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What Good Are Hedge Funds?
Hedge funds make big returns by manipulating markets in ways that are illegal for small investors. Remind us: Why are they permitted?
David Dayen
April 25, 2016
In the pilot episode of the Showtime drama Billions, a CNBC host grills Bobby Axelrod (Damian Lewis), founder of the hedge fund Axe Capital, at a public forum. How do you respond to the criticism that hedge funds are the scavengers of the financial sector, and that a select few have undue influence on the markets?
Were not scavengers, Axelrod replies. Were white blood cells scrubbing out bad companies, earning for our investors, preventing bubbles. A hedge fund like mine is a market regulator.
This claim invites an important debate: Do hedge funds represent an asset to the larger economy, or a menace? Do they really help make markets more efficient and transparent, or do they just exploit opportunities at the expense of other investors?
There are roughly 11,000 such fundsinvestment vehicles that control a mix of client dollars and borrowed money, with a corporate structure that exempts them from most investment-company regulations. We know that hedge funds have made a small subset of financial titans fabulously wealthy. The top hedge fund executives make a billion dollars a year or more. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are fond of saying on the campaign trail that the top 25 hedge fund managers earn more than all of Americas kindergarten teachers combined. But does this orgy of wealth create value, or merely extract value, at the expense of workers, companies, and other investors? ..............(more)
http://prospect.org/article/what-good-are-hedge-funds
Autumn
(45,064 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)We'll see if the Obama daughters marry hedge fund managers.
Autumn
(45,064 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)They do seem to marry well, don't they?I bet a certain one's business is doing especially well these days.
dawg
(10,624 posts)for redistributing wealth from dumb rich people to smart rich people.
They could also be useful, under the right circumstances, in securing returns that aren't particularly correlated with those of the underlying stock market.
On the balance, it's a good thing that most of us aren't allowed to invest in them.
nemo137
(3,297 posts)And I think the accredited/qualified investor limits probably need to be raised.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Pension managers get swayed by the Wall Street razzle-dazzle, and the next thing you know, workers (and sometimes taxpayers) get stuck with an underperforming pension plan replete with excessive fees and returns that lag their benchmarks.
nemo137
(3,297 posts)Like, I'm probably both less and more finance-skeptical than your median DU'er, but this is 100% correct.
procon
(15,805 posts)What a pretentious snob. He's not some caped superhero, he's no different than a gambler who goes to Wall Street instead of Vegas. States levy taxes and make regulations with stiff penalties to control gambling, but if you call yourself a hedge fund manager instead of a high roller, you get a seal of state-approval that allows the participants the freedom to make risky bets without being held to government oversight.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Investing implies you expect a company to grow because of the return on the selling of products or services. This is why we hear the "investor takes all the risk". It isn't true due to legislation, but that's for another discussion.
Hedge funds are hoping businesses fail.
Hedge fund managers bad talk companies and cause problems where there are none resulting in losses for others and making it more difficult for a company to succeed.
The stock market itself is nothing more than gambling. Buying low and selling high the same stocks over and over again isn't investing, it's betting a person will get lucky and buy it low and watch it go higher instead of lower and also making enough to pay the transaction fees.
200 day moving averages? 52 wk highs and lows? What do those have to do with the company's strategic growth plan? 10K or Q filings? inventory stock piles? decreasing or increasing demand for a product or service?
melm00se
(4,991 posts)just contrarian investors on steroids?
librechik
(30,674 posts)not even counting derivatives