Malheur occupiers: ‘All of us out or all dead’

[struggle4progress]

Idaho resident Sean Anderson remains at the site with his wife, Sandy
The Associated Press
Published: January 30, 2016, 5:55 am
Updated: January 30, 2016, 10:15 am

... During one early morning video posted by .. David Fry, the occupiers express concerns about nearby aircraft and Fry gets jumpy when he believes he hears gunshots near the entrance ...

“We’re not dead yet,” he says, repeating a theme that he and others have express through the weeks of the occupation. They’ve said they will only leave if given immunity from prosecution and are ready to die defending their position ...

Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: “We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.”

Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. “Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars,” he said ...

http://koin.com/2016/01/30/malheur-occupiers-all-of-us-out-or-all-dead/

[valerief]

1. The delusion runs deep. nt

[struggle4progress]

4. Oregon protester demands pardon for group remaining inside wildlife refuge

Posted January 29, 2016 - 3:25pm
Updated January 29, 2016 - 9:10pm
... On Thursday, Fry said the group would leave if it was guaranteed that no one would be charged with a crime. "Obviously, that's not going to happen," Fry said in the video ...
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/oregon-protester-demands-pardon-group-remaining-inside-wildlife-refuge

It differs from mere delusion

[truebluegreen]

2. Wow. The Delusion is strong in this one. nt

[GeoWilliam750]

37. Might you mean.......

The Farce is strong in this one.

[truebluegreen]

40. Even better!

[peacebird]

3. 4 Delusional people feeding each others paranoia 24/7, heavily armed.

Nothing good can come from this.

They sound more & more detqtched from any semblense of sanity.

[eShirl]

5. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars

sad

[Vinca]

6. I hate to break it to them. Now they're four drunk lunatics head for jail.

[wordpix]

9. adult alcohol syndrome brings on delusions of "shining stars"

As Pink Floyd (almost) put it: "Shine on, you crazy diehards"

[randome]

10. Love that piece of music. All (seven ?) parts of it.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[catnhatnh]

16. There's a sad kernel of truth in that

Gone are the "inspirational" plotters and leaders, gone are the braggarts of military tactics and former glory, All run off to save what is left of their' asses. Left behind are four poor drunks with the bad judgement to have believed the boasters and willing to actually risk their lives when in fact they never had a single thing to gain and now are left alone, the last few with skin in the game...

[Volaris]

44. '...drunks,...With no military training...'

The most succinct description of White Republicans with Long Guns that has ever been uttered.

Time to well-regulate the FUCK out of these people.

All of us out or all of us dead...what the hell makes them think they're in a position to negotiate anything other than a plea deal??? I know it's wrong (and illegal as shit) but holy god I want a Hellfire missle dropped on that building.

[randome]

7. They're keeping dogs in their cages. I'm for taking them out just for that.

It was obvious the one dog Fry showed wanted out but he wasn't having it. Asshole.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[cwydro]

23. I haven't seen that one. Ugh.

That makes me angry as hell, and I'm with you on that one.

These people have no place in society. There's something wrong with that Sean Anderson creep and this David Fry idiot..

Something very wrong.

[randome]

25. I think it's just one dog now, a stray that 'broke through' the blockade and wandered in.

But still, why keep the dog in a cage?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[cwydro]

32. He must have had the cage though, right?

Or maybe bought it on one of those Wal-Mart trips.

At any rate, this moron can barely fend for himself; no living creature should be in his "care."

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Wake up America?

Honey, you're last week's news. Come out and surrender, while you can.

[tanyev]

11. They see themselves as the stars of their very own action movie.

[pinboy3niner]

19. 'Drink Hard'?

When there is an actual movie, Dave Fry's character will be named John McLoon and it will be a Coen brothers film.

[TexasProgresive]

12. Send them several gallons of Everclear

and maybe some Mountain Dew. That ought to clear their heads.

[Rex]

13. So they want the government that they hate so much, to just let them go.

Funny, I think is the situation was different they would be torturing and killing government agents. Sorry assholes, you choose death and can at any second give up and choose life.

Something tells me they are too far mentally gone to work with.

[uppityperson]

14. Let us all go or we'll make you kill us.

Delusional. They go between complaining they've been abandoned to ranting about how important they are.

They are scary, dangerous people right now.

[OldHippieChick]

15. Law enforcement lies all the time.

Why don't they just lie and tell them they won't be prosecuted and once in custody - say "April Fool"!?

[Downwinder]

17. As long as they are holed up there,

nobody is going to get bailed out.

[petronius]

18. "If this doesn’t wake America up..."

I suppose there are times when it's the 300 million who are in need of a wake-up call and not the four confused drunks, but this isn't one of those times. Hopefully they'll come to their senses before anyone else gets hurt or more damage is done...

[annabanana]

20. "we're the shining stars"

OMFG

too too funny

[Kaleva]

21. Title of the future book about this will be "Bury My Dildo at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge"

[pinboy3niner]

22. DUzy!

[ananda]

24. Has the FBI sealed them off?

If no one or nothing can get in or out of there,
they won't last long.

[Shrike47]

26. Yes, the road is is blockaded and this is not an area with a lot of roads.

They will probably run out of something pretty soon (marijuana? beer?) and start feeling even more desperate.

They seem to think they can force the Feds to pardon them by refusing to leave. That kind of thinking is just sad.

[womanofthehills]

45. Might run out of Pop Tarts

Shawn asked David if it was OK if he could eat his Pop Tarts.

[dmr]

46. Really?

A grown man asking permission to eat his pop tart?

Must be down to rationing. Are they out of beer & weed?

Shining star must be as dim as they are.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. It's 32 degrees in Burns right now and it won't be that balmy again until midweek. Tonight's low

will be 10 degrees. Good times.

[Kaleva]

28. They look cold and bored.

[randome]

29. "Cold, bored and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[Bluenorthwest]

31. Bitter cold and sick at heart.

"'Tis bitter cold and I am sick at heart." -Francisco on the night watch, Hamlet Act One Scene One.

[Kaleva]

30. Watching the video, I think they said everyone else took off without telling them.

At the 2:30 mark, Sandy talks about them seeing a bunch of cars leaving the compound but nobody informed them about what was going on.

[struggle4progress]

35. Yup!

... “Yesterday, as the FBI began its siege, <Fry> kept following around real militia,” the post read. Several of them told him to go away ... David refused, so they kicked him out of the vehicle on the side of the road.” That means when the militants had the chance to take him with them, to effectively get him off the refuge, they instead threw him out of the car. Now, some of those same militants are urging him to leave, so they can be bailed out of jail ...

How A Digital Friendship Created An Unlikely Holdout
by John Sepulvado OPB | Jan. 30, 2016 1:36 p.m. | Updated: Jan. 30, 2016 3:16 p.m. | Burns, Oregon

[uppityperson]

38. After the arrests and death of tarpman, everyone else left. These guys last night were whining

"but no one told us we should go so we stayed" and are concerned about being arrested if they go. Dave, the 27 yr old, was worried that he'll have to be on parole and this will impact his ability to have gunz. They feel they have been abandoned, but are also the Shining Stars (tm) and had an eagle fly over giving them a sign that God would provide a miracle. At a bird refuge. If only they could get 100 thousand people to show up today.... They are peaceful and won't shoot unless they are getting arrested.

[Turbineguy]

33. It reminds me of:

"If you die on TV, you haven't died in vain, you've entertained us!"

[pinboy3niner]

34. Please deliver this to the 4 drunk holdouts...

Cornelia ‏@PaladinCornelia · 4h4 hours ago

"Pacific Patriots"...or whatever you call yourselves...please deliver this to the #Oregonstandoff when you arrive.


https://twitter.com/hashtag/oregonstandoff?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Ehashtag

[jmowreader]

36. Yeah buddy, America's awake now...

...but not in the way you were hoping: If there was a time in America when the entire populace didn't think sovereign citizens were both insane and dangerous, that time has passed.

[mercuryblues]

39. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.

There lies their problem. It did wake America up. Just not in the way they thought it would. America now sees the militia as a bunch of freeloaders. Stolen valor, send snacks, take money donations for drunken benders, hate government but takes government money, fosters kids for cash, and want to feed their cattle for free.

I saw the video of how they defectors left the place. It is a pig sty. It will be worse once this group of self proclaimed drunks surrender.

They left an impression all right.

[truebluegreen]

41. Actually, they are still just four drunks

without any military experience, but now with delusions of grandeur.

[randome]

42. The GOP is desperate and imploding. (They're about to nominate Trump, for Christ's sake!)

And the all-male, all-white, all-hat-and-no-cattle review is desperate and imploding, too.

I'm sorry but I really do think this is not a coincidence. The entire structure of white male privilege is showing stress. The times we live in are priming us for major changes in our society. That's probably been stated too often but I think it's true.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[Archae]

43. I have a hunch they will end up shooting each other.

Either in a panic over a noise outside or fighting over the last French vanilla coffee creamer.

[randome]

47. Or some of them wanting to leave and the others wanting to stop them.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[malaise]

48. These morons are beyond delusional

Law is not as you make it up - there are consequences for actions - you break the law you go to jail