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Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner for the presidential nomination, met with The Washington Posts editorial board Monday to answer questions ranging from his views on NATO and the American criminal justice system to the violence that has been plaguing his rallies. We hoped that we would get to peel back some of the layers of Trump. In our meeting, when asked whether he thought there were racial disparities in how laws are enforced, Trump said he had no opinion. As time was running out, I wanted to press him a little more on if he plans to run on and/or govern on a message of racial inclusion.
ATTIAH: I think the some of the polls are saying youre doing([in the] negatives.
TRUMP: We do, if its illegals, in other words, if its everybody, but people that are legally living here, Im doing very well. In other words, people that are here, like Hispanics that are in the country, Im doing very well. People that vote. Like people leaving voting booths and all, Im doing very well with them. I want to be inclusive, but at the same time, people should come here legally, they should be here legally. And I think the reason Im doing, that I will do well, especially once I get started, dont forget I havent even focused on Hillary yet. And, and as you know, you know Ive had polls that are against me, but Ive had many polls that say Id beat Hillary, but theyre not that, that, they dont mean anything now because its too early. Because I havent hit her. Ive only hit her once, and that was eight weeks ago, but, I havent started on Hillary yet, and when I do I think Ill be able to make my points. I mean, you know, but, but I think that just to try and answer your question: Uh, I am the least racist person that you will ever meet. Okay. That I can tell you.
ATTIAH: But do you feel that your messages, your rhetoric, are dangerous and divisive for this country? How do you feel theyre . . .
TRUMP: I dont think so. No, I dont think so. With the Muslim thing I think its a serious problem. Ive had Muslims call and tell me youre right with the Muslim thing, I think its a serious problem. And its a problem that has to be addressed. I mean, theres tremendous hatred. Even the, even the guy they caught in Paris. He was being hid out by other Muslims, and everybody is after him, and hes living right next to where he grew up. Theres a serious, serious problem with the Muslims and its got to be addressed. Its temporary, and its got to be addressed. And you know you may think of it as negative, many people think its very positive.
As the meeting ended and we were walking out of the room, I thanked Trump for taking my question. He turned to me and said, I really hope I answered your question, and added casually with a smile, Beautiful. I was stunned. I didnt say thank you, and I dont think I smiled. He then walked out to meet with my Post colleagues briefly before heading to the elevator. I stayed in the conference room for a few minutes as it sunk in that the potential GOP nominee for president thought it was okay to comment on my appearance. Did he just say that?
Planning out how to question Trump in a way that was illuminating was like planning for asymmetrical warfare against an opponent who doesnt follow the same rules as you do. Who doesnt believe in rules. Who thinks that rules wont help make America great again. In Trumps world, commenting on a womans appearance in a professional setting is fair game, as is predicting riots if he doesnt get the nomination, threatening the speaker of the House, vowing to open up libel laws to go after unfair media, and helping to stoke the flames of violence at his rallies.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/i-asked-trump-a-policy-question-then-he-called-me-beautiful/
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/21/reporter-how-creepy-donald-trump-hit-on-me-today-tweet/
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)It's just part of his vocabulary.
The guy only says like 5 real words, beautiful is just below great.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)I'm not so sure he was hitting on her
Bucky
(53,984 posts)But the reporter didn't bother to explain how his delivery could be understood as hitting on her. I assume she used the words "hit on me" to get your attention. It's not good reporting. Not that commenting on someone's appearance is exactly appropriate. And I don't exactly begrudge anyone their right to launch baseless inflammatory slurs against Donald Trump. He lives in a world in which exaggerations and outright lies are fair game.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That embellishment seems to have been added by an unaffiliated headline writer.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)the man is CREEPY
Paladin
(28,246 posts)He has the morals of your neighborhood alley cat. Typical entitled rich boy.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Alley cats have a purpose, at least--to keep vermin to a minimum. tRump IS vermin!
I always said that because tRump has the morals of an alley cat, he should be treated like an alley cat--take him to the vet to get him neutered!
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Every alley cat I can recall encountering had far more restraint and class than Trump ever dreamed of having.
Arkansas Granny
(31,512 posts)affairs throughout the interview. Just the same old same old bragging about himself, blaming others for the violence at his rallies, blaming Rubio for making him comment on his hands (he spent a lot of time on that). It's frightening to think how many people believe that he would be a good choice for President.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/03/21/a-transcript-of-donald-trumps-meeting-with-the-washington-post-editorial-board/?tid=a_inl
tblue37
(65,269 posts)his sister would make a good SCOTUS justice, he defended her position on an aborrtion case:
Trump, exhibiting his own ignorance of the workings of the judiciary, botched his defense of his sister. "She's a brilliant judge," he said during the Houston debate last month. "He's [Cruz] been criticizing -- he's been criticizing my sister for signing a certain bill. You know who else signed that bill? Justice Samuel Alito, a very conservative member of the Supreme Court, with my sister, signed that bill. So I think that maybe we should get a little bit of an apology from Ted.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-sister-20160308-story.html
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)from a six year old.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It doesn't seem like he did from what is written here.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)To you his comment may seem benign but, to her, she took it as being hit on.
Either way, that isn't how one should conduct themselves in a professional environment (whether you are running for President or talking about ad sales).
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If there was something about the way he spoke to her or his physicality or anything of that nature which made her feel as if she was being hit on, she did not make mention of it in what she wrote here.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)That means something about the way he said "Beautiful" to her led her to believe he was hitting on her.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She does not use that phrase anywhere in this article.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)...
Perhaps he thought that calling me beautiful would make me ignore the fact that he brazenly lied about his polling numbers among Hispanic voters. Or make me believe that he wasnt really a racist. Who knows? At least now I know, firsthand, that the sexism that Trump puts on display against Megyn Kelly under the lights of national TV is not that much different from how he is in real life toward female journalists.
Here's another story on Jezebel that provides a Tweet from someone else in the meeting:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/donald-trump-sexually-harassed-a-washington-post-editor-1766197101
Vince Bzdek @Bzdekv
Oh my god, Trump told one of our editors that "she was very beautiful" DURING an editorial board meeting here.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just that she believed he commented on her appearance.
I guess it depends on what the definition of hitting on someone is.
eShirl
(18,487 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I have no doubt that Donald Trump and Bill Clinton have hit on a lot of women in inappropriate settings. It just does not seem like that is the case here.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I wish everything didn't have to be viewed through that prism around here these days.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The period and new one-word sentence indicates that you find my question to be beautiful.
The comma construction you used suggests that you are calling me beautiful.
The author of this story seems to indicate the former rather than the latter.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I see a comma there. You saw a period? The author of the story doesn't indicate what you are indicating.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If a direct quotation is interrupted mid-sentence, ones does not capitalize the second part of the quotation.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Whatever, I know you love endlessly parsing this shit. Enjoy. Nothing is ever bad in your world. Great to be a man, I guess.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Without capitalizing beautiful.
Edit to add: This is just a discussion board. I do enjoy discussing things like this with people. I hope there are no hard feelings.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)if referring to her as "my mother."
"On Capitalizing 'Mom' and 'Dad' and 'Great Aunt Betty' ":
http://grammartips.homestead.com/betty.html
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Maybe he did mean it that way. I just know that I have said "beautiful" in the way that I described above, i.e. not as a comment on a person's appearance. But maybe he was commenting on her appearance here. Obviously we are all going on incomplete information.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)She heard it in context and as an adult woman I'm betting she's had enough experience to recognize it for what it was.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)I was a model.
I was steel worker.
I have built freight cars.
I have been a tugboat cook with a crew of 7 men.
I have built decks.
He did not hit on her.
She sounds like someone looking for attention.
He did not say she was beautiful, he said the word beautiful.
Even if he did say she was beautiful, since when is that hitting
on someone ???
It makes me ill having to defend Trump.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Working in male-dominated jobs doesn't make you an expert on flirting and hitting on people. I'm old enough to be your little sister and have also worked in male-dominated environments (law enforcement, factories) as well as jobs where women were more equally represented. In my experience (anecdotal, just like yours) there was tolerance for comments like this when it was a male-dominated environment, but less so when there were many women in the ranks. Also less so as the novelty of women in certain workplaces wore off.
I can see how this written comment could be hitting on her or not, but I wasn't there and prefer to believe her than assume she's overly sensitive.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)I never said I was an expert.
It is your right to believe her.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)or overly sensitive or whatever other excuse to deny what she and at least one witness both agree was creepy and inappropriate.
Yes, I factored in that I didn't witness the exchange. You don't seem to have done the same.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)You are rude.
Do not reply to me anymore.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)If you think that I've been rude to you, hit that 'alert' button. If you don't want to engage posters who disagree with you, there's a tool for that too: 'ignore.'
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)oh well.
what a privilege not to notice.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)I am a 62 year old female.
Sam is my nickname.
greymouse
(872 posts)this is the equivalent of construction workers catcalling at women who walk by. It is unacceptable to make remarks like that in most contexts.
The people who think this is okay, ask your female relatives if they want random people commenting on their appearance. They will tell you it creeps them out.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)If he had said something like "You are beautiful" then that is clearly a comment on her appearance, but one can also say "beautiful" as if to mean, ok, great. As in, "Did I answer your question? Ok, great. Beautiful."
It really does not sound like he hit on her or even commented on her appearance.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)maybe you can all gather a group of like minded men to decide what does and doesn't constitute sexual harassment.
SamKnause
(13,089 posts)You are wrong.
Please read post #26.
Thank you.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)DU is male dominated and especially when the topic of sexism comes up, it's a pattern that males dominate the conversations to say it's not a problem, isn't happening or is something else.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't think anyone has made the claim that this was sexual harassment.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Whistling at a woman walking by is not a cat-call necessarily. Just a tune stick in their head, most likely. Billy Joel, I would guess...
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Misunderstandings are pretty common.
I remember a time that I was trying to pull out of a driveway and was looking intently to my left to make sure there were no cars coming and a woman who was walking along the sidewalk from that same direction apparently thought I was staring at her and yelled "take a picture, it'll last longer" as she passed my car - when I had not even noticed that she was there.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)meeting, though, so that suggests his comment as they were leaving was a reiteration of the earlier comment on her appearance.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I guess I was just trying to make the point that one can say "Beautiful" and not have it be a comment about the person's appearance, but in this case, maybe it was.
catbyte
(34,358 posts)example of how Trump doesn't see women as equals--or even human beings--we're eye candy, put here on earth for him and men like him to "rate," ogle, and remark about. It is despicable and, frankly, beyond creepy. It's pathological. Just like him saying he'd bang his daughter if she wasn't his daughter.
What a despicable POS.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And then everyone demands that he apologize or obsequiously acknowledge his egregious boundary-crossing of the lines of good decorum or political correctness or common decency, expecting that this time, he will because he HAS TO!
...and instead, he goes "eh. fuck you"
And, the crowd goes wild.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)was attractive?
Were Obama's Comments Sexist?: President Obama called the California attorney general "the best-looking attorney general in the country.
But of course Trump will get away with it, just as he ultimately gets away with insulting Fiorina's face, or with making comments--positive or negaative--about other high ranking or influential women. Always IOKIYAR, and now also IOKIYDT.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I mean, he's already seriously alienated Megyn Kelly and half of Fox News with her, and they're supposed to be his allies.