Fuck Donald Trump

[BainsBane]

I initially posted this in the wrong forum. Apologies.


Fuck Donald Trump

Fuck Susan Sarandon and fuck anyone else who shills for Trump. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/29/susan-sarandon-trump-might-be-better-for-america-than-hillary-clinton.html

Trump has phone banks staffed by the Aryan Nation. That is who Sarandon and others who promote this view stand with.

He also gives Suzie a sizable tax cut, which with her many millions earned shilling for Loreal and its record of hideous labor violations and making workers sick from carcinogens exposes what a flaming hypocrite she is.

[beam me up scottie]

1. .

[hrmjustin]

2. And i still agree with you 100%

The Bernie or bust movement is despicable just like the pumas was.

[BainsBane]

3. Arguing for Trump is worse

way worse than regular Bernie or Bust, which I agree is despicable, but what Sarandon said is worse.

[hrmjustin]

5. And sad to see DUers defending her.

[revbones]

26. Which statement was false or worse than "despicable"? nt

[MynameisBlarney]

8. It truly is, innit?

Like I've said on different forums...I wonder if the vast majority of PUMA's were actually Hillary supporters. Seems like they were all just trying to sow chaos.
Same for the bernie or bust people.

Most I see over at RS are not regulars, and they all have shiny new accounts.

[hrmjustin]

10. Most of these bernie or bust types on this site are green party voters or

operatives from another party looking to cause trouble. Irl i have never met a Bernie or Bust person.

[MynameisBlarney]

14. I hear ya.

I met one this weekend.
I think I talked him out of it, but who knows.
There was alcohol involved.

[awoke_in_2003]

38. +1000. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. As the saying goes...

I wouldn't fuck him with your ****. I do disagree with Susan Sarandon on her particular point, but she's just another celebrity with an opinion. Which, like another thing, everybody has one of.

[BainsBane]

7. Yes, unfortunately

a certain campaign has put her forward as a spokeswoman. I hope that they will distance themselves from her and her comments because they are not in keeping with the interests of the Democratic party or the voters it represents.

[leftofcool]

6. Trump is vile and Susan is just another shitty actress.

[KamaAina]

9. Susan is not shilling for Trump.

Here's what she actually said, sensationalist headline to the contrary:

“some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately if he gets in,”

Does that imply that she is one of them? Nope.

[BainsBane]

11. When she argues that Trump is better than Clinton

She shills for him. Period.

This is a Democratic discussion board. It is not a board for people who stand with mltui-millionaire Hollywood celebrities over the rights of ordinary Americans. I am sick of having rich people lecture to me about how inconsequential my rights are and that what is really important is the shit they shovel. She's a hypocrite and an idiot. Anyone who prefers Trump and his Aryan Nation brigade to the Democratic Party is my enemy.

She earns millions from Loreal and its horrendous record of labor exploitation. She rakes in millions and now insists the "revolution" will be served by installing a far right wing racist in office. She doesn't want a real revolution. She wouldn't fare well at all under one. Her luxury home would be taken away and she would be put to work doing actual labor. What she wants is to undermine the rights of American voters, whom she clearly has contempt for. That she seeks to promote white male supremacy is made clear by the fact that she now promotes Trump over Democrats. I loathe her and anyone who adopts a similar viewpoint. They are what they stand with, which is hatred and white male supremacy. We had a hint at that when she endorsed Sanders. She could have simply said I'm excited about him because of x, y, and z, but that wasn't sufficient. She had to insult women in the process by calling any woman who dared to vote exclusively for men as "vagina voters." Then she came at a civil rights activist, Dolores Huerta, with her mindless internet memes. She clearly thinks her wealth entitles her to own the rest of us. Well I'm not owned by her or anyone else. Americans vote for who we please, and her contempt for our rights, both voting rights and equal rights (evidenced by her advocating for Trump over Clinton) show exactly what she is. She is a self-entitled narcissist determined to punish the non-white male majority for daring to vote in their own interests rather than hers.

[KamaAina]

12. Where does she argue that Trump is better than Clinton?

I'm not from Missouri, but show me anyway.

[pintobean]

16. Her rants are hilarious.

They're full of bs.

[KamaAina]

17. Susan's or the poster's?

[pintobean]

19. The OP.

Her claims about Sarandon are ridiculous.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

27. I heard the interview, Hayes pressed her on it and she clearly said she

was not sure what she would do when asked about voting for Trump or Clinton.

There is no question that is what she said.

Someone here must have the full audio or video.

here ya go

http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/extended-interview-with-susan-sarandon-653901891895

I didnt hear it when it happened live, but I did hear the excerpt and sure sounded to me like she was saying she wasnt sure how she would vote if it were Trump vs Clinton.

I like her, still do, but that is what she said.

[KamaAina]

31. No way she would ever vote for Trump

Jill Stein, maybe, but not Trump. That must have been what she meant.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

32. No, please listen to it. I didnt want to believe it either.

[LonePirate]

35. You have to connect the dots.

Nobody would dispute that she is an informed voter so she is obviously aware of the differences between Bernie and Hillary and the Republicans. She obviously knows Trump is a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, violent simpleton who would be bad for America in every possible way. As bas as W was for the country, Trump would be immeasurably worse. Despite knowing this about Trump and being deeply knowledgeable of Hillary, she still hedged when given a choice between Trump and Hillary. That suggests she feels Trump is better than Hillary in some regard otherwise she would not have needed to hedge.

The same thing happens all the time on DU when Bernie or Bust people refuse to support the Dem nominee in November if it is Hillary. With Sarandon, we now have a well-known public face of a liberal/progressive voter who irrationally, even if just slightly, prefers a candidate (Trump) who is antithetical to much of Bernie's agenda instead of preferring the candidate (Hillary) who is much closer in ideology and vision to Bernie.

[pampango]

30. Right. Arguing that Trump is so bad that the resulting chaos would lead to a revolution is not

the same as endorsing him. Unless one assumes Sarandon wants chaos and revolution.

[Person 2713]

36. The "revolution " ?? The nationalist right revolution?? Wtf is Ttump ? a righteous revolution now?

[KamaAina]

37. I think she may be confusing revolution with rebellion.

I myself just learned the difference, from Grace Lee Boggs' autobiography.

[BlueStater]

13. Vote Hillary! She sucks less than Trump!

It will be really easy to spot me at a polling station this November. I'll be the guy wearing a clothespin the size of Jupiter.

[BainsBane]

15. I'd probably need a gas mask if I had to vote for Bernie

and handfuls of anti-nausea medication. Thankfully, I won't be forced to do so.

[BlueStater]

20. Don't worry. Looks like you'll get your shitty, corporate candidate.

Happy day.

[BainsBane]

21. Not the "corporate candidate"

who voted for civil immunity for gun corporations. That one trails significantly in the popular vote and delegate count.

There is no anti-corporate candidate. That's a campaign slogan that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. What is unfortunate is some voters have decided to take campaign rhetoric as fact, not only not bothering to check it out but repeatedly dismissing evidence that shows it to be false. For example:
http://time.com/4261350/bernie-sanders-super-pac-alaska-millenials/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/sanders-record-filings-show-benefits-from-super-pacs-links-to-wall-street-donors-1455300881

[deutsey]

34. All is right with the world

Emphasis on "right"

[KamaAina]

18. "Trump has phone banks staffed by the Aryan Nation."

Linky? That would be news indeed!

edit: That would be YUGE!

[BainsBane]

23. It was on CNN, a news report

They showed tatted out white supremacists manning his phone banks.

Interesting how much more concerned you are about evidence for statements about Trump than Clinton. It was in conjunction with a piece about David Duke endorsing him.

It's not huge because it's completely expected, entirely in keeping with his racist rhetoric. It was huge enough to make cable TV news, however.

You know full well that the racism is key to his appeal. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous.


ETA: The link I found was from PBS. Might have been PBS or both CNN and PBS. Regardless, it was far from an obscure source.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pbs-newshour-white-power-tattoos-trump

[KamaAina]

25. Ah yes. I do remember the woman with the giant "88" tattoo on the phone.

I thought you meant a whole phone bank staffed with members of the actual Aryan Nation.

[BainsBane]

29. Google it

There were more examples besides the link I provided.

[KamaAina]

33. This would be worthy of an OP.

Go for it!

[BainsBane]

24. It took all of five seconds to google

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pbs-newshour-white-power-tattoos-trump

[seabeyond]

22. Charles Blow.... as long as you can insulate yourself from the Republican voted in.

I was listening to his video as I was reading this. I have been off most of the net for four days. Just really seeing the issue hear.

This is indicative of Sanders and what he represents and this is his supporter.

It says so much, and exactly what we have been discussing for months. And Clooney's comment, the adults in the room. My overall feel there is a collective tantrum happening here.

[bluestateguy]

28. she needs to check her privilege

indeed.

[Cha]

39. Righteous Rant, BB!

Thank you.