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Mon May 9, 2016, 05:18 PM

Oh wise and Omnipotent DU, tell me, what's up with Brazil?

Impeachment is off. Should I care? Is this good? Bad? The Olympics? Do the people want to see her ousted or do they want her to stay?

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Reply Oh wise and Omnipotent DU, tell me, what's up with Brazil? (Original post)
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 OP
clarice May 2016 #1
truebluegreen May 2016 #2
AgingAmerican May 2016 #4
malaise May 2016 #6
AgingAmerican May 2016 #7
malaise May 2016 #9
AgingAmerican May 2016 #10
malaise May 2016 #11
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #12
malaise May 2016 #15
Katashi_itto May 2016 #17
roody May 2016 #24
PufPuf23 May 2016 #3
jberryhill May 2016 #26
malaise May 2016 #5
Meldread May 2016 #8
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #13
roody May 2016 #14
Brother Buzz May 2016 #23
Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #16
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #18
maryellen99 May 2016 #19
FrodosPet May 2016 #20
maryellen99 May 2016 #21
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #22
jberryhill May 2016 #27
moondust May 2016 #25
ghostsinthemachine May 2016 #28

Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 05:42 PM

1. To tell you the truth... i just don't care.....maybe they will finally....

 

stop the lean toward Socialism. Doesn't work....Never will.

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Response to clarice (Reply #1)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:22 PM

2. The lean toward socialism

 

Works just fine in Scandanavia and other civilized nations. How is capitalism working for all the folks here? I suppose you will say, "Exceptionally."

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Response to clarice (Reply #1)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:33 PM

4. Socialism in Brazil?

 

Have you ever been to Brazil? I have. It is far from socialist.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #4)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:09 PM

6. It is also racist to the core n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:15 PM

7. Yep that was very apparent

 

The Favelas were almost 100% black. Even our 'liberal' tour guide wouldn't admit it was racial when I asked why everyone in the Favelas were black and the rest of Rio was either mulatto or Portuguese.

There were no public hospital, just walled, gated private ones. Same with colleges.

Socialist my ass...

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #7)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:20 PM

9. Neo-liberalism on steroids

Same old BS with slogans

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:25 PM

10. From one Favela we overlooked a very rich area with skyscrapers and lakes, beaches

 

The tour guide was explaining one of the high rises was a single apartment per floor, costing millions per residence. I asked her what the difference was between the people living in the rich areas and those in the slums. She said one word: College

I asked her how hard is it for a poor person to go to college in Brazil. She stated it is almost impossible because it is so expensive.

College is the difference between living in a slum or living in a high rise/nice neighborhood.

College should be a RIGHT everywhere.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #10)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:36 PM

11. It's a fugging mess

Check out today's Panama Papers release - lots of rich Latin Americans are hiding money that used to be part of taxes to improve healthcare, education and infrastructure.

The corrupt thieves are everywhere - and they are only exposed when they don't defer to the interests of the global rich and their political tools - and of course the bosses at the multi-lateral agencies.

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Tue May 10, 2016, 09:41 AM

12. I'm glad that never happens here!

(Eye roll sarcasm thingie)

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Reply #12)

Tue May 10, 2016, 10:00 AM

15. Hehehehehhe

Indeed

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Response to clarice (Reply #1)

Tue May 10, 2016, 10:35 AM

17. Meth is a terrible drug.

 

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Response to clarice (Reply #1)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:15 PM

24. I believe you are on the wrong website.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 06:26 PM

3. I am uncertain but watch Latin America faithfully.

I am against the impeachment and support social democracies in general, in specific Latin America.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #3)

Fri May 13, 2016, 12:57 AM

26. FIFA and the IOC aren't democracies

 

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:08 PM

5. You should care - what went down was unconstitutional

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/09/brazil-dilma-rousseff-impeachment-vote-annulled
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Brazil’s political tumult has descended into farce after a little-known and newly appointed lower house speaker proclaimed the annulment of last month’s impeachment vote against Dilma Rousseff.

The surprise move – which was immediately challenged by senior figures in the senate – provided an absurd twist in the country’s ongoing political drama that would stretch the credibility of a House of Cards plot.

Just days before the senate was expected to adopt the motion and suspend the president, Waldir Maranhão – who took over as acting speaker last week – appeared to have thrown Rousseff a lifeline by saying the vote needed to be rerun due to procedural flaws.

The Workers’ party leader was crushed in a boisterous and sometimes bizarre lower house impeachment
vote on 17 April when more than two-thirds of deputies agreed that she should be removed from office for whitewashing government accounts with money borrowed from state banks ahead of her 2014 re-election campaign.

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The word is bizzare - it was a parliamentary coup that has nothing to do with the Constitution.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:16 PM

8. Yes, you should care.

1. The group in power are more-or-less liberals. It should be our objective to ensure that liberal governments are put in power in every nation on the face of the Earth. Therefore, the potential downfall of one is bad.

2. The particular party in question is/was corrupt as fuck. Unfortunately, it was more-or-less the status quo for Brazil across the board. Our position should be to encourage Brazil to put forward very strong anti-corruption laws. It could be used as an opportunity to clean things up, while hopefully allowing them to save face and remain in power. I know the far right--especially the religious right--are excited about all of this and are hoping to make gains.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 09:44 AM

13. What is their income? Control of natural resources?

Do they make anything? Relationships with neighbors?

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Reply #13)

Tue May 10, 2016, 09:58 AM

14. My Volkswagen was made in Brasil.

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Response to roody (Reply #14)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:30 PM

23. Mostly, the made a lot of components for VW

My VW was not assembled in Brazil, but I noticed "Made in Brazil" stamped and embossed on a lot of the parts.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Tue May 10, 2016, 10:11 AM

16. The same thing that's up with most countries the world over:

Corruption.

Should you care? Maybe.

Is it good? Probably not.

Bad? Very likely, but only marginally worse than if she actually had been impeached.

The Olympics? Bad news for Brazil.

What do the people want? Almost 90% of the Brazilian public wants her gone.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:50 AM

18. New news. Impeachment to proceed

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Thu May 12, 2016, 11:56 AM

19. What was the IOC thinking when they picked Rio?

It's going to be a disaster. They should pull their bid.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #19)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:03 PM

20. Other than killer mosquitos, killer water, killer crime, and widespread corruption...

...what is wrong with having the Olympics in Rio?

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Response to FrodosPet (Reply #20)

Thu May 12, 2016, 12:27 PM

21. They do have a city that they can use if they have to pull a bid-Los Angeles.

I remember how giddy the stupid Teabaggers/Foxbots were when Rio was awarded the bid and not Chicago because they thought it was a slap in the face to President Obama.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #21)

Thu May 12, 2016, 02:12 PM

22. Yep, only place that could pull it off

The Olympics are gonna be weird from here on out. Can't postpone them, they have to happen then. Rio is gonna be horrible if they stage them there.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #19)

Fri May 13, 2016, 01:00 AM

27. They were thinking "there's enough money in that suitcase...

 

...for a shitload of hookers and blow."

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2016, 12:45 AM

25. I don't know but...

France24 has reported that there are no women in the new cabinet but there are some guys from old political dynasties. As such, I'm inclined to believe Dilma that it's a coup.

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Response to moondust (Reply #25)

Fri May 13, 2016, 10:23 AM

28. Yep, the plunderers are in charge

Goodbye Brazil. Goodbye natural resources, hello Rich people getting richer. Same as it ever was.

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