Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:34 AM
Liberal_in_LA (44,397 posts)
Germany rail company introduces women/children only train cars
The Mitteldeutsche Regiobahn rail company says the segregated train cars are designed to make women traveling alone or with small children feel safe, according to Europe Online Magazine.
The carriages will be in service between Leipzig and Chemnitz, and boys up to the age of 10 will be allowed to ride. Each train will have two women-only compartments "deliberately" located at the center of the train and close to the customer service compartment, MRB added. On New Year’s Eve, police in Cologne received hundreds of reports of sexual assaults and robberies, sparking international uproar. Several witnesses described the assaults as being committed by men of "Arab or North African origin,” bolstering anti-refugee sentiments in Europe as the region struggles to cope with an influx of migrants. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/28/german-rail-service-to-roll-out-women-only-train-cars-amid-fears-over-migrant-assaults.html
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Liberal_in_LA | Mar 2016 | OP |
Person 2713 | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
Warpy | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
pnwmom | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
DetlefK | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
Warpy | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
Person 2713 | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
Warpy | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
840high | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
Lucky Luciano | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
a la izquierda | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
Recursion | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
1939 | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
MisterP | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
athena | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
Avalon Sparks | Mar 2016 | #15 |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:52 AM
Person 2713 (3,263 posts)
1. I would not mind cars like that on Amtrak in the US
My mother was always laughing at guys bothering me and trying to hit up on me while traveling until some old geezer was bothering her and giving her unwanted attention and just would not stop trying . Then she stopped thinking it was funny
Would be nice to have those cars here |
Response to Person 2713 (Reply #1)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:29 AM
Warpy (105,784 posts)
3. Multiply that by 100 in areas with a lot of new immigrants from northern Africa, especially.
What they need to do is get those new refugee men into classes to teach them how to behave around western women, that just because a woman is wearing shorts on a hot day doesn't mean she's a whore and fair game. If they don't get through to them, there will be bloodshed as women start to arm themselves any way they can.
Then again, a lot of western men are no bargain when they're out in public, either. |
Response to Warpy (Reply #3)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:46 AM
pnwmom (107,339 posts)
4. I agree that classes -- on this and similar topics -- would be an excellent idea.
For example, people shouldn't move here thinking that they can get their daughters sexually mutilated or that they can force them into child marriages.
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Response to Warpy (Reply #3)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:51 AM
DetlefK (16,319 posts)
6. You know what those arab/north-african teenage refugees do all day?
They hang out in the malls, in groups of 5-10, leering at girls and women that walk by. And they feel like big men when those girls and women get uncomfortable being leered at.
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Response to DetlefK (Reply #6)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:04 PM
Warpy (105,784 posts)
11. You just described most adolescent males, planetwide
and most of those never grow out of it.
Back when there was work for them, it wasn't quite as miserable for women and girls. |
Response to Warpy (Reply #3)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:51 AM
Person 2713 (3,263 posts)
9. I don't wear short skirts and I am not buying a fucking gun
Wow
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Response to Person 2713 (Reply #9)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:07 PM
Warpy (105,784 posts)
12. Same here
My favorite weapon as a woman alone in Boston was a 4 inch hat pin I found in an antique shop. A quick jab from that thing and the most determined asshole would let go and leave.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:58 AM
840high (17,196 posts)
2. Shame this has to be done.
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:59 AM
Lucky Luciano (10,995 posts)
5. Japan does this on commuter trains be because there are a lot of creeps. nt
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:19 AM
a la izquierda (11,641 posts)
7. This is common...
On the Mexico City metro. I take it daily when I'm there (usually 2-3 months a year). I will ride the men's' car if I'm with a friend.
Odd story, I was riding to the historic center of Mexico City last summer, during rush hour. Not one of my finer decisions. I got on the men's' car with my best friend (a man). We're both fluent in Spanish and from major metro areas (me from NYC area, he from Montreal). The car was positively packed and we missed our stop. I was getting anxious about the crowds...not about the men, per se, though I was in a skirt. We started chatting with folks, in Spanish, saying "yeah, we spend lots of time here, from major cities, blah blah blah." An older guy shouted "this young lady needs to get off at the next stop, let's let her out!" No groping, no sexual comments. I did almost have a panic attack though. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:22 AM
Recursion (56,527 posts)
8. Japan and India both do this
If it's becoming a problem for women on the train, I'm glad the trains take notice.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:07 AM
1939 (1,683 posts)
10. What is needed is
transit police with nightsticks handing out "wood shampoos" as needed.
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:06 AM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
13. DU loves these (unless it's Haredi doing it)
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:04 AM
athena (4,187 posts)
14. It's sad that women can't be comfortable elsewhere.
This is a sad and dangerous trend. Pretty soon, any woman who is harassed will be blamed for not sitting in the segregated car. Any woman who is not in a female-only car will be seen as fair game.
If the Germans really cared about women's concerns, they would work to make the entire train a comfortable environment for women, not just a single car. They would educate men about treating women with respect, rather than tell women to limit their freedom of movement. This is like telling women that they shouldn't go out alone late at night. The fact that Japan does it should have raised red flags immediately. |
Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:21 AM
Avalon Sparks (2,463 posts)
15. Shame...
I've always felt very safe in Germany riding the trains. In Munich and also Chemnitz and Leipzig, evan late at night. I haven't visited in over two years so I guess things have really changed.
I spent a week in Cologne three years ago and felt perfectly safe wondering around...so sad. |