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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:42 PM Mar 2016

1 Polling Place for Every 108,000 Residents

Angry Arizona Voters Demand: Why Such Long Lines at Polling Sites?

PHOENIX — Cynthia Perez, a lawyer, stopped by a polling site on her way to work here on Tuesday, thinking she could vote early and get on with her day. She changed her mind when she found a line so long she could not see the end of it.

The line was just as big when she came back midafternoon — and bigger three hours later, after she had finally cast her ballot.

“To me,” said Ms. Perez, 31, “this is not what democracy is about.” . .

But beyond the electoral breakdown here, many observers saw Arizona as a flashing neon sign pointing toward potential problems nationally at a time that 16 states will have new voting restrictions in place for the first time in a presidential election. The presidential election will be the first since the Supreme Court dismantled a crucial section of the Voting Rights Act in 2013, freeing nine states, including Arizona and parts of seven others, to change their election laws without advance federal approval.

Wisconsin, which holds its primary elections April 5, is one of nine states with strict photo ID requirements. Thirty-three states have some form of voter ID. Kansas has enacted proof-of-citizenship requirements for all voter registration, a move that has disproportionately affected young voters and those attempting to register for the first time. North Carolina allows a registered voter to challenge the identity and eligibility of any voter casting a ballot in the same county.

On March 9, Gov. Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed a law that made it a felony to collect ballots for others in Arizona and bring them to the polls.

“It’s worrisome what the states are doing without these protections,” said Allegra Chapman, director of voting and elections for Common Cause, a watchdog group.

Arizona has a long history of discrimination against minorities, preventing American Indians from voting for much of its history because they were considered “wards of the nation,” imposing English literacy tests on prospective voters and printing English-only election materials even as the state’s Spanish-speaking population grew.

For 38 years, it had to seek federal approval for any changes to electoral rules and procedures, under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. If the provision were still in place, the Justice Department would probably have barred the closing of polling places that led to hours of waiting, chaos and frustration.

Democrats and other critics say many of the new restrictions reflect a strategy by Republican legislatures to suppress the votes of minorities and other Democratic voters. Republicans contend they are needed to prevent voter fraud. But Richard L. Hasen, an election law expert at the University of California, Irvine, said the end of federal oversight had opened the door to the chaos in Arizona.

“This doesn’t appear to have been caused by the intention to make it harder for anyone to vote, but by bureaucratic incompetence,” Mr. Hasen said. “Section 5 was very important in catching these screw-ups, a second pair of eyes that just aren’t there anymore.”' . .

“The fault goes to the entire Republican leadership,” Mr. Quezada said. “They have created a culture of placing less importance on elections, less importance on voting, and who have had no reservations to sacrifice democracy if it accomplishes their objectives.”'

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/25/us/angry-arizona-voters-demand-why-such-long-lines-at-polling-sites.html?

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1 Polling Place for Every 108,000 Residents (Original Post) elleng Mar 2016 OP
Thanks Ellen, that is exactly what is happening. This is a direct result of the SC whittling down still_one Mar 2016 #1
Yes it is, elleng Mar 2016 #2
Yes. It worked exactly as planned. n/t FourScore Mar 2016 #3
Yes, THIS is what it's all about: suppress the votes of minorities and other Democratic voters. LuckyLib Mar 2016 #4
K & R SoapBox Mar 2016 #5
And just think old............................ turbinetree Mar 2016 #6
Hillary And DWS Did Nothing To Oppose This billhicks76 Mar 2016 #7
Other than issue a statement (after the fact) what did BS do "to oppose this"? He's a sitting US... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #9
She Could've Spoken Up billhicks76 Mar 2016 #11
I'm not so sure who needs to be "reasoned with" right now. Again, I ask, as a sitting US Senator... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #12
She did. She was blasting voter suppression before Sanders was. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #15
Yes. Criminal! n/t Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #20
Yes, let's blame Hillary or Bernie, or hell...even President Obama maxrandb Mar 2016 #47
I wonder if anyone has issued apologies to the DNC, DWS & the Evil Hillary Clinton? Much... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #8
The persons deserving apologies democrank Mar 2016 #10
Yes. elleng Mar 2016 #13
They aren't the only ones. People who don't have the slightest idea how elections are actually.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #16
Arizona voeter suppression issues have been in the open for years now, both Hillary and Bernie Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #49
What democrank said. elleng Mar 2016 #14
Well, ellen, we know where you stand, but even you should be able to acknowledge Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #17
An epic failure. elleng Mar 2016 #18
Arizona has a history here. Gov. Brewer, when she was SoS, was the queen of voter suppression. pinboy3niner Mar 2016 #21
No surprise there. elleng Mar 2016 #23
Agreed. This would not have been allowed to happen if the VRA had not been gutted. nt pinboy3niner Mar 2016 #25
This Citizen Blames The Establishment Bent On Assisting Pre-Approved Candidates cantbeserious Mar 2016 #19
I'm shocked!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #22
Glad That One Is Amused cantbeserious Mar 2016 #24
You Must Be Joking billhicks76 Mar 2016 #65
So now it's about "a mountain of bad things", and not AZ? But just two days ago, you said that.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #66
You Heard Me Right billhicks76 Mar 2016 #67
"Thousands waiting in line didn't get to vote. 90% of them were Bernie supporters." Link please? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #68
None As Far As I Know billhicks76 Mar 2016 #69
Link? And it's not Hillary's fault that Independents were too stupid to figure out that they needed Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #70
That Untrue billhicks76 Mar 2016 #72
Still no link? You take care Bill. I have a feeling this process is not going to be kind to you. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #74
Do You Read? billhicks76 Mar 2016 #78
No Candidate In History billhicks76 Mar 2016 #79
YAY! Won't make a lick of difference, but YAY!!!!! And still no link. But YYYAAAYYYY!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #80
400,000 Traumatic Head Injuries In Iraq billhicks76 Mar 2016 #73
Why didn't 'this "lawyer" vote early? former9thward Mar 2016 #26
Did she KNOW she would become a 'victim?' elleng Mar 2016 #27
I really love it Aerows Mar 2016 #31
REALLY! elleng Mar 2016 #33
LOL Ellen, it takes all kinds Aerows Mar 2016 #35
Blaming voters instead of the responsible officials pinboy3niner Mar 2016 #34
Of course they do, elleng Mar 2016 #37
Personally I cannot believe Aerows Mar 2016 #41
I'm not bitter, I'm outraged, elleng Mar 2016 #44
I absolutely agree Aerows Mar 2016 #38
Choosing to stand in line to vote is now indicative of wanting to be a victim? LanternWaste Mar 2016 #48
All she had to do is mark one box. former9thward Mar 2016 #51
Such a Republican mindset. If we make it harder to vote on election day, who do we hurt more? mhatrw Mar 2016 #60
Why is marking a ballot at your kitchen table hard? former9thward Mar 2016 #61
Umm, because you don't have a kitchen? mhatrw Mar 2016 #62
So a lawyer (the OP) does not have a table or kitchen or address????? former9thward Mar 2016 #63
She was supposed to be able to vote on election day. Why are you so eager to deny her that right? mhatrw Mar 2016 #64
You keep asking this question. You have been answered. SalviaBlue Mar 2016 #71
She had her ballot mailed to her a month in advance. former9thward Mar 2016 #77
Voter suppression in the most heinous of ways. Aerows Mar 2016 #28
Yes, Aerows, a TREMDOUS joke, elleng Mar 2016 #29
I just have nieces, Aerows Mar 2016 #30
The way they have been administered elleng Mar 2016 #32
It's a feature not a bug. neverforget Mar 2016 #36
Yes, neverforget, elleng Mar 2016 #39
2012 = 300,000 voters at 200 polling places * 2016 = 800,000 voters at 60 polling places L. Coyote Mar 2016 #40
Yes. Thanks for the numbers, L. Coyote. elleng Mar 2016 #42
Except they are totally false. former9thward Mar 2016 #53
Except you are incorrect. See the stats. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #58
I did see the stats. former9thward Mar 2016 #59
Absolute Aerows Mar 2016 #43
No, there were not 800,000 voters at 60 polling places. former9thward Mar 2016 #52
Maricopa County Recorder’s Office serves over 1.9 million registered voters in 724 precincts. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #57
We have the worse voter turnout for any western nation Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #45
Yes, and this crap DIScourages voter turnout. elleng Mar 2016 #46
Republicans prevent voting in the targeted liberal populations. Let's say it as it is. L. Coyote Mar 2016 #50
No doubt about it. elleng Mar 2016 #56
If this held true in CA, everyone in Berkeley would be voting at City Hall! KamaAina Mar 2016 #54
Long tradition - linked story ties the history and tradition of voter intimidation in AZ & Renqust salin Mar 2016 #55
This should have 300 recs! Rex Mar 2016 #75
Some are, I think, working on or thinking about it. elleng Mar 2016 #76

still_one

(92,174 posts)
1. Thanks Ellen, that is exactly what is happening. This is a direct result of the SC whittling down
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

of the voters rights act.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. K & R
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

All the obstacles and roadblocks that are placed in front of Ameican's RIGHT to vote...

Well, it's just criminal.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. And just think old............................
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

Johnny Roberts and brother Kennedy made there first bit of history inn this state when the were writing briefs on how to block people the right to vote, for there U.S. Supreme Court bosses and the presidents relying on them to do that job right there in Arizona in the last 70;s and 80's, implementing the poll tax


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Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
9. Other than issue a statement (after the fact) what did BS do "to oppose this"? He's a sitting US...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

Senator....WTF did he do?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
11. She Could've Spoken Up
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:04 AM
Mar 2016

That's all he could do. It wasn't a statement. It was in a speech. But there is no reasoning with you. Hillary could be caught conspiring with the Bush family and you would find an excuse.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
12. I'm not so sure who needs to be "reasoned with" right now. Again, I ask, as a sitting US Senator...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:18 AM
Mar 2016

what legislation has BS introduced to counteract the decimation of the VRA? It's a simple question.

Were you this upset after BS' upset victory in MI? And if not...why not? Many areas that were favorable to Hillary ran out of ballots, including Flint.


Flint voters turned away at some polls after city runs out of ballots


By Steve Neavling
Motor City Muckraker

Government has failed Flint again.

If it wasn’t bad enough that thousands of residents were needlessly poisoned by contaminated water for 18 months, some of the city’s voters couldn’t even get a ballot in today’s Michigan primary election.

At least three precincts ran out of ballots today, forcing voters to either leave their phone numbers or wait until additional ballots arrived.

Some residents left without voting.

Mayor Karen Weaver’s office told NBC25, “The Mayor’s Office is aware that some precincts ran out of ballots today. While Mayor Weaver has no control over the conduct of elections, she is very concerned. We have been attempting to reach the Clerk to find out why it happened...................



http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2016/03/08/flint-voters-turned-away-at-some-polls-after-city-runs-out-of-ballots/

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
15. She did. She was blasting voter suppression before Sanders was.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:21 AM
Mar 2016

Where was his outrage when ballots ran out in Flint? It seems he only gets upset about voter suppression in states he loses.

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
47. Yes, let's blame Hillary or Bernie, or hell...even President Obama
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 07:10 AM
Mar 2016

the "effing" Democrats who sat out two mid-term elections and thousands of local races had absolutely no responsibility for turning over complete control of State and Local Governments to the fucking Tea-Bagger movement

I wish this "passion" for protecting voting rights had existed before the T-Bagging asshats took over without a fucking whimper!

I'll give you this...since all we can do now is "bitch and moan" about it...DU is doing a fucking stellar job of that.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
8. I wonder if anyone has issued apologies to the DNC, DWS & the Evil Hillary Clinton? Much...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

fire breathing, rancid conspiracy theories & pitchforks at the ready to crucify them all, just two days ago. <<<sigh>>>

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
16. They aren't the only ones. People who don't have the slightest idea how elections are actually....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

conducted were inciting rage against people who have absolutely no responsibility at all. That's why every state has it's own Sec of State.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
49. Arizona voeter suppression issues have been in the open for years now, both Hillary and Bernie
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:09 AM
Mar 2016

talked about it in Arizona. Poll closure has been particularly burdensome on the Native Americans in rural areas. There have been egregious instances of voter roll purges aimed at Native people. This did not start in March of 2015, the voters know this, both of our candidates know this and many interested parties know this.

An article from 2012:
How Native Voters Are Routinely Disenfranchised in Arizona

From voter ID laws to inaccessible polling stations, Native voters in Arizona face a cascading series of hurdles to participating in the November election.
http://www.colorlines.com/articles/how-native-voters-are-routinely-disenfranchised-arizona

In 2013 SCOTUS overturned one aspect of Arizona voter suppression laws:
Supreme Court Strikes Down Arizona Voter Suppression Law
http://www.thenation.com/article/supreme-court-strikes-down-arizona-voter-suppression-law/

This is an in depth paper called 'The History of Indian Voting Rights in Arizona: Overcoming Decades Of Voter Suppression'
http://arizonastatelawjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Ferguson_Final.pdf


So those who thought this was a surprise or a 'big fake' were obviously not informed nor paying attention prior to Tuesday, not to election events in Arizona and not even to what our two candidates have been saying.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
17. Well, ellen, we know where you stand, but even you should be able to acknowledge
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:25 AM
Mar 2016

that this was an epic failure of government, and had nothing to do with any specific candidate, or the party chair. But alas......

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. Arizona has a history here. Gov. Brewer, when she was SoS, was the queen of voter suppression.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:18 AM
Mar 2016

I remember Greg Palast going to Arizona and writing about it when SoS Brewer purged 100,000 registered voters from the rolls.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
23. No surprise there.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:32 AM
Mar 2016

As I said, I blame the system, and it was aggravated by the supreme's decision, badly.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
65. You Must Be Joking
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:09 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry but DWS and Clinton love this. And there is a mountain of bad things they have done without anything to do with AZ.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
66. So now it's about "a mountain of bad things", and not AZ? But just two days ago, you said that....
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary and DWS were .........Oh nevermind.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
67. You Heard Me Right
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

They are both sell outs. Yuuuuuge sell outs. It would take 10 pages to list the harmful things they have both done. And I'm PROUD to donate $$$ to Canova, Debbie's primary challenger. Who the hell limits debates and hands the media spotlight to Trump. It's a crime I say. As far as AZ goes the facts remain the same. Thousands waiting in line didn't get to vote. 90% of them were Bernie supporters. I do believe Clinton was aware and Bernie was caught off guard. Either way Clinton benefited most. All that matters is that Bernie wins as an opportunity to elect someone like him happens rarely. There will be many deceitful politicians like Hillary in the future. There will also be many better female candidates.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
68. "Thousands waiting in line didn't get to vote. 90% of them were Bernie supporters." Link please?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

It was Maricopa County where Hillary dominates with Latino voters, so I would love to see some solid proof of this assertion. BS is a politician, and there AIN'T nothing special about him. He's been on Capitol Hill for decades, and it hasn't made one iota of difference. You still never answered my question. The VRA was gutted 3 years ago. AZ & many other states no longer have to get pre-clearance from the Fed to change voting laws. What legislation did BS introduce to rectify this? And what happened with said legislation? Simple question. Enough with wild conspiracies and ad hominems.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
69. None As Far As I Know
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:47 PM
Mar 2016

But I bet he will be on it in the future. And Hillary was not even close when people in line were polled.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
70. Link? And it's not Hillary's fault that Independents were too stupid to figure out that they needed
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 09:56 PM
Mar 2016

to re-register as Democrats to participate in a "closed" primary. They clogged up the lines for hours, and weren't even registered. Why is that most of Hillary's voters knew about mail-in ballots, and the BS campaign couldn't figure that out? The bulk of Hillary's votes were banked well before election day.

Sounds like while BS was holding yyyyuuuuugggggeeeee rallies, the Voter Education arm of his campaign had their thumbs up their collectives asses.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
72. That Untrue
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

Many many people registered as far back as 2008 as democrats and their registrations weren't listed. I'm sure there were some independents too.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
74. Still no link? You take care Bill. I have a feeling this process is not going to be kind to you.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:10 AM
Mar 2016

You're making unsubstantiated allegations out the wahzoo, and all I asked for was a link. Not that I don't trust you. I mean, why wouldn't I?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
78. Do You Read?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:47 AM
Mar 2016

Countless people had their registration cards with them that said democrat but the computers said independent.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
73. 400,000 Traumatic Head Injuries In Iraq
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

That's a reason to vote against Hillary. Ruined lives just like mass incarceration. As far as campaign coordinating and strategy yes Hillary outperformed Bernie. And you're making a big mistake...most of those voters were registered democrats and the lines were because of limited poll stations not independents.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
26. Why didn't 'this "lawyer" vote early?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:57 AM
Mar 2016

The ballots were mailed out a month before. Did she want to become victim? So she could blog about it?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. I really love it
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:37 AM
Mar 2016

when the peanut gallery chimes in with an insult instead of a cogent comment on the original subject.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
34. Blaming voters instead of the responsible officials
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:46 AM
Mar 2016

Voters have a right to expect to be able to vote at a polling place fairly expedtiously, without having to wait in line for hours to vote or just to park their cars.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
37. Of course they do,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:51 AM
Mar 2016

we know that, but some, I guess, would rather blame voters, so insert junk posts into an otherwise informative thread.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
41. Personally I cannot believe
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:56 AM
Mar 2016

how big of a mess we have that people in *OUR* country have to put up with the shenanigans that have happened all across our country with respect to voting.

I hear our leaders condemn a country with rigged elections, and I'm just shy of bitter.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
38. I absolutely agree
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:51 AM
Mar 2016

it is voter suppression, otherwise.

Annoyed does not cover how PO-ed I am this primary season. How in the HELL do you run out of ballots? You have the registrar of voters and know damn many you need.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. Choosing to stand in line to vote is now indicative of wanting to be a victim?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:07 AM
Mar 2016

Choosing to stand in line to vote is now indicative of wanting to be a victim? Or is this simply another pretense of cleverness?

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
51. All she had to do is mark one box.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

It took me all of 30 seconds to do that and put it back in the addressed, postage paid envelope. Then putting in back in the mailbox. She was unable to do that HARD work. Right...

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
60. Such a Republican mindset. If we make it harder to vote on election day, who do we hurt more?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016

Regular people or rich people?

Democrats or Republicans?

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
63. So a lawyer (the OP) does not have a table or kitchen or address?????
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

What world do you live in? Not in mine, thank goodness.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
64. She was supposed to be able to vote on election day. Why are you so eager to deny her that right?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe you would like to deny tax refunds to anyone who files his or her taxes on April 15th next?

SalviaBlue

(2,916 posts)
71. You keep asking this question. You have been answered.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:00 PM
Mar 2016

It is not okay to blame the victim. Voting in person should not take hours. You seem to want to blame the victim. You sound like a republiCON.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. Voter suppression in the most heinous of ways.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:21 AM
Mar 2016

Bad, and at the most centrally located they had a bomb threat.

On top of it all, they ran out of ballots for Republicans at some precincts.

Our elections are a joke.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
29. Yes, Aerows, a TREMDOUS joke,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:29 AM
Mar 2016

and we'll be going down (FURTHER down) as time (and elections) go on.

Hold our hats. (and grandbabies.)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. I just have nieces,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:34 AM
Mar 2016

but I hold onto them just the same.

I said that they were a joke flippantly, but they really aren't. Our country is on the cusp of a real disaster if we don't have leadership that makes wise decisions.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
32. The way they have been administered
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:44 AM
Mar 2016

in 'recent' years, recent taken loosely, they ARE a joke, as you say; cusp of a real disaster.

REAL leadership is critical, and with the game playing, chances of that occurring are slim. HOW many years since the first 'effort' to clean up voting mechanisms???

elleng

(130,865 posts)
39. Yes, neverforget,
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:53 AM
Mar 2016

'a flashing neon sign pointing toward potential problems nationally at a time that 16 states will have new voting restrictions in place for the first time in a presidential election.'

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
40. 2012 = 300,000 voters at 200 polling places * 2016 = 800,000 voters at 60 polling places
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:55 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:46 PM - Edit history (1)

JOE DANA @JoeDanaReports
Consider: 2012 primary had 300,000 voters and 200 polling places. 2016 primary has estimated 800,000 voters at 60 polling places. #12News

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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
58. Except you are incorrect. See the stats.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:49 PM
Mar 2016

I'm not saying they are precise, I'm saying that someone sent a tweet. But, see the statistics and cite them instead of shooting a broadside and wasting my time, unless you just want to waste my time, we can do that all day.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
59. I did see the stats.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:31 PM
Mar 2016

You are using the state wide vote and saying they were all in those 60 polling places, when those were in just one county. You are also willfully ignoring the fact most of those voters did not even go to any of the polling places, they voted by mail, like me.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. Absolute
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:58 AM
Mar 2016

Horseshit. Excuse my language, but the only other description I could come up with was more foul.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
52. No, there were not 800,000 voters at 60 polling places.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

All your numbers are false. The 60 polling places were in ONE county, Maricopa. You are using state wide voter numbers. And most people voted by MAIL. They did not go to the polling place.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
57. Maricopa County Recorder’s Office serves over 1.9 million registered voters in 724 precincts.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:45 PM
Mar 2016

The rest of the counties have a few voters too, lots of Republicans, blue in Tucson though.

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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
45. We have the worse voter turnout for any western nation
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:18 AM
Mar 2016

Now imagine if we had good voter turnout

You would be in line for days.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
46. Yes, and this crap DIScourages voter turnout.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:22 AM
Mar 2016

What will AZ voters do, at the General? "Why the heck should I bother???"

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
50. Republicans prevent voting in the targeted liberal populations. Let's say it as it is.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

Talking points need to be "politically correct" these days.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
75. This should have 300 recs!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

Sigh...somebody want to step up and prosecute them for breaking the law?

elleng

(130,865 posts)
76. Some are, I think, working on or thinking about it.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately many of the benefits of the Voting Rights Act were 'disappeared.'

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