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Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:37 AM Mar 2016

This is why we have to unite behind either Sanders or Clinton

After it is decided who will be the democrat candidate, we have to unite and ensure that Trump will not win. Otherwise, we will have 4 or 8 years of his supporters intimidating those that oppose him with threats like these:

. An 84-year-old woman who fled Austria as a child with her family to escape the Nazis was mailed a KKK symbol after openly criticizing GOP front-runner Donald Trump, according to the Boston Globe.

Louise Mayerson told the paper she received the anonymous envelope in the mail after writing a letter that was published in the Globe earlier this month.

“I have found some alarming rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that is apparently finding approval from large numbers of my fellow Americans,” she wrote. “With Trump’s rather ambiguous response concerning his disavowal of the support of former Klansman David Duke, I have reached my breaking point”

Just days later, she received the envelope containing a square white cross and red background, the symbol of America’s oldest and most violent hate group..



http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/kkk-tries-to-silence-84-year-old-woman-who-fled-the-nazis-after-she-criticizes-trump/
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This is why we have to unite behind either Sanders or Clinton (Original Post) Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 OP
Some will choose to live and vote based on fear. Not all will... nt revbones Mar 2016 #1
When Hillary was running against Barack, she stayed in the race until May or June, if my NCjack Mar 2016 #2
Oh, I agree. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #5
She gave him her delegates well before the convention. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #11
I'm glad she went to the authorities... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #3
What if Trump is not their nominee ?? GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #4
Hopefully... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #6
Not very easily I'm afraid... lagomorph777 Mar 2016 #7
yes. Clinton only does well against Trump, not the others GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #8
With a few million disenfranchised Trump supporters who are pissed off? world wide wally Mar 2016 #9
Don't you think some will turn out just to vote against HRC? GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #10
No, world wide wally Mar 2016 #12
I have no doubt in my mind... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #14
She beats Cruz or Kasich easily calguy Mar 2016 #17
Manipulation of the electorate is wearing thin with everybody. Baobab Mar 2016 #13
Indeed if the Social Democratic party, Communist party and others had united in 1932, German history pampango Mar 2016 #15
Thom Hartmann wrote a good article regarding that. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #16
I don't vote for Republicans. basselope Mar 2016 #18
Seriously... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #19
I NEVER planned on voting for her, even before Bernie announced. basselope Mar 2016 #20

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
2. When Hillary was running against Barack, she stayed in the race until May or June, if my
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

memory serves correctly. As long as Bernie sees a path, I'm sending him money.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
6. Hopefully...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

She beats either. The point of my whole post was that we keep the republicans out of the White House.

Preferably though, I hope Sanders soundly beats whoever the GOP candidate is.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. Not very easily I'm afraid...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

If you actually take the time to look at the polls, Hillary is consistently the weakest Democratic candidate in the GE. Fortunately, the same polls show that Trump is the weakest GOP candidate in the GE.

Polls consistently show that both parties are on track to nominate their weakest candidates:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Poll Date Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/11 - 3/6 47.3 41.0 Clinton +6.3

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton
Poll Date Cruz (R) Clinton (D) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 3/6 46.2 45.4 Cruz +0.8

General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sanders (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 3/6 50.8 40.8 Sanders +10.0

General Election: Cruz vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sanders (D) Cruz (R) Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 2/27 50.0 40.3 Sanders +9.7

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
8. yes. Clinton only does well against Trump, not the others
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

Some of that goes back to this:



Both Trump and Clinton are running bandwagon campaigns, cult of personality that in some ways mirror each other. When either is put head to head against a campaign by someone with lower negatives and which actually lays out policy goals, they struggle.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
9. With a few million disenfranchised Trump supporters who are pissed off?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

Do you really think they will support the proxy candidate?

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
10. Don't you think some will turn out just to vote against HRC?
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

Cruz and Kasich can play to the racist sexist, fear thing. Trump has registered hundreds of thousands of voters that will likely never vote for HRC.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
14. I have no doubt in my mind...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

That Cleveland will burn come July 21, even if Trump gets the nomination. Trump supporters that probably do not fully understand primary rules will riot if there is any intimation of GOP shenanigans. They support Trump for the violence and he already has dog whistled his base telling them to riot.

calguy

(5,294 posts)
17. She beats Cruz or Kasich easily
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

If either of these two were to snatch away the nomination, Trump and his supporters would bolt or even maybe riot as Trump would say. They go into the election with a very fractured and pissed off party, either way.

Either way the GOP goes, they are so screwed.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
13. Manipulation of the electorate is wearing thin with everybody.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:05 PM
Mar 2016

Trump thugs have all the mark of the fake health insurer fans going back to Harry and Louise

I would be willing to bet money that there is some PR firm organizing them.

Manipulating the country.

I do not see Trump actually wanting the Presidency.

To be honest with you I see Hillary as out-Republicaning Republicans.

Since I already know that Hillary turned a blind eye to fascist dictatorships abuse of union organizers and successfully blocked a raise in the minimum wage in Haiti. I am afraid a vote for her would not be in the country's best interests.

If life has taught me anything its to trust my intuition and not fall for various schemes to game my vote away.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
15. Indeed if the Social Democratic party, Communist party and others had united in 1932, German history
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

might have been different. They did not unite. The rest is history. But at least they did not compromise their principles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
19. Seriously...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

You would prefer an apocalyptic theocrat or a sociopathic plutocrat verging on fascist?! Because let me tell you, even though I am a Bernie supporter, I would prefer the continuation of the status quo under Hillary over that. Please, rethink your stance. Even Sanders said he would support Clinton if he loses!!

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
20. I NEVER planned on voting for her, even before Bernie announced.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing has happened to change my mind.

I will likely vote the same way I voted in 2008 and 2012 with the Green Party.

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