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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:23 PM Jun 2016

A jury system I can live with and a jury system that will kill alert trolls.



Great job Admin!

What's changing
The privilege to serve on a Jury is now only offered to members who have been registered for at least one year, have more than 1,000 posts, and have an active Star membership.

Alerters will no longer be asked to provide an explanation for their alert. Instead they will be presented with a short list of rules written by the Administrators and asked to select which rule they believe the post breaks.

Jurors will no longer be asked to evaluate the post based on the alerter's comments and their own gut feeling. Instead they will be asked whether they believe the post breaks the specific rule selected by the alerter.

Jurors will no longer evaluate posts in-thread. Instead they'll be taken to a separate page. On this page only the portion of the thread relevant to the alerted post will be displayed (or just the OP if the OP was the alerted post), and usernames and other identifying information will be removed.

The Jury system still forbids "double jeopardy," but posts which were alerted for a particular rule and survived a Jury can now be re-alerted for a different rule.

Previously Jurors had two options: "Hide it" or "Leave it alone." Now Jurors have four options: "It clearly breaks the rule"; "Close call, but it breaks the rule"; "It doesn't quite break the rule"; and "It clearly doesn't break the rule."

Jurors will no longer be able to provide comments.

Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after Jury service is complete.

You will not be able to peek at other members' hidden posts. Only the author of the post can check the text of a removed post.

You will be able to officially appeal if a Jury removes your post. We have built in an appeals system that allows members to send an appeal directly to Admin. Admin will review the post and provide a final ruling. If your appeal is convincing, the post will be reinstated.

The Admins may also step in from time to time and remove a post if we think a Jury blew it and allowed a rule violation to stand.

If you can't bring yourself to enforce a particular rule when serving on a Jury, you can object to that rule and you'll never be asked to serve on a Jury for that rule again. The Admins will keep a tally of objections which will give us useful feedback about the rules.

Transparency pages are going away, since they only seemed to serve to create forum drama. (They may be replaced with something else at a later date.)

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A jury system I can live with and a jury system that will kill alert trolls. (Original Post) trumad Jun 2016 OP
Some of it I like, some I don't like at all. Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #1
Sounds good. Two points, though. PJMcK Jun 2016 #2
Have you read some of the comments jurors have left. trumad Jun 2016 #3
Makes sense. Thank you. (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #4
Better liberal N proud Jun 2016 #5
I don't think alert trolls are a big issue, but this takes all the fun out of Jury system snooper2 Jun 2016 #6
Agree. No seeing hidden posts? bunnies Jun 2016 #7

PJMcK

(21,984 posts)
2. Sounds good. Two points, though.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

The majority of these changes sound very good. But the rationale for these two decisions eludes me:

Jurors will no longer be able to provide comments.

Alerters and Jurors will no longer receive notifications after Jury service is complete.

Any ideas about why these changes are being made? Thanks, in advance.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
3. Have you read some of the comments jurors have left.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jun 2016

I think they think the comments breed discontent. Plus---I think this is a way to kill the alert trolls.

liberal N proud

(60,331 posts)
5. Better
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:42 PM
Jun 2016

I still will not be serving on a jury, unless I reestablish my star status. But those that do serve will have some vested interest in retaining DU integrity.

Hate the drama of the last several months.

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