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Renew Deal

(81,839 posts)
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:43 AM Jun 2016

The Orlando shooter was of Afghani descent

Suspected Islamic extremist shoots dead at least 20 at Florida gay club after bursting in 'wearing a suicide vest' and taking hostages - injuring a further 42 - before he is killed in shootout



The suspected Islamic extremist who killed about 20 people after taking party-goers hostage inside a gay club in Orlando has been identified.

Law enforcement sources have identified the shooter, who was wielding an assault rifle and a handgun, as US citizen Omar Mateen, from Port St. Lucie in Florida.

The gunman, who was born to Afghan parents, was carrying a suspicious device, possibly a suicide vest, when he opened fire on the dance floor inside Pulse in the early hours of this morning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html

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The Orlando shooter was of Afghani descent (Original Post) Renew Deal Jun 2016 OP
Prepare for Trump going ballistic over this. sufrommich Jun 2016 #1
Why shouldn't he? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #4
So he should drum up hatred of Muslims? Is that what you are saying? pangaia Jun 2016 #6
No, of course not. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #11
So are we all. What's the solution? DesertRat Jun 2016 #24
Should we deport all Muslims and stop Muslims sufrommich Jun 2016 #7
That's Trump. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #13
Wow! trumad Jun 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #14
& one just for you: kpete Jun 2016 #18
That never happened. Nice internet meme tho. n/t Daniel537 Jun 2016 #19
all religion causes this kind of shit! the OKC terrorist was whacko fundy christian! TimeToEvolve Jun 2016 #21
It's already started in here. rug Jun 2016 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #28
American citizen philosslayer Jun 2016 #2
Yeah okay Kurska Jun 2016 #3
Come on, man. Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #5
Not likely.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #8
Doubtful. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2016 #10
A non-white guy at a Trump rally? Surely, you jest. nt Captain Stern Jun 2016 #22
Ok, first of all this is the Daily Mail, the rag for isolationists in the UK auntpurl Jun 2016 #9
Your post tells the story. It's about politically exploiting the situation, but only the right way. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #15
You're damned right it is. auntpurl Jun 2016 #17
I do not tie these shooting to mental illness apcalc Jun 2016 #29
I'm sorry, you are absolutely right. auntpurl Jun 2016 #30
Ali Quote: kpete Jun 2016 #16
He was a good man. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #23
Outstanding! rug Jun 2016 #26
Ali never said that. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #27
He is a homegrown terrorist malaise Jun 2016 #20
His parents probably came here to escape the Soviets nt maryellen99 Jun 2016 #31
The right-wing whackos are claiming that he was a registered Democrat, red dog 1 Jun 2016 #32

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
1. Prepare for Trump going ballistic over this.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016

He's going to whip up the Muslim hate like nobody's business.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
4. Why shouldn't he?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016

This shit has got to be stopped, no matter who is doing it.

I'm beyond sick and tired of it, too.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. Should we deport all Muslims and stop Muslims
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

from entering the country?

Because that's what Trump wants to do.

Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
21. all religion causes this kind of shit! the OKC terrorist was whacko fundy christian!
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jun 2016

the only legit way forward is scientific rationalism!

Response to sufrommich (Reply #1)

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
2. American citizen
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016

Born and raised in the US. For all we know he was a recent participant at a Donald Trump rally.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
9. Ok, first of all this is the Daily Mail, the rag for isolationists in the UK
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

They hate foreigners as much as any Trump supporter.

Second, the language they use "Islamic extremist" with a "suspected" tacked on there just to cover their asses, is inflammatory and may not reflect the situation in any realistic way.

And finally, the Dems need to link this incident strongly to gun control (which is entirely the problem) no matter who is wielding the fucking thing or the Trumpster is going to get a bump in the polls.

Renew Deal

(81,839 posts)
15. Your post tells the story. It's about politically exploiting the situation, but only the right way.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
17. You're damned right it is.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jun 2016

We have to have sensible gun control and I don't care WHAT the fuck we have to exploit to get it. There are dead bodies all over a club in Florida because this horrific person was able to get hold of a gun in the United States of America.

apcalc

(4,462 posts)
29. I do not tie these shooting to mental illness
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jun 2016

I tie them to religious extremism.

Notice I am NOT saying any particular religion.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
30. I'm sorry, you are absolutely right.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jun 2016

I am going to edit my post. I WORK in mental health, I fucking know better too. I am horrified by this and didn't think before I posted. Thank you very much for the reminder.

red dog 1

(27,742 posts)
32. The right-wing whackos are claiming that he was a registered Democrat,
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016

Info-Wars, Snopes.com, and one called "Zero Hedge" all are saying that.

Does anyone know of a CREDIBLE source claiming he was, indeed, "a registered Democrat"?

I find that hard to believe, given the insanity of his father, who supports the Talliban and who has claimed to be the "President of Afghanistan"

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