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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoni Ernst...wants to ban meatless Mondays for the military
Just when you think she can not possibly be more dim.
Nothing wrong with a meatless day weekly, even if you are not a vegetarian.
[link:https://www.yahoo.com/news/senator-wants-ban-meatless-mondays-192500307.html|
Iowa Senator Joni Ernst introduced legislation this week to prohibit U.S. armed forces facilities from establishing Meatless Monday, suggesting that such a program might leave soldiers without adequate meat protein.
The Ernst proposaltechnically an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Actcites the federal governments dietary guidelines as reason to ensure that members of the armed forces get enough meat. The guidelines do suggest that protein from meat plays a key part in a healthy eating pattern, but the document also says that the average American man gets too much of that protein from meat. Instead of relying on meat, the guidelines recommend diversifying the diet with seafood, nuts and beans.
In an emailed statement, Ernst described Meatless Mondays as misguided at best and in conflict with dietary standards. Our men and women in uniform should have the option to consume the protein they need, including meat, on a daily basis, she said.
The Ernst proposal comes as the Humane Society has made inroads promoting Meatless Mondayabstaining from meat on that day of the weekfor members of the armed services. The animal welfare group provides training and recipes to help facilities reduce their meat consumption. The group helped the U.S. Coast Guard Academy in Connecticut cut meat consumption by 10% in three years, according to a Politico report.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Yes, you were in the military and stuff, but why not leave the day-to-day stuff to, you know, the chain of command? Besides, isn't there (Supreme) something else (Court) you (vacancy) might (budget) want (jobs) to devote (environment) your time to, instead of micromanaging the military's menus?
Rex
(65,616 posts)I guess Spinach Burger doesn't sounds as good.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Why not let an adult have a say in what they want to eat?
braddy
(3,585 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)Bettie
(16,089 posts)her and Grassley as my senators.
Honestly, I really hope Trump chooses her as his running mate, she leaves the senate and drifts off into obscurity after they lose.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)They hate the truth.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Bettie
(16,089 posts)just asking.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:57 PM - Edit history (1)
And they usually provide meatless meals just about everyday. Along with choices with meat.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)and Joni Ernst is a known whack job.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)A fully vegetarian meal shouldn't be the only option.
It's up to the facilities managers. That's a nutritional and budgeting concern and there's really no reason for any politician to attempt to hamstring those decisions.
Additionally, it's simply fact that the wide-scale production of meat is more environmentally destructive than vegetable- and grain-based food production. Reducing demand for mass-market meat is, in general, a good policy.
There's no way to tell from the OP whether it's simple encouragement to try meatless meals for one day or a decision to not offer meat for that one day.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)animal protein at every meal if they so choose.
No one's forcing vegetarians to eat meat. Vegetarians shouldn't force their preferences on the troops, even for a day a week.
yewberry
(6,530 posts)It's a budget and nutritional calculation. A politician from a state that is the #1 producer of pork and the #2 producer of beef in the US should not be able to force those facilities to make a decision one way or another.
Vegetarians aren't forcing anyone to do anything.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)And I disagree with facility managers who would impose vegetarian days on the troops.
1939
(1,683 posts)Local mess facilities have the ability to deviate from it somewhat, but the issue points dole out rations according to the "master menu".
Iserved in the army
At the mess hall you get what they serve, you don't like it... eat out
That's pretty much been the policy of the army since the mid-70's (likely longer)
In the field, we got those bags of MREs. Don't like 'em too bad.
Eat what you like
No one is getting robbed of important nutrients.
There is a dietary requirement that every mess hall must meet
And they have a budget they must keep
If they're not in the field and they don't like what's on the menu, do what lots of soldiers did when I served... go out to eat.
There are at least two fast food places on almost every post, not to mention there are often restaurants as well
Go off post and eat
IADEMO2004
(5,554 posts)Smells like bat shit.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)state.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Don't they? Kinda figured that was why Duyba, allowed all that slaughter of mustangs on BLM land.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)he is afraid of horses.
And everything. He probably sold it to the private prisons.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Truthfully, I'm surprised this didn't come from Deb Fischer.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)She would make a wonderful choice for Rump.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)"the guidelines recommend diversifying the diet with seafood, nuts and beans."
I still don't get why people refuse to classify sea-animals as meat.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)You want to? Go ahead...
Leave the rest of us alone.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)She seems a bit obsessed with all things meat.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)What else can you say?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)You know there is ludicrous bullshit on the way.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)mac and cheese instead of pork chops for one day a week? Her priorities are very, very odd.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)The image we have of gladiators in Ancient Rome is wrong. Most of the time they were neither scrawny slaves nor fighting to the death. There were slave-gladiators who were forced to fight, but there were also professional gladiators who did this for the money.
Letting your performers die is bad for business and experienced performers draw more viewers. While fights to the death did happen, they were rare. Most fights were rather "first blood": Show the audience some nice bloody wound and then declare the fight over.
(The colosseum had advertisement-banners, famous gladiators had action-figures...)
And what did those slave-gladiators eat?
The main diet was beans and grains, combined in a dish called "puls gladiatorum". (I have cooked it many times. Simple and tasty.) Plus some vegetables and fruit for the vitamins. Plus some seaweed for the minerals.
That was what got them ready for grueling hours of combat-practice each day.
In fact, the diet was so rich that gladiators added considerable weight over time.
Why was this important?
Because a gladiator's body can handle cuts and bruises easier if there is some fat as cushion under the skin. And that is good, because if your gladiator dies, your investment is gone. You have to buy a new slave, train him and hope that he's a good fighter who can draw an audience.
* If someone wants the recipe for "puls gladiatorum", just ask me. I don't want to take this thread too far off-topic.
Bettie
(16,089 posts)I did not know this at all. Though, to be honest, the study of what gladiators eat was never one of my research topics!