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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is why we have to unite behind either Sanders or Clinton
After it is decided who will be the democrat candidate, we have to unite and ensure that Trump will not win. Otherwise, we will have 4 or 8 years of his supporters intimidating those that oppose him with threats like these:
Louise Mayerson told the paper she received the anonymous envelope in the mail after writing a letter that was published in the Globe earlier this month.
I have found some alarming rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that is apparently finding approval from large numbers of my fellow Americans, she wrote. With Trumps rather ambiguous response concerning his disavowal of the support of former Klansman David Duke, I have reached my breaking point
Just days later, she received the envelope containing a square white cross and red background, the symbol of Americas oldest and most violent hate group..
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/kkk-tries-to-silence-84-year-old-woman-who-fled-the-nazis-after-she-criticizes-trump/
revbones
(3,660 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)memory serves correctly. As long as Bernie sees a path, I'm sending him money.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)I hope Bernie stays in it for the long haul and gets the nomination!
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)hope someone gets prosecuted.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)How does Clinton beat Cruz or Kasich?
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)She beats either. The point of my whole post was that we keep the republicans out of the White House.
Preferably though, I hope Sanders soundly beats whoever the GOP candidate is.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)If you actually take the time to look at the polls, Hillary is consistently the weakest Democratic candidate in the GE. Fortunately, the same polls show that Trump is the weakest GOP candidate in the GE.
Polls consistently show that both parties are on track to nominate their weakest candidates:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Poll Date Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/11 - 3/6 47.3 41.0 Clinton +6.3
General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton
Poll Date Cruz (R) Clinton (D) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 3/6 46.2 45.4 Cruz +0.8
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sanders (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 3/6 50.8 40.8 Sanders +10.0
General Election: Cruz vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sanders (D) Cruz (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 2/27 50.0 40.3 Sanders +9.7
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Some of that goes back to this:
Both Trump and Clinton are running bandwagon campaigns, cult of personality that in some ways mirror each other. When either is put head to head against a campaign by someone with lower negatives and which actually lays out policy goals, they struggle.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)Do you really think they will support the proxy candidate?
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Cruz and Kasich can play to the racist sexist, fear thing. Trump has registered hundreds of thousands of voters that will likely never vote for HRC.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)They are equally as likely to burn down Cleveland
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)That Cleveland will burn come July 21, even if Trump gets the nomination. Trump supporters that probably do not fully understand primary rules will riot if there is any intimation of GOP shenanigans. They support Trump for the violence and he already has dog whistled his base telling them to riot.
calguy
(5,294 posts)If either of these two were to snatch away the nomination, Trump and his supporters would bolt or even maybe riot as Trump would say. They go into the election with a very fractured and pissed off party, either way.
Either way the GOP goes, they are so screwed.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)Trump thugs have all the mark of the fake health insurer fans going back to Harry and Louise
I would be willing to bet money that there is some PR firm organizing them.
Manipulating the country.
I do not see Trump actually wanting the Presidency.
To be honest with you I see Hillary as out-Republicaning Republicans.
Since I already know that Hillary turned a blind eye to fascist dictatorships abuse of union organizers and successfully blocked a raise in the minimum wage in Haiti. I am afraid a vote for her would not be in the country's best interests.
If life has taught me anything its to trust my intuition and not fall for various schemes to game my vote away.
pampango
(24,692 posts)might have been different. They did not unite. The rest is history. But at least they did not compromise their principles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)So I can't vote for Clinton. Sorry.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)You would prefer an apocalyptic theocrat or a sociopathic plutocrat verging on fascist?! Because let me tell you, even though I am a Bernie supporter, I would prefer the continuation of the status quo under Hillary over that. Please, rethink your stance. Even Sanders said he would support Clinton if he loses!!
basselope
(2,565 posts)Nothing has happened to change my mind.
I will likely vote the same way I voted in 2008 and 2012 with the Green Party.