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why the fucking hell is kasich giving a speech? (Original Post) restorefreedom Mar 2016 OP
I guess media has to keep the race interesting. LisaL Mar 2016 #1
I was thinking the same. redwitch Mar 2016 #2
Right? bunnies Mar 2016 #3
i know.,,,the irony......nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #8
the people who voted for him DesertFlower Mar 2016 #4
Kasich's lips are flapping. NEOBuckeye Mar 2016 #20
i agree, but the people who support him DesertFlower Mar 2016 #22
Kasich did a good job in Ohio, along with Rubio who told his supporters to back Kasich. JVS Mar 2016 #26
He is the Republican establishments last great hope. Tweety wants him to run doc03 Mar 2016 #5
Tweety is the biggest ball of contradictions on Trump Central malaise Mar 2016 #33
Maybe he knows it is his... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #6
He's been selected by the GOP to be the nominee. Cleita Mar 2016 #7
sadly, i agree that this is the evil plan. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #13
He may be stopping Drumpf from getting k8conant Mar 2016 #9
By winning a single state? LisaL Mar 2016 #11
Yes. His win in OH will keep drumpf from getting a majority of the delegates. femmocrat Mar 2016 #14
I am not so sure that's a good thing. LisaL Mar 2016 #15
I was thinking of the chaos at the convention if trump is denied the nomination. femmocrat Mar 2016 #16
Absolutely... Blanks Mar 2016 #17
Kasich only one a single state so far. LisaL Mar 2016 #18
I know... Blanks Mar 2016 #29
And if Turmp runs independent after getting screweded out of the Republican nomination? ohnoyoudidnt Mar 2016 #21
He'd split the right-wing vote k8conant Mar 2016 #27
It was supposed to be game-over if he took both FL and OH. Tonight has still been very good for him JVS Mar 2016 #25
Staying in helps Trump. Renew Deal Mar 2016 #24
His victory speech in Ohio bigwillq Mar 2016 #10
Pretty much every candidate who wins a state gets a speech ... LannyDeVaney Mar 2016 #12
Most of them give speeches TSIAS Mar 2016 #28
Because thats what they do. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #19
He's overjoyed that he's managed to outlast both Jeb and Rubio. JVS Mar 2016 #23
NPR ran a piece more or less declaring Kasich the presumptive nominee Orrex Mar 2016 #30
its clear they are fixing it on the gop side restorefreedom Mar 2016 #31
Is it fair when Hillary Clinton loses a state... meaculpa2011 Mar 2016 #32
its been fixed on both sides. and i suspect that there will be many restorefreedom Mar 2016 #35
A member of the GOP Rules Committee was on CNBC this morning. He explained Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2016 #39
they are free to put whatever labels they want on their "process" restorefreedom Mar 2016 #40
I mean, he did win a state. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #34
he kind of screwed ohio for bernie, it looks like restorefreedom Mar 2016 #36
A brokered convention is the GOP's problem, not America's. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #37
its not about trump or his pony restorefreedom Mar 2016 #38
Again, that would be the GOP and Trump's problem. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #41
its their short term problem restorefreedom Mar 2016 #42
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
3. Right?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie should quick but Kasich deserves a victory speech?! For one fucking state?

Edit: confetti even?!

NEOBuckeye

(2,781 posts)
20. Kasich's lips are flapping.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:19 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing but delusions of grandeur and hot air coming out of them. He's going nowhere, nor should he.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
22. i agree, but the people who support him
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:35 PM
Mar 2016

want to hear what he has to say.

are you such a selfish person that you would deny them that?

according to you the only person who has a right to speak sf the person(s) you support.

grow up.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
26. Kasich did a good job in Ohio, along with Rubio who told his supporters to back Kasich.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

But Kasich didn't pay it forward, so to speak, and has likely cost Cruz very dearly in IL and to a lesser degree in IL.

malaise

(268,678 posts)
33. Tweety is the biggest ball of contradictions on Trump Central
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:54 AM
Mar 2016

Seriously - loves neo-cons but thinks he's a liberal

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. He's been selected by the GOP to be the nominee.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

I'm pretty certain of it. I didn't expect Rubio to drop out so soon. It's part of the plan to push Kasich up against Trump and then Trump will be ousted one way or the other. I'm thinking in a brokered convention, but who knows what other sneaky tricks they have up their sleeves.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
13. sadly, i agree that this is the evil plan.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

subverting the will of the voters is going to go about as well as a fart in church. no, it will be worse. they will be PISSED.

and i cant say i blame them.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
14. Yes. His win in OH will keep drumpf from getting a majority of the delegates.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

It's a f*ckin' big deal! I heard somewhere that drumpf will need 60% of all the remaining delegates to get a first-round nomination.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
15. I am not so sure that's a good thing.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

If people come to their senses, seems like Trump would be easier to beat in general election than whoever else Republicans might come up with.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
16. I was thinking of the chaos at the convention if trump is denied the nomination.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not sure either... it's a big "if" at this point.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
17. Absolutely...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

Trump will be easier to beat in the general than Kasich.

Republican governors tend to win more than carnival barkers

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
18. Kasich only one a single state so far.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

His home state. Seems no way he can get enough delegates for the nomination. If Trump doesn't get enough delegates it could be anybody.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
29. I know...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:33 AM
Mar 2016

I heard that he has to get 85% of the remaining delegates, but if Cruz were to drop out, that would be realistic.

Fortunately, Cruz is too full of himself to pack it in.

JVS

(61,935 posts)
25. It was supposed to be game-over if he took both FL and OH. Tonight has still been very good for him
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:42 PM
Mar 2016
DAVID WASSERMAN 11:12 PM
Mathematically, Trump Is On Pace To Erase His Ohio Loss
Guess what? Trump could make up for all 66 delegates he lost in Ohio with huge delegate margins in Illinois and Missouri. In Missouri, Trump is clinging to a lead of just 2,400 votes, but IF things continue as they are, Trump will capture 47 of Missouri’s delegates to just five for Cruz. And in Illinois, where Trump is winning about 40 percent of the vote, he could win all but a handful of congressional districts, giving him perhaps 60 of the state’s 69 delegates. Wow.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/march-15-primaries-ohio-florida-results-presidential-election-2016/
 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
10. His victory speech in Ohio
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

I think he should be allowed to have one. And you're free not to watch it.

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
12. Pretty much every candidate who wins a state gets a speech ...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

been that way all election season.

Sure, Kasich is way behind, but he did win a state.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
28. Most of them give speeches
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:11 AM
Mar 2016

Even Carson when he was still in the race. Whether CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc. choose to cover it is another story.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
30. NPR ran a piece more or less declaring Kasich the presumptive nominee
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:37 AM
Mar 2016

Curiously, no mention of Cruz in their assessment, but apparently a single home-state victory is enough to secure the Republican nomination.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
31. its clear they are fixing it on the gop side
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:47 AM
Mar 2016

and kasich is the chosen one. like trump or not, this is wrong as wrong can be. why even bother with the pretense of voting anymore...lets just declare ourselves a third world country and get it over with.

if i was younger, i would be so out of this fucked up country.

meaculpa2011

(918 posts)
32. Is it fair when Hillary Clinton loses a state...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:51 AM
Mar 2016

but gains delegates?

Both parties set their rules to favor the insiders.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. its been fixed on both sides. and i suspect that there will be many
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:05 AM
Mar 2016

efforts to change the rules and get rid of superdelegates before 2020. unfortunately, if an establishment crony, like, well anyone but bernie or trump, wins, nothing will change....its just like thanksgiving for the estsblishment...they like their fixins and stuffings just fine.


and we will be screwed.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. A member of the GOP Rules Committee was on CNBC this morning. He explained
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:58 AM
Mar 2016

that it is the Republican National Convention delegates that truly select a nominee. That, primaries used to be called "preference primaries" and have evolved to imply that they mean more than they really do.

From Wikipedia:
In case of a brokered convention, Rule 40a of the 2016 convention rules states that a candidate must have the support of a majority of the delegates of at least eight states in order to get the nomination.[2] On the first ballot, delegates from all states and territories except Colorado, Wyoming, North Dakota, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam and a few from Louisiana must vote for the candidate who won their support on the day of their state's primary or caucus. On the second ballot, 55 percent of a state's delegates are free to vote for whomever they want. By the third ballot, 85 percent of all the delegates are free agents

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
40. they are free to put whatever labels they want on their "process"
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:15 AM
Mar 2016

but if it involves overriding the will of the voters, its not democracy.

thanks for the info!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,151 posts)
34. I mean, he did win a state.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:57 AM
Mar 2016

Granted, it was his own, but I'm sure his supporters probably want to hear him talk. Sanders gave a speech too, and it's possible he might not have won any of the states tonight.

And at least he won't waste our time talking about Kasich steaks and Kasich vodka.

I'm fine with him playing spoiler if it means a brokered convention for the GOP. Because brokered convention means chaos for the GOP, and we get the advantage.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. he kind of screwed ohio for bernie, it looks like
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:08 AM
Mar 2016

but whatever, he can have his speech. but whatever short term advantage we might think we have due to a brokered convention, a blatant slap in the face of democracy is never good. if they want trump, they should have him, as odd as that may sound.

otherwise, we are just another third world country fixing elections

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,151 posts)
37. A brokered convention is the GOP's problem, not America's.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:11 AM
Mar 2016

Let them sort out their own mess if they can. But I'm not losing sleep over it.

And I'm certainly not losing sleep if Donald Trump doesn't get his pony.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
38. its not about trump or his pony
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:43 AM
Mar 2016

its about whether the act of voting means anything or is a sham to appease the masses. sadly, its looking like the latter.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
42. its their short term problem
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:13 AM
Mar 2016

but long term, whether or not we are in a real or fake democracy affects all of us.

i won't lose sleep over it today, but it bears watching.

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