanisms have changed significantly since the '80s (and except for Dodd-Franks, not towards more enforcement). Comparing the two eras is like comparing liquor arrests in the 20s to those of today.
It's hard to argue against this point because you have yet to answer the "Prosecution of Who" and "For What" question; but, you are in good company ... no one has, including this article writer.
The fact is, the civil settlements reflect, not some corruption of law enforcement; but rather, the realities of criminal law enforcement ... in American jurisprudence the burdens of proof are far lower under civil prosecutions than under criminal, with in the latter, there must be specific facts developed against specific individuals. And the corporate structure is designed, exactly, to insulate the top individuals from the facts of the "crimes" that may have been done below.
That said, and after nearly 10 years of looking at this, I could identify only one high profile banker that could possibly be criminally prosecuted ... that would be Jamie Dimon, and for the (relatively) minor crime of knowingly signing an inaccurate corporate governance document required under the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 ... which is/was, only, tangentially related to the melt-down.
On another note, all this "send the bankers to jail" talk betrays a fundamental misunderstanding/ignorance of financial/corporate criminality (that civil penalties recognizes), i.e., the threat of prison is NOT an effective deterrent to financial/corporate crimes ... again, it is the nature of the legal fiction of corporations to survive the death/removal of individuals (i.e., the jailing of individual CEOs/bankers will leave the corporation, wholly, unaffected); whereas, absent a corporate "death penalty" (which is largely non-existent in law), civil penalties do affect the corporations. (Note: While the number reached for the penalties has been/may be too low to have been effective, that is a different discussion.)
mdbl
(4,973 posts)How many people involved in the Enron fraud actually did time? One? Two? There were many known crooks and how many got away with fraud?
senz
(11,945 posts)Huge difference.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)"Japan's economic and fiscal policy minister, a top official involved in negotiating the TPP, has been accused of taking major bribes from a Japanese construction company amounting to at least $148,000. It's not clear yet whether the bribe was related to the TPP itself, but it underscores the danger of these shadowy, corrupt, agreements. "
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)That's how I knew the guy was a part of the Japanese team, not the US team.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)I knew this was about the Japanese representative before ever coming to the comments. Not sure what you're complaining about... Do you expect headlines to now include every single fact from an article?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)if a request for accuracy and clarity, as evidenced by the posts below that just read the title and thought the graft had anything to do with the TPP or America, could possibly be considered a "complaint", as opposed to a recognition that people on message boards respond to titles, and frequently do not read the text.
My post was not a "complaint" but rather a suggestion.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)before yours that appears to be working under the assumption that the bribed negotiator was American.
I apologize for accidentally mischaracterizing your post.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I know DU ... and many of its posters; how some react... and how others bring about reaction.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)but rather, whether those that didn't read the article thought the negotiator's being bribed was at all related to the TPP, or American interests, for that matter.
Those that didn't read the piece, clearly, thought, both.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)"This is not bashing Obama," the person posting it must be an Obama-Hater (tm).
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The canary in the coal mine.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)elljay
(1,178 posts)They just have to wait until the negotiations are over and then get cushy high-paying jobs with a lobbying firm. Totally legal, which is why we need to change things!
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)When you have someone like Holder looking the other way, it never gets done unfortunately. I wonder how many hints of bribery in our own TPP, etc. negotiations exist and are known about but are ignored here.
forest444
(5,902 posts)The second I read "top official in TPP negotiations charged with bribery" I knew it had to be overseas.
We'd never let our bribesters be charged with anything, as long as they're carrying water for the elite.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Prosecute a Japanese Trade Minister for receiving a bribe in Japan and from a Japanese builder?
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)We aren't immune from having people in power commit acts of bribery, no matter what corporate toadies like Eric Holder and those that put him in power would like you to believe!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)We, in the US, aren't immune from having people in power commit acts of bribery, and other forms of corruption ... Hell, I spent the better part of my career, addressing just that. However, we differ in what you would have Holder as liking us to believe.
The benefit many enjoy is being able to seat on the judicial/occupational sidelines, Monday Morning quarterbacking what should/could happen, without the benefit/curse of having to act within the law ... as written, rather than the law, as you would suppose it to be.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)All that money at stake and there is more money changing hands under the table?
I'm shocked and appalled.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)than formulating fair and just policies that are consequently widely accepted by the masses.
Of course these trade representatives are having their palms greased, through whatever channels.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)We all get one life to make things better for others or assuredly worse. Wall St investors either don't care what they accomplish, have no clue what they accomplish or prefer easy money to being a decent human being.
Either way, its bad for everyone but them.
The only thing more effective than voting for corporate rule is paying for it. We live in the most progressive change they cannot block.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)shafta.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)dreamed up the TPPiss. Not even a good Christmas Bonus. These crooks work for agencies like the USTR a couple of years on these types of projects, then go back to the corporate world rewarded with seven-figure salaries at places like Citigroup. It's a revolving door of corporate cronies and not considered bribery in the good ole' US of A. Japan is behind the times.
Triana
(22,666 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)Greed is a deadly sin.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Sad thing is, the people posting on this thread may be a high percentage of the Americans who've even heard of the TPP. Ask Ed Schultz what happens when you try to talk about it on tv....
senz
(11,945 posts)Five transnational corporations control the U.S. mass media, and the TPP gives them more money and more power at the expense of working people and the physical environment, so they won't let anyone to know about it.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)Froman is the US government's lead man in negotiating the TPP. He pocketed a million dollars in exit bonuses from CITI contingent on taking the USTR or another senior administration position.
http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/20/obama-admins-tpp-trade-officials-received-hefty-bonuses-from-big-banks/
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Anybody that supports this fake free trade deal should be called a "free traitor".
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)The goddamned thing was negotiated in secret for the benefit of the oligarchs. It doesn't surprise me that there was some bribery or funny stuff going on in there. The trade negotiators' jobs were to sell out the sovereignty of their respective nations and live the common citizens of each of their nations without political power. The whole think reeks of corruption and treason.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)If you don't get caught.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... about "getting caught", or that you have those in power that make sure that bribery laws aren't enforced.
amborin
(16,631 posts)PatrickforO
(14,569 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)of the Third Way sycophants.
A story about a Japanese TPP negotiator taking bribes and STILL they find a way to play the victim.
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)Only a huge uproar will derail his signing it.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)What happened to no lobbyists promise. Of wait. I forgot we are like the republicans now where the truth doesn't matter. Just gotta have D in front of name. So pathetic people who think politics is a sport where winning is the game.
TBF
(32,040 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Abe, Aso and the Party will continue with whatever they were going to do
blackspade
(10,056 posts)He is unlikely to be the only one.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)How flawed is her judgement not to see this happening right under her nose, while she touted the TPP as a gold standard?
She was wrong on Iraq, and on that guy Bush
She was wrong on interventionism, and on that guy Kissinger
She was wrong on gay marriage
She was wrong on prison industry, and its subsidies
She was wrong on Wall Street, and on those guys who line her pockets
She was wrong on TPP, and on this Japanese politician.