One thing was clear tonite on MSNBC election coverage Rachel Maddow & Nicole Wallace hate each other

[TeamPooka]

Holy crap did they go at each other.
That was awesome

[flamingdem]

1. Lol, noticed nt

[riversedge]

2. missed it but I am no fan of Nicolle Wallace.

[TeamPooka]

5. No one is a fan of Nicole Wallace. :) nt

[Jim Beard]

3. Well hell, she is a republican

[whathehell]

4. Interesting....They've appeared together on MSNBC many times

and I've heard Rachel refer to her as "my friend", but I found that rather suspect, given their very different ideologies. Love Rachel, can't stand Nicole Wallace.

[LeftyMom]

21. Next you're going to tell me that Jim Gilmore isn't actually her boyfriend.

[whathehell]

23. Uh, nope..

I guess I'm a little short on my Nicole Wallace trivia, 'cause I haven:t a clue as to what you're talking about.

[Stellar]

30. I think Rachel says a lot of things just for the fun of it...

Rachel sometimes refers to Jim Gilmore as her boyfriend...in jest.

[whathehell]

31. Gotcha, Stellar. Thanks.

[whathehell]

6. I'm out of the US right now, but I've got it on DVR...Could

you do me a favor and just give me a rough sense of the time at which these two went at it?

Hate to be evil about it, but I can't stand NW and would enjoy seeing Rachel let her have it.

[TeamPooka]

7. They go at it a few times. I'm sorry I can't pinpoint it for you better but

when you see the first one and go wow wait there's more in the next two hours at least once an hour. They mostly go at it over the classification/type of Trump voters and Nicole has to defend them of course.

[whathehell]

9. Okay Team, thanks..

I figured it might be difficult to pin down the exact time, but I appreciate your description....I'm looking forward

to watching Wallace trying to defend Trump supporters, lol.

[JI7]

8. actually they are pretty good friends

[underpants]

10. Why is Nicole Walace on TV at all?

She worked in the W administration and was a senior advisor on the McCain-Palin campaign. There is no reason to consider her opinion relevant.

[Cosmocat]

12. Pretty face

And demur personality, making her toxic political views palatable at a superficial level.

[Calista241]

13. So we just pretend Repubs don't exist?

We need to be informed, and the best way to be informed is to have the other side tell us what's going on over there.

[underpants]

16. No but we already know what their stance is

Their dogma is clear and never changing. The only reason to have them on is for repetition.

Lewis Powell's memo of 1971 dealt with the Right's crushing defeats at the universities and how liberal professors were considered the only relevant experts on most subjects. He said they had to establish a presence to at least undercut the liberal bias. This was carried over by them as a model for their media simply to take up time and then to influence a very receptive corporate media.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

[Calista241]

17. I disagree. Their dogma has changed a LOT.

Trump himself has a lot of varying positions that are contrary to past Republican initiatives. His stance on trade, which is similar in many ways to Bernie's, is just one of them.

[Hortensis]

18. Trump is not one of the "them" Powell wrote that

history-making memo for, Calista.

The Kochs and their alliance of over 700 plutocrats are the single largest ultraconservative power group, but there are others. Their stances have not changed in the least and are all some variation of increased transfer of wealth and power from us to them through dismantling of government controls and alteration of the Constitution.

Kasich and Rubio would help them achieve their goals. They are afraid they could not control Trump or Cruz. Notably, most of the conservatives backing Trump have broken out of their small-government/anti-regulation mindset, marking him and them as a severe threat to all the plots that have evolved from Lewis Powell's memo.

[Calista241]

19. Isn't "them" anyone who is running against us?

In any case, we need to know whatever anyone else is planning, and I don't see a problem with being informed.

[Hortensis]

20. My "them" is the people behind those them.

Except Trump and Cruz -- Crazy and Crazier.

[OhioBlue]

22. She did have the opinion that Palin was terrifying as a potential vp.

[Ilsa]

29. Yep, according to Schultz's drama about the campaign,

Wallace ended up refusing to work with Palin.

[floriduck]

28. Because MSNBC is backing a Republican.

Their second choice is Hillary. Comcast has destroyed the only reliable cable news network left, excluding RT and Al Jazeera (which is shutting down soon).

[malaise]

11. And yet the very first time she showe up on GEM$NBComcast

she was Rachel's guest - and the second and third and fourth times as well.

[Meldread]

14. Actually, they are good friends. I didn't detect in hate in their exchange, just disagreement.

Mostly, I detected Nicole's sense that she had to defend her parents. Both of her parents are Trump supporters, and were likely blowing up her phone, "HOW COULD YOU LET THEM SAY THAT!!!1111````~~~~!"

I mean, she obviously hates Donald Trump as well. I think part of it was Nichole trying to play devils advocate and give voice to Trump supporters (mostly her parents), since there was literally no one there who would take the Trump side of an argument. Even the other Republicans who showed up were anti-Trump.

The most heated exchange that I saw was one where Nichole pushed back against Trump supporters being called "freaks" -- except no one had said that. So, Rachel (defending herself against such accusations) pointed that out. Rachel and Nichole were actually more-or-less in agreement during that exchange however, because Rachel was pointing out that if Republicans try and steal the nomination from Trump that they'd likely riot and things would become violent. I forget what Rachel called them, though, she was trying to be polite and not call them violent proto-fascists, and use some nicer term. Nichole bristled at that term, which caused the exchange, likely because she felt that it was basically someone calling her parents "freaks" -- even though that word was never used. She then went on to discuss how there would be insane backlash if the party attempted to steal the nomination from Trump... which was Rachel's point.

[Greybnk48]

15. Rachel has said many times that they are friends.

It's uncomfortable to watch them spar, but she insists they're buddies.

[stevenleser]

24. I would be very surprised if that was the case. Most on screen pundits get along. nt

[spanone]

25. m$nbc, the home of nicole wallace, hugh hewitt, steve schmidt and a whole slew of right wing nutters

[librechik]

26. thank goodness.

Rachel has a lot of common sense

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

27. I haven't noticed that, but I have noticed her relationship with Brian Williams

she's a bit over-the-top supportive but it's nice to see.