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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:20 AM Mar 2016

Big Liquor Holidays.

New Year's Eve, Mardi Gras, St. Patrick's, Cinco de Mayo, Oktoberfest...

Which ones am I missing?

The funny part is that even when I was drinking, and I drank too much, I avoided the stuff on these days. Oh, and I stayed off the roads, too.

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Big Liquor Holidays. (Original Post) HuckleB Mar 2016 OP
The night before Thanksgiving is said to be a big bar night Ex Lurker Mar 2016 #1
Yeah, it is. HuckleB Mar 2016 #2
It Was Always A Huge Night For Us ProfessorGAC Mar 2016 #7
Any night before getting together with my Republican family is a heavy drinking night. Atman Mar 2016 #18
Oh, indeed. HuckleB Mar 2016 #23
Labor Day (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #3
my birthday onethatcares Mar 2016 #4
Election day evening. JonathanRackham Mar 2016 #5
I would add Super Bowl Sunday to the list n/t gladium et scutum Mar 2016 #6
Ah, yes. I think that qualifies for these days. HuckleB Mar 2016 #10
I'm sure July 4th is a heavy drinking holiday... titaniumsalute Mar 2016 #8
Many if not most controlled heavy drinkers, as opposed to alcoholics whatthehey Mar 2016 #9
I knew an alcoholic that called New Year's Eve amateur night and stayed home Major Nikon Mar 2016 #11
Because I don't drink at home very much at all I always seem to neglect that others might whatthehey Mar 2016 #16
"Controlled Heavy Drinkers." I like that. Atman Mar 2016 #19
There really does need to be a word or phrase whatthehey Mar 2016 #22
Easter Major Nikon Mar 2016 #12
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Mar 2016 #13
That's the only way I could ever get through a Catholic mass. Atman Mar 2016 #20
July 4. cwydro Mar 2016 #14
Back when I was drinking, I only drank on.... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #15
Christmas Eve, any big ticket fight Codeine Mar 2016 #17
Purim ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #21

Ex Lurker

(3,811 posts)
1. The night before Thanksgiving is said to be a big bar night
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:25 AM
Mar 2016

I've never been, but a lot of people have said that. 4th of July, basically any other summer holiday. Hell, people will use any excuse. If it's a holiday, somebody will be drinking.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
2. Yeah, it is.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:29 AM
Mar 2016

A lot of people get together with friends before they face their families, I guess.

I thought about the 4th, and you're right. Still, these are "holidays" created by liquor company marketing, for the most part, though, I am stretching that with New Year's Eve, so, yeah, I'll go with the 4th, too.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
7. It Was Always A Huge Night For Us
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:15 AM
Mar 2016

We were a club band and if you were good you could play that Wednesday every year, because the bar owners would raise cover from nothing or a buck or two, to 3 to 5 dollars and the places would all be crowded.

If you had a reputation as a band, the joint would be jammed. We got paid really well and the bar owners made a ton.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
18. Any night before getting together with my Republican family is a heavy drinking night.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

Just sayin.'

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
9. Many if not most controlled heavy drinkers, as opposed to alcoholics
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:56 AM
Mar 2016

Avoid the huge amateur hour drunkfests like St. Patrick's Day, or at least try to find a quiet place off the frat boy (including past and wannabe frat boy) path. We have the experience and the foresight to know that such crowds lack both, and that the cops know this better than anyone and patrol accordingly. Anyone who drinks in bars for the quality of beer and bonhomie knows both are at their nadir when the infrequent party crowds roll in. That's when the violence and abuse begins; hardly ever from those used to frequent drinking, absent addiction, but from those who are not accustomed to it and therefore both less aware of and less concerned with limits to their own tolerance for alcohol and others' tolerance for their alcohol-fueled misbehavior.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
16. Because I don't drink at home very much at all I always seem to neglect that others might
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

So yep that would quite likely be a good option for alcoholics too. Personally I like to drink beer and chat, not have half-poured likely-watered crap sloshed over my arm by screaming sardine-packed hordes, so I stay home 12/31 too, as I do on 3/17 and, in the last decade or so, Fri and Sat nights (not that I'm boozing every other day, but like as not on most). For all the cries of universal poverty I hear on DU I cannot find a bar selling decent draft beer, which usually means $5+ a pop, which is not jammed wall to wall with shrieking females and bigotry-spewing RWNJ males, and therefore intolerable, on weekends. I live in an area that hasn't seen a 1%er in living memory except driving by on the highway too, so somebody sure has the money to spend.

To see both bar/boozy restaurant and its patrons at their best, Tuesday evenings are how to judge them. Or Sunday afternoons outside football season.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
19. "Controlled Heavy Drinkers." I like that.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Better than "functioning alcoholic." I'm of Irish decent, but I don't give a rat's ass about St. Patrick's Day. It's a holiday for everyone to have an excuse to make off-color jokes about Irish people while drinking themselves silly. I didn't even have a beer yesterday. Didn't wear green.

Cinco de Mayo? I don't always drink Dos Equis, but when I do it sure as fuck isn't because of some Mexican holiday...more likely it's because that's all the Tex-Mex place had on tap.

Mardi Gras? I don't need to wait until Fat Tuesday to see some boobies and drink some beer. We're holding a big combination Mardi Gras/Brazilian Carnaval party to coincide with the Olympics. Melding of cultures to satisfy our own base instincts.

Ocktoberfest? Let's be honest...you get drunk because it's the only way an oompah band will ever sound good.

Now excuse me. It's Friday afternoon. A beer is calling.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
22. There really does need to be a word or phrase
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

Which describes people who drink a lot but do not fit the definition of alcoholic. Generally speaking we have let the combination of puritanism (itself ironic considering colonial per capita alcohol intake), the self-help industry and the infantilization of society define away what it really means. Even with all that, the technically correct definition excludes most heavy drinkers even though DU and most other poutrage-driven fora assume anyone drinking more than a beer at a time is one.

Here's what the Mayo has to say:

Alcohol use disorder (which includes a level that's sometimes called alcoholism) is a pattern of alcohol use that involves problems controlling your drinking, being preoccupied with alcohol, continuing to use alcohol even when it causes problems, having to drink more to get the same effect, or having withdrawal symptoms when you rapidly decrease or stop drinking.

Unhealthy alcohol use includes any alcohol use that puts your health or safety at risk or causes other alcohol-related problems. It also includes binge drinking — a pattern of drinking where a male consumes five or more drinks within two hours or a female downs at least four drinks within two hours. Binge drinking causes significant health and safety risks.

If your pattern of drinking results in repeated significant distress and problems functioning in your daily life, you likely have alcohol use disorder. It can range from mild to severe. However, even a mild disorder can escalate and lead to serious problems, so early treatment is important.


Now I know a fair amount of heavy drinkers. I'm one. I can only speak to some of those descriptors for myself, but others more broadly. I can't think of a single one of my personal acquaintance who has problems controlling their drinking, or seem obssessed by it. We all stop before becoming slobbering buffoons. Maybe every one of them but me has shocking DTs when they stop but I have no problems at all taking time off from the beer if I want to, and my consumption level is decreasing rather than increasing (plus I don't seek any "effect" at all and don't feel one very much either. I would dearly love it if beer without alcohol tasted better than unwashed socks, and would drink naught else if any did). Again I can't speak to their function or distress in daily life very well (being male, certainly not the latter) but since my general group includes two doctors, one pilot, one high ranking state EPA official, a couple of senior managers in business, one lawyer and one UPS depot manager all of middle age and happily married, with well above average intellect and clean records to my knowledge, we are hardly dissolute wrecks struggling with the problems of abusing booze.

I'm not scared of labels. I'm fat not big-boned and I'm a cripple not differently-abled. But those are accurate descriptors I am not shirking. I don't think alcoholic is. If it were I'd have no problem applying it to myself. Unhealthy alcohol use acciording to the above? Damn right. My health other than obesity is untouched to date for anything alcohol is particularly known to cause (although in my case it was more about the cripple part. Hard to lose weight when you cannot exercise), but I'm not in denial enough to pretend that blood sugar, liver function et al are just words that don't apply to me so of course the health risk is there. Binge drinker? Christ yes. Starting a 3rd tall beer at most sports bars even over three hours makes anyone one of those (although the origin and shifting definition of the term is hardly an empirical and objective paragon to say the least). I used to gladly call myself a lush but that has absorbed connotations of uncontrolled frequent drunkenness too, so not applicable any more. The last time I was noticeably drunk ws 2010 when I was drinking a nice porter labeled at 5.6% ABV that was really 9.8%.

Functioning alcoholic has an oxymoronic quality when alcoholic is used correctly. It would only be possible briefly. If you cannot control your drinking, are obssessed by it, and refuse to stop even when it damages your life as the term dictates, "functioning" in all but biological terms is not likely to long continue. I've been a heavy drinker for well over 30 years, as have all but one of my group who's the baby at 38. You'd think it would have caught up with us by now.

Wounded Bear

(58,599 posts)
15. Back when I was drinking, I only drank on....
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

weekdays, weekends and holidays. And only if I was alone or with somebody.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Christmas Eve, any big ticket fight
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

MMA or boxing, and Independence Day are all huge days for beer and spirits at my store.

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