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Sancho

(9,067 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:04 PM Jun 2016

FLORIDA A.G. CEASED INVESTIGATING TRUMP UNIVERSITY AFTER TRUMP DONATED TO HER

http://theintellectualist.co/florida-a-g-ceased-investigating-trump-university-after-trump-donated-to-her/

Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi briefly considered joining with Schneiderman in a multi-state suit against Trump University. Three days after Bondi's spokeswoman was quoted in local media reports as saying the office was reviewing the New York lawsuit, the Donald J. Trump Foundation made a $25,000 contribution to a political fundraising committee supporting Bondi's re-election campaign. Bondi, a Republican, soon dropped her investigation, citing insufficient grounds to proceed.


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FLORIDA A.G. CEASED INVESTIGATING TRUMP UNIVERSITY AFTER TRUMP DONATED TO HER (Original Post) Sancho Jun 2016 OP
Bread ... check. lpbk2713 Jun 2016 #1
All the Gulf state AGs at least threatened to come after BP until they were bought off and shut Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #22
And people wonder why Bernie supporters are concerned about the MILLIONS in INCOME think Jun 2016 #2
So Trump is ok compared to Hillary? Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #4
Neither is "ok" in the context of this very valid concern. FighttheFuture Jun 2016 #6
Hell no. Nor is what occurred between Trump and the AG in Florida. think Jun 2016 #9
Stop bashing Democrats and go after Trump Democat Jun 2016 #7
Mine will be much better if I hit this ignore button. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #13
Please do Democat Jun 2016 #27
What if I detest them both? Fuddnik Jun 2016 #33
WE GET IT, YOU HATE HILLARY Skittles Jun 2016 #53
Trump sucks worse but that doesn't mean we should ignore reality.... think Jun 2016 #24
This is a thread about Trump crimes Democat Jun 2016 #28
If Trump is guilty he should be charged. One shouldn't be allowed to what he did even if he can get think Jun 2016 #32
Hillary has not changed her positions because of donations, unlike Bondi. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #8
Hillary opposes Glass Steagall and hasn't called out Wall Street fraud. Instead she took their think Jun 2016 #11
Hillary supports Dodd Frank and going after shadow bankers, which Bernie is clueless about. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #14
5 'too big to fail' banks are violating Dodd-Frank rules think Jun 2016 #16
You do realize that Bernie is in the Senate and could bring up WhiteTara Jun 2016 #35
Bernie has been addressing the larger issue of too big to fail banks for a long time. think Jun 2016 #37
And you're also using the "half truth smear about the CFMA. Good grief you all are so full of it. think Jun 2016 #18
Why are you changing the subject of this thread? You do realize you're helping Trump, right? SunSeeker Jun 2016 #26
Oh God...does no one get tired of TrumpTrumpTrump libdem4life Jun 2016 #42
If you don't want to hear about Trump, why did you click on this thread? SunSeeker Jun 2016 #43
I guess for the same reason he's got 24/7 coverage on the News. libdem4life Jun 2016 #51
Dodd-Frank.. sendero Jun 2016 #56
Dodd Frank is the law Sanders cites as giving him the authority to "break up the banks." SunSeeker Jun 2016 #57
"So, here are some hard, cold truths about Bernie Sanders" Sancho Jun 2016 #12
Got any evidence that Hillary was ever bribed or are you just talking shit? yardwork Jun 2016 #38
Soft corruption is legal. And that's probably why Trump probably won't be indicted. think Jun 2016 #39
Sadly.. yes and Trump has the receipts. basselope Jun 2016 #41
More deflection posts ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #44
I'm against the legalized soft corruption that occurs in govt. Are you? think Jun 2016 #45
Keep deflecting ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #46
Where did I deflect? I am not against them trying to prosecute Trump. I think even if a quid pro quo think Jun 2016 #47
The thread is for those who wish to discuss FLA and Donald Trump ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #48
And where is the evidence Hillary has ever made a corrupt decision on banks? n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #54
Our Texas a g did the exact same thing. elehhhhna Jun 2016 #3
Special Prosecutor needed on this one. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #5
Indeed. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #10
Red state leaders encourage criminal activity among their own staff and peers. Rex Jun 2016 #15
Let's not jump to conclusions, my fellow evil DUers Jack Rabbit Jun 2016 #17
Nice. hughee99 Jun 2016 #19
I like to say that anyone who does't have a little bit of the Devil in him . . . Jack Rabbit Jun 2016 #20
Besides, she's blonde, beautiful and Republican. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #21
It appears to me timdog44 Jun 2016 #23
Paid to look the other way. UCmeNdc Jun 2016 #25
Trump supporters out in force on this thread defending him Democat Jun 2016 #29
Doesn't surprise me at all. Pam Bondi is as crooked as Rick Scott davidn3600 Jun 2016 #30
I think Rachel has talked about her and her shadiness before. Chicago1980 Jun 2016 #31
Well, it's worked for bank$ter/jihadists these past 8 years, no reason why he couldn't jtuck004 Jun 2016 #34
Freedom isn't free IronLionZion Jun 2016 #36
Wait... Wait... Matt_R Jun 2016 #40
Politicians taking money from wealthy interests is bad today? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #49
just right in your face barbtries Jun 2016 #50
Just like in Texas with AG Greg Abbott, now Gov. Abbott. nt Ilsa Jun 2016 #52
Typical dirty republican rockfordfile Jun 2016 #55

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
22. All the Gulf state AGs at least threatened to come after BP until they were bought off and shut
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:44 PM
Jun 2016

their corrupt pie holes. Pam Bondi didn't have to and she knew it.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. And people wonder why Bernie supporters are concerned about the MILLIONS in INCOME
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary has taken from mega banks and corporations that spend billions lobbying our govt. That's cold hard cash in her pocket not just campaign donations.

It's a very legitimate concern and it dwarfs the $25,000 donation Trump made in this case.


Democat

(11,617 posts)
28. This is a thread about Trump crimes
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

Bashing Clinton here serves no purpose other than to minimize Trump's crimes.

You are doing the work of Trump supporters.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
32. If Trump is guilty he should be charged. One shouldn't be allowed to what he did even if he can get
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jun 2016

away with it which is most likely because soft corruption is legal and hard corruption would be hard to prove.

This isn't breaking news and there is no investigation unfortunately:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/opinion/os-pam-bondi-donald-trump-scott-maxwell-20160402-column.html

Sucks doesn't it.....

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
8. Hillary has not changed her positions because of donations, unlike Bondi.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jun 2016

Sounds like you have watched too many of Bernie's ads attacking Hillary.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
11. Hillary opposes Glass Steagall and hasn't called out Wall Street fraud. Instead she took their
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jun 2016

money.


Hillary, the Banksters Committed ‘Fraud,’ Not ‘Shenanigans’

By William K. Black
Prof; Econ & Law, UMKC. Financial regulator. White-collar criminologist. Founding member, Bank Whistleblowers United. Author: The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One. - 02/04/2016 11:55 pm ET | Updated Feb 05, 2016


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in her debate with Senator Sanders minutes ago, said that she went to Wall Street and told them to stop their “shenanigans.” The context was that she was being asked to respond to the complaint that she was too close to on Wall Street billionaires. She had every incentive, therefore, to demonstrate how tough she would be on Wall Street.

In that context, the best she could muster was the pusillanimous “shenanigans.” Here is a typical definition of that word with examples.

1. : a devious trick used especially for an underhand purpose
2. 2a : tricky or questionable practices or conduct —usually used in pluralb : high-spirited or mischievous activity —usually used in plural

Examples of SHENANIGAN
1. students engaging in youthful shenanigans on the last day of school
2. an act of vandalism that went way beyond the usual shenanigans at summer camp



Hillary cannot bring herself to use the “f” word in the context of Wall Street CEOs leading the largest and most destructive fraud epidemics in history - frauds that made them spectacularly wealthy. A few minutes later, Bernie said that “fraud” was Wall Street’s business model.

Read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/hillary-the-banksters-com_b_9164930.html

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
14. Hillary supports Dodd Frank and going after shadow bankers, which Bernie is clueless about.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:10 PM
Jun 2016

It was Bernie who voted to deregulated derivatives, which is what really brought down the economy.


Why are you shitting on a thread pointing out Trump's obvious quid pro quo with Bondi and turning it into another GDP Hillary attack thread, when Hillary has nothing to do with this story?

You are only helping Trump by changing the subject to attack Hillary.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
16. 5 'too big to fail' banks are violating Dodd-Frank rules
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016
http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/13/investing/dodd-frank-banks-living-wills/

And I showed that Hillary is siding with these corrupt banks and you chose to ignore it.

Trump sucks and the $25,000 donation looks bad but like Hillary go ahead and prove that there's a quid quo pro.

I believe there was a quid pro quo but the GOP will use the same "prove it" crap Hillary supporters use.

Speaking of looking like a quid pro quo here's a great one by Hlllary and Bill. But hahaha you can't PROVE anything..:


Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons

CONOR FRIEDERSDORF JUL 31, 2015

The Wall Street Journal’s eyebrow-raising story of how the presidential candidate and her husband accepted cash from UBS without any regard for the appearance of impropriety that it created.

~Snip~

The article adds that “there is no evidence of any link between Mrs. Clinton’s involvement in the case and the bank’s donations to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, or its hiring of Mr. Clinton.” Maybe it’s all a mere coincidence, and when UBS agreed to pay Bill Clinton $1.5 million the relevant decision-maker wasn’t even aware of the vast sum his wife may have saved the bank or the power that she will potentially wield after the 2016 presidential election.

But even that wouldn’t make accepting the $1.5 million excusable.

If you’re Bill Clinton and your wife has recently intervened, in her capacity as a cabinet secretary, to help a giant corporation avert a significant threat to its bottom-line, the very least you could do, if only to avoid the appearance of impropriety, is to avoid negotiating seven-figure paydays with that same corporation. This is particularly jaw-dropping because ultra-wealthy Bill Clinton has virtually unlimited opportunities to give lucrative speeches to any number of audiences not directly implicated by decisions that his wife made as secretary of state.

Read more:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

WhiteTara

(29,703 posts)
35. You do realize that Bernie is in the Senate and could bring up
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

legislation. However, he hasn't and now he's "too busy campaigning" to do anything else.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
37. Bernie has been addressing the larger issue of too big to fail banks for a long time.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-files-bill-to-break-up-big-banks

Anyone who's ever heard of Bernie Sanders knows this.

Hillary just take their millions and tells the to "cut it out"....
 

think

(11,641 posts)
18. And you're also using the "half truth smear about the CFMA. Good grief you all are so full of it.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016
The Most Disingenuous Attack on Bernie Yet

Wednesday, 20 January 2016 00:00
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program | Op-Ed


~Snip~

The CFMA had been shoved into an omnibus spending bill at the last minute as part of a deal between Republicans and President Bill Clinton, and because this was a time when, you know, Congress actually did its job, Sanders bit the bullet and voted for the whole package - CFMA included - to keep the government open.

Only four members of Congress ended up opposing the final spending bill that included the CFMA, and one of them was Ron Paul, who opposed pretty much every spending bill. But that's just of the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how dishonest Clinton was being when she called Bernie out for voting for the CFMA.

Even if Bernie had a good reason to vote for that omnibus spending bill - like preventing a government shutdown - Sanders was angry that he been forced into deregulating Wall Street.

~Snip~

During his time at the Treasury, Gensler had pushed hard for Wall Street deregulation and even helped write the CFMA, something now-Senator Bernie Sanders found unacceptable. And so Bernie moved to block Gensler's nomination. Sanders explained his actions during an appearance on Democracy Now.

Although Sanders did succeed in blocking Gensler's nomination, the victory was short-lived: The hold was only temporary, and the Senate ended up approving Gensler as head of the CFTC on March 16, 2009. He held that post until 2014, when he was succeeded by Timothy Massad.

So what's Gary Gensler - the guy who promoted the CFMA - up to today? Oh, you know, nothing big. He's just the chief financial officer of the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Yep, that's right, the CFO of the Hillary Clinton Campaign!

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/34497-the-most-disingenuous-attack-on-bernie-yet

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
26. Why are you changing the subject of this thread? You do realize you're helping Trump, right?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders lost. He is 838 delegates away from securing the nomination. Hillary is only 70 delegates away. If she doesn't clinch it this weekend in the Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands, then it will certainly happen by 8 pm EST this Tuesday, when New Jersey is called for Hillary, 3 hours before the polls close in California. That is reality. Given reality, we need to move on and unify against Trump. Training your hate on Hillary instead of Trump only helps Trump.





 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
42. Oh God...does no one get tired of TrumpTrumpTrump
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

If we had the right nominee, the above would not be a problem. Trump as a "fear" is an HRC creation. Trump and the Republicans WANT to run against her.

The Rs got the memo,all the way up to poor Paul Ryan, that the base was sick of the status quo Establishment. It's going to be much more painful, it seems, for the Ds.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
51. I guess for the same reason he's got 24/7 coverage on the News.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jun 2016

It is a fascinating study in political science/sociology. And even more so from a Democratic viewpoint...I really didn't mean to pick on you at that moment. Sorry.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
56. Dodd-Frank..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jun 2016

...is a joke of a band aid but surely you know that. A bunch of micro-managing rules and paperwork that will be ineffective in place of simply REINSTATING GLASS-STEGALL that would immediately force the banks to stop gambling with the public's money.

Is what Trump did "soft corruption"? Of course it is. And the FAILURE of our legislature to deal with the banksters is soft corruption on a scale Trump could only dream of, so excuse me if my poutrage meter doesn't even move for this one.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
57. Dodd Frank is the law Sanders cites as giving him the authority to "break up the banks."
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

And he is right about that, at least with regard to banks whose financial position poses a threat to the economy. Dodd Frank is a powerful law that does more than Glass-Stegall.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
12. "So, here are some hard, cold truths about Bernie Sanders"
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:07 PM
Jun 2016
https://www.quora.com/What-dirt-is-there-on-Bernie-Sanders

After being elected to Congress, Sanders voted in lock-step with the Democratic Party the vast majority of the time, taking campaign funds from the Democrats and even $10,000 from Hillary Clinton’s HillPAC. The notion Sanders is just some outsider who refuses to play ball or take “tainted” money is pure fiction. He takes such money when he wants or needs it. Moreover, his complaints or criticisms of certain funding sources, corporations, and/or ties between government and the corporate world tend to grow silent when his own interests overlap with those funds, corporations, or government-corporate projects.

For example: Sanders had a history of opposing bonuses for Lockheed Martin executives for a while, and his supporters like to point to this example of the Senator standing up to big business and corporate bonuses. The problem is, Sanders very quietly has come around to being a supporter of Lockheed Martin. There’s some shady history involving Sanders’ denial of being aware of certain deals taking shape between the new Burlington, VT, mayor (recall Burlington is where Sanders got his own start) and Lockheed. Yet somehow, both the Burlington mayor and Senator Sanders were simultaneously working out deals with the company for building and expanding in Vermont. What a nice little coincidence.
 

think

(11,641 posts)
39. Soft corruption is legal. And that's probably why Trump probably won't be indicted.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

Personally I hope they do find evidence of a quid pro quo between Trump and Bondi. But since this has been in the news for months and there is no investigation it's likely it will just be considered more soft corruption that is ethically questionable but is legal under current laws.

Sucks doesn't it....

And that's why it was legal for the Clinton's to do this:

Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons

CONOR FRIEDERSDORF JUL 31, 2015

The Wall Street Journal’s eyebrow-raising story of how the presidential candidate and her husband accepted cash from UBS without any regard for the appearance of impropriety that it created.

~Snip~

The article adds that “there is no evidence of any link between Mrs. Clinton’s involvement in the case and the bank’s donations to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, or its hiring of Mr. Clinton.” Maybe it’s all a mere coincidence, and when UBS agreed to pay Bill Clinton $1.5 million the relevant decision-maker wasn’t even aware of the vast sum his wife may have saved the bank or the power that she will potentially wield after the 2016 presidential election.

But even that wouldn’t make accepting the $1.5 million excusable.

If you’re Bill Clinton and your wife has recently intervened, in her capacity as a cabinet secretary, to help a giant corporation avert a significant threat to its bottom-line, the very least you could do, if only to avoid the appearance of impropriety, is to avoid negotiating seven-figure paydays with that same corporation. This is particularly jaw-dropping because ultra-wealthy Bill Clinton has virtually unlimited opportunities to give lucrative speeches to any number of audiences not directly implicated by decisions that his wife made as secretary of state.

Read more:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/



So no. Hillary didn't take any bribes. She just did things without being told that a bank wanted to have happen to save the bank a lot of money. And coincidentally Bill Clinton gets paid $1.5 million shortly there after to speak to that same bank. The bank then also donated more to the Clinton's foundation as well..
 

think

(11,641 posts)
47. Where did I deflect? I am not against them trying to prosecute Trump. I think even if a quid pro quo
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jun 2016

can't be proven what he did should be illegal and he should be prosecuted.

Blatant conflicts of interests suck and shouldn't be allowed in any form.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
48. The thread is for those who wish to discuss FLA and Donald Trump
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jun 2016

Over on GD: Primates you can participate in any number of poo throwing threads bashing Hillary for being bought and paid for by Goldman/Sachs to her meatloaf recipes in her damn emails.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. Red state leaders encourage criminal activity among their own staff and peers.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

Never seen anything like it, it is as if they realize living in a plutocracy has advantages if you one of the Haves.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. Let's not jump to conclusions, my fellow evil DUers
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

There's no proof of a quid pro quo here, is there? Just because you'd have to be horribly naive not to believe there;s a quid pro quo is not proof that there actually was a quid pro quo. As sophomoric second-year law students like to remind us, the law requires proof. Even the Supreme Shysters claimed that this kind of behavior doesn't allow one to conclude that there is even the appearance of impropriety. Wherever I or anyone else brought up this issue where it concerned a certain other candidate for president who, like Ms. Bondi, was on the receiving end of the deal and suggested that candidate was corrupt, we were accused of "smearing" that candidate and that we had no proof that she was corrupt.

So please, let's not rush to any judgments about Ms. Bondi's ethics.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
20. I like to say that anyone who does't have a little bit of the Devil in him . . .
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

. . . just isn't any fun.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
21. Besides, she's blonde, beautiful and Republican.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

The Trifecta of entitlement in a state that has shown strong preferences for white privilege.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
23. It appears to me
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jun 2016

That the Koch bros and their ilk are overpaying. They obviously don't realize how cheap a lot of repug politicians really are.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
29. Trump supporters out in force on this thread defending him
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

"But Clinton is worse". Watch for the mention of Vince Foster, coming soon.

Can't wait until the day they are banned from DU!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
34. Well, it's worked for bank$ter/jihadists these past 8 years, no reason why he couldn't
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jun 2016

do it too.

Matt_R

(456 posts)
40. Wait... Wait...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jun 2016

Are you telling us that corrupt politicians are corrupt????? That Millionaires and Billionaires are paying off Investigators????

When will Clinton release the Transcripts.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
49. Politicians taking money from wealthy interests is bad today?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

It's so difficult to keep up with trends on the DU, this is such a mercurial place what's in and what's out can change with only the change of a name or even a single letter.

Of course I can see how an immense sum like $25,000 could cause the recipient's opinion to change, after all that is almost six months salary for a median wage worker

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
55. Typical dirty republican
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:41 AM
Jun 2016

Bondi is not only a dirty republican and she is a bigot with the rest of her far right republicans .

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