MSNBC is worthless. They interviewed 5 prez candidates & all

[jillan]

They care about is what Donald Trump said about abortions. Yes it was despicable what he said. But there are issues that are going on in the country and in the world that need to be solved. How could they not discuss that???

I only caught the end of Hillary and the entire Bernie interview and Rachel didn't even ask any questions about issues. It was more about here's your chance to bash the Republicans.


Our fourth estate is in a sad shape.

[global1]

1. Bernie Basically Said To Rachel That The Media....

spends an inordinate amount of time on the outrageous things that Trump says and don't spend the time on the issues. Then right after Rachel ends his interview they go back to talking about Trump.

[CentralMass]

2. +1

[jillan]

3. He called her out on it and it went right over her head.

If somebody would've told me that Rachael would turn into this person I would never have believed it.

[sense]

6. Freakin'

disappointing.

[hedda_foil]

7. He did and now they're spinning it that he doesn't think the abortion issue is important.

Hillary, of course, thinks it's very important.

[jillan]

10. I am livid.

[hopemountain]

24. rachel maddow is throwing herself under the bus for hillary

disgusting and dispicable. she did this 3 times tonight.

also, chuckie t. is reinforcing the meme that the sanders campaign spokespeople/surrogates are not on the same page as bernie because chuckie has noticed there are descrepancies - especially recently, when a surrogate will make a statement and bernie is not aware of the statement. i guess bernie is supposed to be a fascist like the rest of the candidates with everyone marching in lockstep and following some script in the sky.

rachel also hammered on bernie about donating some of the money his supporters donate to the dnc to support other congressional candidates. that was infuriating - because, as rachel pointedly stated, afterall, hillary is out raising money for her campaign and for the dnc. what a joke! it is all for hillary and dws' agenda.

rachel is hideous.

[rufus dog]

36. You learn a lot about a person when money is involved

Most people have a price. I would have guessed she did the until this year. Very disappointing.

[Arugula Latte]

37. She is an absolutely shameless Hillary shill.

It is really sickening.

I can't believe how much my regard to her has shriveled to nothing.

She's like the Howard Dean of the media.

[hopemountain]

38. yes, interesting how one HUGE deception

shines a light on all of her other lies, manipulations and persona. i tuned in to hear bernie and rachel was so phony. she must have thanked him 5 or 6 times. i guess she thought that would ingratiate her to him and that he would not see past her ulterior motive: to demean senator sanders.

[zeemike]

12. That's because you don't understand the power of money.

Once you get in bed with it it owns you.

[chervilant]

16. I'm so glad I don't own a television.

I would hate to have witnessed Rachel's journey to the dark side.

[raindaddy]

17. Rachael opted for the money!

Disappointing.. I watch Amy Goodman and Ana Kasparian of TYT... Can't watch Rachael anymore...

[Chakab]

27. It didn't go over her head. She's way too smart not to understand

what's going on.

She's playing this game to keep her job and the seven figure pay check.

[AnAzulTexas]

31. I need a 7 figure paycheck

anyone in the market for a soul

[Uncle Joe]

29. It didn't go over Rachel's or any of the other corporate media conglomerate pundit's head,

they know exactly what they're doing, the standard M.O. of using mass manipulation against the American People.

Did per chance any of them bring up the mass voter suppression that took place in Arizona?

[Samantha]

34. I don't think it went over her head -- I think she deliberately chose to ignore it

After all, what could she say....

She really used to seem to like him, but I don't see that now. She definitely has been a Clinton supporter. Perhaps her job requires that. I don't know the reason but it certainly is disappointing that she has not at least been even handed.

Sam

[jillan]

40. Ya - it was a really weird interview, all she wanted to do was to talk about Trump.

[karynnj]

61. or she did get it and her negativity towards Bernie was the result

I think I finally get what people speaking of other candidates meant when lack of support from the media was attributed to them not pandering to the media. In Bernie's case, he goes further, he is not just not pandering, he is calling them to task.

It is pretty obvious that Rachel is more impressed by Clinton and on a personal level seems to like her. That a viewer can easily see this would be bad if she were a journalist, but in reality, all the people with these shows are not journalists as much as TV personalities.

As such, she is smart, entertaining, creative and charming .. and when there is not a primary with multiple left sides, she is dependably a strong, articulate voice for our side.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

45. Rachel took that as a slap in the face lol At the end, they acted like they were expecting a

Pulitzer for their night: they got Trump to say "punish women" and Bernie to attack media, rebuke his staff, and repeat his SD strategy.

[karynnj]

60. True and the way you stated it makes me understand her weird conversation with Chuck Todd

afterwards. She stated and he agreed that Bernie's comment on the media spending too much time on outrageous things said by Trump ignored that a woman's right to choose is a core issue in the campaign. She then said it was clear that HRC thought it an important issue.

In fact, Sanders and Clinton were very similar in saying the comments were outrageous. There was no disagreement. What Sanders said did not mean the issue of a woman's right to choose is not important - he has consistently unambiguously said that he wanted no new infringements on a women's right to choose. It is not that ISSUE that he thinks unimportant it is making what TRUMP SAYS the major news item of the day.

I think their comments - saying this is not important to Bernie - might reflect that he was calling out Rachel for her making that a question to ask him and Clinton - not on their positions on choice, but on Trump. It also suggests that part of the media appearing not to really like him might be that he not only does not pander to them, but he calls them to task.

[global1]

64. I Agree - He Was Calling Out How They Fawn Over Trump...

his comment was not about the abortion issue. However, the MSM is playing the Hillary soundbite where she disses Bernie. MSNBC must have played her comment 3 times in the last two hours.

Her campaign jumped on this opportunity to attack Bernie (and this is an attack) and MSNBC is going along with it. This is really disingenuous.

[DesertFlower]

4. so did CNN.

[baldguy]

5. I wish to hell, that for at least ONE DAY

the news media would give the GOP the attention it deserves - which is none.

[jalan48]

8. It's sad to see Rachel become such a toady for the corporate media.

She's a smart woman who knows the issues and yet spends her time on hype.

[Pharaoh]

11. shes getting paid the big bucks

she's famous and likely that alone has it perks. Would she give all that up for just being honest?

Doubt it.

[Fuddnik]

9. I cut the cable last week.

No more paying good money to have Faux or MSHRC piped into my house.

I do have access to CNN through my Roku, but I'll never go there.

[PFunk1]

53. I still have cable but it's for entertanment shows only

Never for news since whats on now isn't worth watching-and I long since included MSNBC on that list.

[HawkMode]

13. Look

They're(MSM) creating the general election narrative. The narrative is going to be wedge issues. They're setting Trump up as the GOP nominee and Hillary is going to represent women's rights. That's whats going to decide this election i'm afraid. Substance is not Hillary's strong suit because she's got sooooooo much baggage, but throw a misogynist candidate and a female candidate and wallah!!

More representation for Wall Street. Main Street loses.....

The only candidate who seems to be benefiting from Trump so much is Hillary. Funny how they are friends. It's also funny how he donated to her 2008 campaign. Funny how he became a raging birther as soon as Hillary lost the primary. Almost as if this is scripted.

Just an observation...

[jillan]

19. Yes, it is hard not to wonder if he started out to help Hillary but now I think the power went to

his head.

Welcome to DU

[hopemountain]

28. then hillary will for sure loose to donald

voters -except for women and those who love us - are not that big on women's issues. they are not priorites. the economy, jobs, & immigration & foreign policy/war are what people are responding to. sorry, hillary. whomever advised her to be a one trick pony (women's rights) is narrow minded. she was better off with a foreign policy platform.

[Nyan]

42. They might hope it goes that way. But wedge issue's not gonna cut it this time around.

People are pretty pissed off. She's not gonna be able to muster enough support from young women.
They want women to get excited for her? Well, this woman's not excited.

[Ccarmona]

14. The Fourth Estste,

The Media is for-profit. The Independent media is out there, just not in the mainstream. The uninformed (i.e. The majority) don't care as long as their little sphere isn't messed with.
This Country is getting the government it deserves

[PatrynXX]

15. Yeah Donald is Pro Choice and Pro Planned Parenthood

to the tune of Millions donated. now he's anti choice naturally who believes him. I'm not even sure certain Christians I know do. since Ted Cruz has been hammering away at donald for being pro choice. could take a nap on MSNBC. Sunday hardly exists there

[Cheese Sandwich]

18. 90% of the Bernie questions were about horse race and process.

Are you going to raise money for the DSCC? Are you worried about superdelegates? Nothing about health insurance. Nothing about war and peace? Terrorism? Climate Change. MSNBC is useless.

[Rex]

20. The M$M is worthless, it entertains a certain crowd.

Yes their golden boy is...blech...Trump. To think the M$M would further push for the downfall of America. For money and ratings.

[kadaholo]

21. OUR REGISTRATIONS WERE HIJACKED IN PENNSYLVANIA

This is UNBELIEVABLE! After reading an article at Anonymous on the antics in Arizona, I noticed a comment attached to the article that stated there are widespread reports of voter registration manipulation in PA and NY.

See article: Anonymous Investigate Arizona Election Fraud, “Sanders Was Hacked”
Link: http://www.anonews.co/anonymous-sanders-hack/

Since I live in PA and am a Bernie supporter, I decided to confirm my registration immediately.

I checked the VotesPA website and, sure enough, voter registration information on both my husband and me is not available!!! We have been registered Democrats and voting at this location since 1987 and 1994 respectively.

This is the message that came up for both of us: "No Voter Registration information could be found for the data provided. Either search again using different data or contact your County Voter Registration Office."

Calling tomorrow and surprise (not), we are Bernie supporters!!! INCREDIBLE!!! Just coincidence in state after state???? I think not!!!

Seems like those two lapses in the firewall (both reported by the Sanders Campaign) are benefitting only one of our two Democratic candidates...

HIGHEST PRIORITY!!! PLEASE TELL EVERYONE WHO IS STILL WAITING TO VOTE IN PRIMARIES TO CHECK THEIR REGISTRATION...ESPECIALLY FRIENDS IN NY AND PA!!!

Pretty sure MSNBC won't cover this story either!!!

[jillan]

25. Have you seen this? 191 Million US Voter Registration Records Leaked In Mystery Database

Why would you see it, it's not like msm would report on it....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/12/28/us-voter-database-leak/#3938d1511bb9

[kadaholo]

32. GREAT LINK!

Great link, Jillan! Absolutely amazing!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

[BainsBane]

22. Turn off the TV

Who even cares? No one watches MSNBC anyway.

That said, Trump's comments about abortion are enormously important. Voters need to know that the GOP's leading candidate proposes making being a woman illegal.

The most annoying thing is that you all continually complain about cable television yet continue to generate ratings for them and contribute to their profits. It isn't news. It has never been news. It's fucking entertainment. Not a one of those people with prime times shows has ever been a journalist. Just turn the damned thing off and leave it off.

[BainsBane]

44. Yes, but that wasn't cable

was it? That was when they were journalists, and when the American public didn't feel that any news story that didn't validate their political views was unacceptable. Things have gone downhill since then.

[hedda_foil]

47. I don't think the news was any better back in the day.

Everything put out by government or big business was presented seriously in authoritative tones ... the horrors of the eeevul commies, the domino theory, the wonders of science. The wonderfulness of our public officials. The big three networks virtually never mentioned anything about US foreign policy or what was happening in other countries unless it could be fit tightly into the eeevul commies narrative. Never, ever did they mention the CIA role in coups and assassinations to replace democratically elected foreign leaders and governments with autocratic dictators.

We were all more accepting and innocent about authorities and experts which, imo,is the main reason we look back on the news of the post-war era as if it were more legitimate than now. It's not them, it's us.

[shadowmayor]

23. The Fawning Corporate Media

It's now commonly called the Media rather than News. Wonder why? These assholes are in the entertainment business, not the news delivery business. It's all propaganda, all of it. When was the last time we were shown a story about the complete clusterfuck that is Fukushima? And Japan is going to host another Olympic games? How in the hell is that even possible? What's going on in Yemen? Why our ardent support for the Saudis? Why were so many Americans led to believe that the Surge in Iraq was successful when it led to the creation of ISIS or al qaeda 3.0? What's life like for the average Libyan today? It's all manufactured consent and we as a nation wouldn't recognize nor understand actual news reporting as most of us have been force-fed nonsense all of our lives. The popular narrative that Reagan was a great and popular president is a most glaring example of today's Newspeak. Without a complicit Media, Trump and Cruz wouldn't even go out in public, let alone hold positions of power.

And on a brighter note - check out the article about McDonald's experiment with raising wages. Happier workers, less turnover, customer satisfaction rose and profits actually went up. Wanna bet that this story gets the usual short shrift?

[hedda_foil]

48. Wow! I missed that. Do you have a link?

[shadowmayor]

57. McDonald's Wage-Hike Experiment Pays Off For All

Article by Noah Smith. Searched and found it in the Hartford Courant -

http://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-wire-smith-companies-raising-minimum-wage-0320-20160318-story.html

I think I came across it on anther site? Alternet, Common Dreams, Truthout, Truthdig, Counterpunch, Rawstory etc. Should have marked it but I was in full surfin' and scannin' mode.

Thanks for paying attention!

[hedda_foil]

62. Thank you!

[Yallow]

26. Bernie Did A Great Job Calling Them (The MSM) Out On Ignoring Everything Important

Of course Rachel completely ignored what he said, and asked her scripted questions passed down to her from Comcast.

Welcome to our "newsspeak" world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

[Beaverhausen]

30. I guess punishing women for abortion isn't so bad to you

Sorry but it is important to millions of Americans and it should be discussed.

[xloadiex]

39. I'm sure we'll hear about what tRump said for the next week

24 hours a day until he says or does his next asshole stunt. There were a million other things they could have asked Bernie about besides Trump but that wouldn't have been a big spin story for them. I don't give a flying fuck what that idiot tRump says.

[SunSeeker]

43. +1

[jillan]

49. Why would you even say that?

That is such a horrible thing to say I can't even believe that comment was posted here.
There are other issues going on in the world besides the latest asinine comment made by Donald Trump.
Liberals used to be the party that could walk and chew gum at the same time when I read comments like this it makes me wonder if that's still true.

[arcane1]

55. It's just a lame smear, aided and abetted by Trump.

What else can they do?

[jillan]

58. And created by Rachel Maddow

[arcane1]

59. Exactly. If you don't obsess over everything Trump says, you hate women.

What a disappointment, seeing alleged "progressives" lowering themselves to Trump's level.

[Beaverhausen]

65. Stuff like this is why

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1397838

For Bernie to call it just a stupid comment is, well, ignorant at the very least.

[AngryOldDem]

41. All the media are worthless.

Except to their corporate masters.

They don't serve us anymore.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

46. If it bleeds it leads and Trump started bleeding last night.

Tweety must have a real tingle today.

[oldandhappy]

52. Believe you. Stopped watching a month ago.

Understand from DU posts that the ratings are UP!! Oh well, I always am on the wrong page, smile.

Am discovering alternatives -- Amy and JackPine and TYT and, giggle, Star Trek reruns. Get half an hour of BBC which gives me the international flavor which I like.

Not to be annoying, but am sitting here watching the head bash against the brick wall and wondering where 'fourth estate' came from. What are numbers 1, 2 & 3? Is not 'estate' about money? Hmmm May have to entertainment myself with a little looking around on that.

Anyway, thanks for the post and totally agree.

[oldandhappy]

54. Wikipedia

Wikipedia has nice short explanation for all my above questions.

[malokvale77]

56. That was painful to watch.

Her breathless telling of running out into the street to get Hillary's opinion of what Bernie said. Never mind that she lied about what he said.

I wonder if Maddow has the self awareness to see the pathetic parody she has become.

[davidn3600]

63. The media can't help themselves

They love Trump. They can't get enough of him. He's a goldmine for ratings. He can turn the presidential race into a reality show the media wants every 4 years.

[Deadshot]

66. I quit watching MSNBC when they cut out of a Bernie Sanders speech to listen to Trump.

A couple of weeks ago.