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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think we can conclude the people voting for Trump want a winner. Trump sounds like a winner
He sounds like a WWE wrestler. He sounds like that annoying sports star that you love to hate. He's sold himself as a winner and that's all they want. They "lost" to Obama twice and they hate it. They want to win. They don't care about governance, they don't care how the government works, they don't get the government affects their actual life, they want to win. They think this is a game.
Trump understands this and has played this since day one. He has no policies, he has no interest in anything but the title of president, he has no idea how to run the executive branch. This isn't about voter anger. They're only angry about losing to a black guy. That's it. This isn't about unhappiness in the established GOP. He wants to win. They want to win. It's about winning. It really is that simple.
God help us all if he wins the big prize.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)In the real world...Americans want a leader not a pathological liar that trump is..
phantom power
(25,966 posts)There's a reason that candidates work hard to get the magic seal of "inevitability." It's a positive feedback loop.
People respond to leaders who act like winners. Another thing the GOP understands better than the Democrats. Note, you can do this without acting like Donald Trump. There are other, more positive, ways to project yourself in this way.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)... most Americans prefer a candidate that spews platitudes that don't require them to think or even to be honest & someone that will let them 'win' over the rest of Americans and the world. Winning is what Americans like most That is why the Super Bowl is so popular & Trump is viable as a candidate.
underpants
(182,772 posts)The media is already claiming that his followers like his message to the working class. That's absurd but frighteninglythat will be the narrative.
BTW Johonny this is a really good article about why and how he started preparing for his run.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/
Johonny
(20,833 posts)We've learned the GOP in congress have gone too liberal, which is insane.
We've learned Trump is attracting Hispanic voters... he isn't.
We've neared Trump is broadening his appeal, he honestly keeps winning states in the high thirties low forties with very little growth. His male/ female voter splits are alarming. He really does appeal to NFL guy that roots for the dirtiest player so long as he's on my team.
We've seen what blow hard tea party guy does in office (they've done nothing). I fear that guy being the guy in the White House. Does Trump bomb North Korea based on a reaction to a twitter post he read at 3am while high on meth? You normally don't wonder about that from your president. Trump on the other hand...
That links a great read.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Trump will need the votes of a lot of people he's insulted: Latinos, other PoC, and Muslims and other immigrants in particular. Very few people in those groups would touch him with a ten-foot pole. The GOP establishment doesn't like him, either; they won't vote for a Democrat but they might just stay home.
That said, whoever gets the Dem nomination is going to have to work very hard to be sure he's crushed like a bug in November if he gets the GOP nomination. It looks likely that Hillary will win the Dem nom, although it's not over yet. If she does, she is going to have to figure out how to win back the Sanders supporters she's been insulting and condescending to for the past few months. Maybe they'll be scared enough of Trump to hold their noses and vote for her (that's my plan), but she will have some fence-mending to do.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)... is what he will pull during the run up to the GE. He has donated money towards Clinton's campaigns & has been close friends of the Clintons for decades. That gives him leverage over the voters that nonestablishment independents because he can turn around and say "I gave you money to do X which you did. What will you do for goldman sachs etc" He also has no qualms about revealing secrets and such etc. Just look at what he is doing to Christie et al.
I hope I am wrong, but the battle between Clinton and Trump will not be as easy as people think.
Johonny
(20,833 posts)Not a bold statement by me. The point is there is an alarming number of people every election cycle that don't care about politics and don't actually understand politics at all. They tend to swing hard near the end of the election for the person that feels like the winner.
If we want good news it is we're pretty far into this and while Hillary is pulling in that "winner" feel (if people here at DU like it or not Trump is still stuck winning by default in elections where no one seems able to broaden appeal. In other words, he's attracted the GOP people that want a winner, the media seems to label him a winner, but the electoral base of his own party seems to think he's iffy. He's polling with huge negatives. Look at his male/female GOP voter splits in the past few weeks. That's going to hurt him in the GE. Women don't think he's a winner. His act has limited appeal. It maybe no matter how much the media carries his water, his act has limits.
pampango
(24,692 posts)No one seems to care what we are winning, whom we are winning against or how we will go about winning. It just winning, winning, winning.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Americans are used to being hit over the head with a message, be it via t&a in a beer commercial, or a break-away chair over a WWE star's head.
Remember when President Obama, shorty after his inauguration, began trying to mend some fences with the nations we had so alienated during the Bush years? Obama-haters still call it his "Apology Tour." Trump supporters respect tough guys, they gladly give their lunch money to the schoolyard bully, but be damned if they're going to play on the team with the wimpy kid. I spoken to lots of them. They don't care about Trump's policies or lack thereof. They're only concerned with having a tough guy, a winner who will kick ass where the black boy backed down to world leaders. Truth be damned, that is the perception they harbor.
It's really sad. There truly is no talking to these people, the Trump stars twinkle in their eyes so brightly. Johonny is correct...they just want to WIN something. Despite all of the things Trump has lost, he holds himself up as a winner, and that's good enough for them.