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In Trump's interview on CNN he just said: (Original Post) PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 OP
too ignorant to be dog catcher. he's a walking disaster. spanone Jun 2016 #1
I wouldn't even want him as a dog catcher. PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #19
tRump openly hates Mexicans uponit7771 Jun 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Turbineguy Jun 2016 #3
3 syllables...GOOD ONE! PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #11
What that proves is TexasProgresive Jun 2016 #4
Troubling and VERY disturbing. PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #16
But he likes North Korea? leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #5
So does Putin. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #7
He probably looked deeply into his soul. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #8
LOL - I happened to BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #20
"Radical left and radical right seem to meet"...all over the place. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #32
True that! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #33
Salut, Blue! This has been a good day...it's hardly rained a drop, just some slight drizzle. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #38
I agree that those were ridiculous hides. BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #40
The crazy is indeed spiralling out of control! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #43
History, e.g. WWII says you are spot on... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #35
What linguists call a "collocation" would include the expression "dangerous extremism". Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #41
My current 'favorite' is "Islamic terrorists"... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #44
"It's why the Pres and Dems don't use the term." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #45
Trump will drop out shortly. Autumn Jun 2016 #6
Why do people keep saying that? TexasProgresive Jun 2016 #9
He's an abusive, self centered idiot who has absolutely no values, no morals Autumn Jun 2016 #12
If so TexasProgresive Jun 2016 #17
I think being president would be too involved for someone like him. Someone will clue him in that Autumn Jun 2016 #21
Yeah, he makes no bones about his desire to get revenge. PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #26
But dropping out now would look like Hillary had beaten him muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #34
He won't have to acknowledge anything. The media will run with whatever he tells them Autumn Jun 2016 #42
Buy what would happen then? leftyladyfrommo Jun 2016 #10
Any of them can step in and run, he's already lost it for the repulicans. Autumn Jun 2016 #13
Oh, they will have one, alright. pangaia Jun 2016 #15
I'm thinking around 2 weeks. Autumn Jun 2016 #23
when they're done using him as a target for Ds, keep baggers busy & make Rs like cruz, jeb!'normal' Sunlei Jun 2016 #29
That's the frightening thing. pangaia Jun 2016 #47
guess this election republican buddies canned hunters nugent & palin weren't 'crazy-hate' enough Sunlei Jun 2016 #54
Perfect opportunity... TreasonousBastard Jun 2016 #18
doubt the 'blatant' republican racist will make it through the republicans primary Sunlei Jun 2016 #14
Yep. Autumn Jun 2016 #24
I don't think so. cwydro Jun 2016 #30
I don't believe his ego would *ever* allow him to quit. Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #37
Good point and I agree with you! PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #48
Given the party he's heading, he should put those stones down. rug Jun 2016 #22
At times I wonder if this guy can really be that clueless! Logical Jun 2016 #25
Donald Trump is completely clueless PJMcK Jun 2016 #53
How ungrateful...where would Trump be without stupid people? BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #27
^lol!^ PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #31
Usually he says China and Mexico are much smarter than us oberliner Jun 2016 #28
He has a PhD in it... Wounded Bear Jun 2016 #36
PhD from Trump University. Feathery Scout Jun 2016 #39
From "evil doers" and "bad people" OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #46
And we need to figure out why that works lunatica Jun 2016 #49
No need to scratch. OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #50
reduce Cryptoad Jun 2016 #51
Really? lunatica Jun 2016 #56
Yeah, well, I wrote that. OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #57
Lol...cracking up at your post! How to get your message out to morons: PearliePoo2 Jun 2016 #52
I'm sure his followers loved that Different Drummer Jun 2016 #55
I thought he said their leaders are smarter than ours? Actorvist Jun 2016 #58

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
19. I wouldn't even want him as a dog catcher.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

I'm convinced he's just a mean, sadistic asshole!
it would not surprise me one bit that as a young boy, he delighted in abusing other living things...humans AND animals.



Response to PearliePoo2 (Original post)

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
4. What that proves is
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

A country that would even consider being led by this man is capable of real stupidity. Is that because America is full of stupid people. Well, I guess the answer is; maybe not full but certainly enough to be troubling.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
16. Troubling and VERY disturbing.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016

I hear politicians continually say, "the American people are smart...the American people know"...blah, blah, blah

hmmmm....not so sure about that. My nephew just told me he is a Trump supporter! acckkkkkkk!!


BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
20. LOL - I happened to
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

catch an RT broadcast last week just after Hillary's foreign policy speech and much of the RT coverage could have served verbatim as an anti-HIllary ad for Trump.

Plus RT had a panel consisting of Crystal Wright, an avid Trump supporter who also participates in Fox panels, and other dubious panelists whose names I didn't catch. Radical left and radical right seem to meet and mesh in RT broadcasts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
32. "Radical left and radical right seem to meet"...all over the place.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jun 2016

180° extremism leads to many points of convergence.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
33. True that!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jun 2016
Bonjour, Suraya! I've enjoyed your posts during these past weeks even when I haven't commented!

I'm glad to hear that the Seine level is diminishing and hope that continues in Paris and elsewhere.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
38. Salut, Blue! This has been a good day...it's hardly rained a drop, just some slight drizzle.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:36 AM
Jun 2016

Overcast skies, but no real rain. That'll give the water-logged sewers, rivers and soil a chance to drain.

I always appreciate your contributions, too.

You know, for the first time in my DU career (10+ years), my transparency page is visible.

Quel honte ! (Shameful) But, some of those hides are so ludicrous that I'll wear it as a badge of honor.

The minute you raise your head above the parapet, you become a target of the BS alert-swarm.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
40. I agree that those were ridiculous hides.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

Perhaps I'll get a hide for saying that ... and that will also be ridiculous! The spiral of ridicule!

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
35. History, e.g. WWII says you are spot on...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

Far right NAZI Germany against Far Left Communist Soviet Union. Little to choose between them.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
41. What linguists call a "collocation" would include the expression "dangerous extremism".
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

This is no accident. Such expressions appear in a language because they've evolved and proved to be true over time.

What is a collocation?

A collocation is two or more words that often go together. These combinations just sound "right" to native English speakers, who use them all the time. On the other hand, other combinations may be unnatural and just sound "wrong".

https://www.englishclub.com/vocabulary/collocations.htm

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
44. My current 'favorite' is "Islamic terrorists"...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jun 2016

It's all over RW media to the point where when those of less sophisticated discernment hear one of the words, they automatically attach the other in their mind. It's why the Pres and Dems don't use the term. It furthers the RW hate speech meme. It is exactly what they did with al Qaeda in Iraq. It was barely there before we went in, but a substantial portion of the American public believed Saddam was working with them because they continually used the two terms 'collocated' in speeches and press conferences.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
45. "It's why the Pres and Dems don't use the term."
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:07 AM
Jun 2016

Exactly, they're making a conscious effort to "de-collocate" the expression. Good point!

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
12. He's an abusive, self centered idiot who has absolutely no values, no morals
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jun 2016

he is only running for president for the attention, he has no intention of being President. He just wanted to knock out everyone else to prove he was the better man.

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
17. If so
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

He like dimson won't be satisfied until he's in the White House with his finger in the nuclear pie.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
21. I think being president would be too involved for someone like him. Someone will clue him in that
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

it's not like his Apprentice TV show.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
26. Yeah, he makes no bones about his desire to get revenge.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jun 2016

If he thinks he's been slighted, he says he gives it back even harder and he doesn't ever forget.
Having access to the ultimate weapons to inflict punishment/pain on someone or a country that he feels has "dissed" him, that HAS to excite him.





muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
34. But dropping out now would look like Hillary had beaten him
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jun 2016

and he cannot acknowledge any woman as equal to him, let alone better.

Autumn

(44,984 posts)
42. He won't have to acknowledge anything. The media will run with whatever he tells them
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

until it becomes fact.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
10. Buy what would happen then?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

The Republicans would have no candidate at all.

That would be one for the ages.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. Oh, they will have one, alright.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

I think Autumn is right, although I would not want to say how soon he will run away.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. when they're done using him as a target for Ds, keep baggers busy & make Rs like cruz, jeb!'normal'
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jun 2016
even bush3 is better eh republicans?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
47. That's the frightening thing.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

Next to him the rest are supposed to look bearable.
It's a horror story.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
18. Perfect opportunity...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

Republicans offer Hillary the job and Bernie walks into the Dem slot.

We have a real election.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. doubt the 'blatant' republican racist will make it through the republicans primary
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

one of the less blatant republican racists will 'ron paul' him away, after their party is thoroughly humiliated and the violence generated by trumps big mouth ruins any chances.

Feathery Scout

(218 posts)
37. I don't believe his ego would *ever* allow him to quit.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016


Trump wants to WIN. Being President is secondary.

I notice that his most virulent attacks against others are when they go after his personal reputation. Not when they question his ability to be President. Not when they say he is unelectable.

But when they say he is a fraud and con-man. THAT pulls out the fury. Go after his business success. Trump U. Or his reputation in charitableness. The million dollars he supposedly gave to vets. THEN you get the fireworks.

He would never walk away or drop out. That would be seen as weak and as being a loser.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
48. Good point and I agree with you!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jun 2016

Look at how often he invokes the word 'WIN".
"We're going to WIN so much it will make your head spin" "We're going to WIN so often that you'll get TIRED of winning!" WIN..WIN..WIN
It's like a drug high for him. I read where he even bragged to a friend that he could take his girlfriend away from him at any time if he wanted to (ultimate "WIN"...get the other guy's girl/wife in his bed).

He's a vain, ego freak that has to "WIN" all the trophies there are. All the women in his life (including his daughter) are his trophies and they must be "10s" and also "HOT".

He is beyond disgusting.


PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
53. Donald Trump is completely clueless
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jun 2016

Unless something is in his head or in front of him, Donald Trump doesn't know anything. The other day, Mark Cuban said that Mr. Trump "has absolutely zero self-awareness. None. Zip." This allows him to lie and switch positions constantly.

"He would be so dependent on everyone around him because of his lack of depth of knowledge and fear of failing..."

The Donald would be a total disaster! Look what he's done for the Republican Party.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Usually he says China and Mexico are much smarter than us
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jun 2016

And they make better deals - while we make stupid deals.

He has trouble keeping his BS straight.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
46. From "evil doers" and "bad people"
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:54 AM
Jun 2016

to "stupid things" and "stupid people", the Republican elites talk to their constituency as if they were addressing morons.

And they are.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
49. And we need to figure out why that works
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

Dubya was one of the morons and he became President. Why wouldn't Trump too?

All while we sit and scratch our heads in puzzlement.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
50. No need to scratch.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

In the communal sphere, the preferences of the mass public are arbitrary and vague, shaped through the acquisition of information (Jost et al., 2003) from opinion leaders whose function is to attach idea-elements together (Converse, 1964).

As one progresses downward from elites to the mass public on a conceptual rationality scale, further examination reveals the majority of the population sampled are unable to express an understanding of the constraints affecting political parties and issues without being prompted by political elites, resulting in frequent instances of logical inconsistencies (Converse, 1964). Consequently, abstract concepts such as ideological principles give way to simple, concrete belief systems which revolve around family, work, etc. Furthermore, the majority of the population rely on group politics, i.e., their primary means of identifying parties is through the treatment they and other groups received from political parties.

This process of acquiring information from authoritative sources to satisfy preferences which include survival is described as laying the foundation for a belief system (Converse, 1964; Kruglanski & Thompson, 1999a, 1999b as cited in Jost et al., 2003; McGuire, 1985, as cited in Jost et al., 2003). Converse (1964) and Kunda (1990, as cited in Jost et al., 2003) suggest that this belief system is regulated by multiple constraints. The constraints offer a probability that a specific attitude held in a belief system will result in certain other attitudes being held (Converse, 1964). These constraints are identified as logical, psychological, and social (Converse, 1964). Jost et al. (2003) further expand on the concept by describing these constraints as existential (fear, curiosity), epistemic (authoritarian, liberal), and ideological (group dominance, egalitarianism). According to Jost et al. (2003), belief systems fulfill psychological needs.

Within the constraints, belief systems provide a principled doctrine by which new information obtained is compared to prior associations in order to choose a course which provides the greatest utility (Jost et al., 2003). However, these belief systems do not operate in a vacuum; uncertain conditions and numerous variables can influence personal motivations by invoking emotional responses, leading to a reformulation of logic that while not syllogistically sound, is principled nonetheless (Jost et al., 2003).

Information gathering in early childhood requires the formation of relationships (Weber & Federico, 2007). Attachment theory states that relationships are sought in order to reduce anxiety and provide a sense of security (Sroufe & Waters, 1977, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007). Successful proximity-seeking efforts create a secure attachment style, inspiring self confidence, curiosity and an openness to new experiences (Ainsworth, Blehar, Waters, & Wall, 1978, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007). Failed proximity-seeking efforts result in anxiety stemming from the lack of security, compounded by distress over the failure to establish a relationship (Mikulincer & Shaver, 2003, as cited in Weber and Federico, 2007). Recurring failure or inconsistency (Ainsworth et al., 1978, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007) in proximity-seeking efforts creates two insecure attachment styles; anxious and avoidant (Weber & Federico, 2007).

Anxious attachment style is associated with fixations on proximity-seeking and emotional support (Weber & Federico, 2007). Avoidant attachment style abandons proximity-seeking and instead relies on self-dependence to control anxiety (Weber & Federico, 2007). Brennan, Clark, & Shaver (1998, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007) have determined that anxious and avoidant attachment styles in adults manifest themselves as either elevated states of arousal with a fixation on close relationships, or as an emotional disconnect with an aversion to close relationships, respectively.

Duckitt (2001, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007) proposes that childrearing practices lead to the development of personality traits which endorse world views that form ideology. Children who have attained a secure attachment style are open to new information more than those with either of the two insecure attachment styles (Cassidy, 1986, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007), as well as being less dogmatic and less reliant on ethnic stereotypes (Mikulincer, 1997, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007). Additionally, Mikulincer & Florian (2000, as cited in Weber & Federico, 2007) have shown that secure attachment styles “mitigate the effect of mortality salience on the denigration of moral transgressors” (p. 394).

It has been demonstrated that children who have attained insecure attachment styles later as adults develop Right Wing Authoritarian (RWA) ideologies, in which the world is viewed as a dangerous place (Altemeyer, 1998; Duckitt & Fisher, 2003, as cited by Weber & Federico, 2007), or Social Dominance Order (SDO) ideologies, in which the world is viewed as a competitive jungle (Duckitt, 2001, as cited by Weber & Federico, 2007). RWA’s are defined by a deference to authority figures, an endorsement of severe punishment by authority figures, and a high degree of conventionalism (Altemeyer, 2006). SDO’s differ from RWA’s in that rather than embracing authoritarianism as a means of protection against an out-group which threatens society, SDO’s feel that society has already fallen and that only the strong shall survive, prompting group domination, punishment, and humiliation against out-groups (Altemeyer, 1998). Altemeyer (1998, as cited in Jost et al., 2003) and Pratto, Sidanious, Stallworth & Malle (1994, as cited in Jost et al., 2003) have shown that SDO’s correlate with Republican party identification.

In response to criticism that scales of authoritarianism neglected left-wing personalities, Rokeach (1960, as cited in Jost et al., 2003) developed a scale of dogmatism which included measures of logically contradictory beliefs and denial of contradictions in belief systems.

According to Rokeach:

All belief-disbelief systems serve two powerful and conflicting sets of motives at the same time: the need for a cognitive framework to know and to understand and the need to ward off threatening aspects of reality. To the extent that the cognitive need to know is predominant and the need to ward off threat is absent, open systems should result. . . . But as the need to ward off threat becomes stronger, the cognitive need to know should become weaker, resulting in more closed belief systems (p. 67, as quoted in Jost et al., 2003, p. 346).


Thus, closed belief systems reduce ambiguity-induced anxiety by satisfying the need to know (Rokeach, 1960, as cited in Jost et al., 2003).

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
56. Really?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:25 PM
Jun 2016

You're argument, which I assume it is, only obfuscates.

It's possible to put forth persuasive arguments in general language, without the need for scientific jargon written for a academic paper for professorial peers.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
57. Yeah, well, I wrote that.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

For a quantitative analysis paper I titled, "Testing Constraints of Belief Systems," where I ran an ANOVA analysis to see what self-identified group, liberal, independent, or conservative, would be most willing to give the FBI more powers to investigate terrorism, even if it interfered with civil liberties.

Surprise, surprise: When controlling for fear, the group most willing to give more powers to the FBI, even at the cost of civil liberties, were liberals.

Now, what are you complaining about? You don't understand it, so you say I'm obfuscating?

Let me explain it to you like you're a Republican:

Winner is winner.

Winner tell you what to think.

Stupid people do stupid thing.

Stupid people loser.

No be stupid

Hate stupid people.

Punish stupid people.

No think why stupid people stupid.

Make head dizzy.

No think.

Yes hate.

Feel good.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
52. Lol...cracking up at your post! How to get your message out to morons:
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

Keep it "simple". Keep it "stupid".
And like Turbineguy above says, "Keep it two syllables".







Different Drummer

(7,606 posts)
55. I'm sure his followers loved that
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

Why in the hell is that ignorant dumbass the "presumptive nominee" of any political party?

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