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brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:21 PM Jun 2016

Did I tell you about my trip to Rome last month?

I DID travel DL business class; I find that if you have meetings the next day you really need those lie-flat bed seats. Had some drinks in the lounge (could have had dinner there but I always enjoy the business class menus). Lovely wine served and regularly refilled.

Admittedly, my hotel was only E160 a night, but that included breakfast and free wifi.

Sadly, I couldn't bring my wife along; it's always nice to travel with family, but sometimes schedule conflicts don't work out.

Really, if you're going to Rome for just the weekend, it's the only way to travel.

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Did I tell you about my trip to Rome last month? (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2016 OP
if you were a certain prez candidate flush with $$ you coulda brought a whole plane-load of people n msongs Jun 2016 #1
I generally find you can beat the traffic AND save money by taking the train from the Airport... brooklynite Jun 2016 #3
And given them all lamb! (ntxt) scscholar Jun 2016 #26
You guys are so butthurt about Sanders' trip to Rome. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #2
I don't mind the trip.... brooklynite Jun 2016 #4
lol melman Jun 2016 #5
Actually, Upstate New York is lovely in the spring. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #6
I'm on the Board of a School in Rome...I go there every year. brooklynite Jun 2016 #7
Yeah. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #8
Feel free to look it up brooklynite Jun 2016 #10
No one cares, lol. You are a punch line! Lol. morningfog Jun 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #17
I get it; the 13 million Clinton voters are all 1%ers? brooklynite Jun 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #21
New Campaign Slogan: "You're too STUPID to vote for Bernie Sanders" brooklynite Jun 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 Jun 2016 #25
Some are 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires' Electric Monk Jun 2016 #23
I am not impressed (WINK) DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #9
+100. n/t Different Drummer Jun 2016 #16
And Havana DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #18
lol - so have I. 840high Jun 2016 #33
What hotel did you stay in? Thanks! CurtEastPoint Jun 2016 #11
Villa San Pio, on the Aventine... brooklynite Jun 2016 #13
Thanks for that. And sorry I waded into a family feud, apparently! CurtEastPoint Jun 2016 #15
How petty and self-entitled you are. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #12
I was wondering if anyone would reach for the bait.... brooklynite Jun 2016 #14
Bwahaha! You did hook one. cwydro Jun 2016 #24
This is what passes for clever? melman Jun 2016 #32
Apparently, several did not. cwydro Jun 2016 #34
I have no idea what Sanders spent to go to Rome. Gulp!!! PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #30
Damn, he baited you. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #20
Gulp !!!! lol I am laughing with you. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #31
Years back when my sweetie and I went to Rome thucythucy Jun 2016 #27
When I travelled for work Retrograde Jun 2016 #28
You probably lack the self awaremess to realize this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #35

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
3. I generally find you can beat the traffic AND save money by taking the train from the Airport...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

...you have to transfer, but ROMA-SAN PIETRO station is only 45 minutes away.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
2. You guys are so butthurt about Sanders' trip to Rome.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

I think that level of butthurtedness is pretty funny. Can't think why you care any more; maybe you should try to get over it and resume your usual gloating.

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
4. I don't mind the trip....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jun 2016

...in fact, if I thought he had flown to Rome to pander to Catholic voters in New York, I'd have more respect for him as a politician.

Admittedly, taking your family along was unnecessary. Jane could have used the weekend to get Bernie's tax returns released.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
6. Actually, Upstate New York is lovely in the spring.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

That's the closest to any Rome you'll ever get.

Get over it.

Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
19. I get it; the 13 million Clinton voters are all 1%ers?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jun 2016

Well, the Obama economic recovery has certainly been effective...

Response to brooklynite (Reply #19)

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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
23. Some are 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires'
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jun 2016
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
13. Villa San Pio, on the Aventine...
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jun 2016

10 minutes walk to the Circus Maximus, 15 minutes to the Coliseum and the Forum.

http://www.hotelvillasanpio.com/default_en.html

What's really nice is that you're away from the noise and congestion of the Centro Storico.

brooklynite

(94,493 posts)
14. I was wondering if anyone would reach for the bait....
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jun 2016

You can provide us with your hostility to Sanders spending 150 times more than I did to take his family to Rome for the weekend?

PufPuf23

(8,764 posts)
30. I have no idea what Sanders spent to go to Rome. Gulp!!!
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jun 2016

My comments regards Sander's trip to Rome were of two types:

1) Clinton supporters went way out of the way to categorically diminish and make ugly the event (most of my posts). Never made a claim that the Pope endorsed Sanders but rather that Sanders was something more than a Pope stalker.

2) The USA and Democratic party looked bad in how the Pope and Vatican had been drawn into particularly petty American politics.

I may not have clearly stated that the trip was an understandable political stunt in nature.

I am not a supporter of the Vatican or Pope or religion in politics; but the current Pope seems more liberal than the previous Pope..

Regards the cost of the trip and the finances of Sanders compared to Clinton:

Hillary (and Bill) Clinton became ultra wealthy because of their political career and Sanders did not. The Clinton net worth and income is 150X more than that of Sanders. Plus the Clinton control a non-profit foundation that has had more than $2 billion in endowment. The Clintons collected $143 million for paid speeches to groups that did not have the best interests of most Americans foremost in their concerns. Two of those speeches exceeded the Sanders annual income. To their credit, Hillary Clinton has a well-oiled political machine and many powerful allies in government, identity political groups, and corporate industry. Sanders likely had new experiences that are common place for the Clintons. The Clintons travel domestic and international with the affluent, certainly more affluent than what the Sanders experienced in the trip to Rome, and the cost and arrangements are of no personal concern on their part - their ordinary lifestyle.

I am an antiwar liberal. I do not support neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism. I identified age 15 as Democrat and registered and voted for McGovern in 1972 when of age. I have been faithful though at times critical.

I would never vote for Trump nor GOP; if Trump is elected and goes too far off the rails I expect that the GOP would be more than willing to facilitate Trumps removal.

I am deeply troubled by Hillary Clinton as a Democratic POTUS.

I am also somewhat unnerved by the Clinton supporters.

Your OP comes off as gloating and ever so accustomed about a trip to Rome; a trip most of the readers here at DU and even more Democrats in general will never have the opportunity to experience. If they are so fortunate to travel Rome, their experience will not be that of yours because you are the seasoned traveler.

Americans should have the experience of Rome.





thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
27. Years back when my sweetie and I went to Rome
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jun 2016

we stayed in the youth hostel, which is the former Athletes' Village for the 1960 Olympics. Just today, watching the news, she told me, "Hey, we slept in the same building as Mohammad Ali!"

We loved it in Rome. I'd go back any time, given half the chance.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
28. When I travelled for work
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

my company would spring for business class only in special cases - like customer meetings immediately after you landed - so I did a lot of intercontinental travel in coach. Then I learned they had no objection to me spending miles to upgrade myself, so I did that with the airline miles I got putting hotels, etc. on my own credit card and getting reimbursed. It makes a big difference in being alert when you get there, so I don't begrudge Sanders traveling in business class.

The one time I went to Rome on vacation I rented an apartment near the Vatican. It's nice having a place to make one or two light meals a day, and encourages one to get out of the tourist cocoon. It was about the price of a medium-range hotel, no breakfast, but a full kitchen and a washing machine! And a short walk to a subway station: Mr. Retrograde has no problems springing for business class (if you shop around and are flexible it's about twice coach) but insists on taking public transportation. Chacun a son gout...

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