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You can own a 6 shot revolver, and a 2 shot, shot gun. Nothing else. (Original Post) boston bean Jun 2016 OP
I don't normally reply to these kinds of threads, kentauros Jun 2016 #1
What if you need two bullets to defend your life? ileus Jun 2016 #15
Like I said, I hadn't gotten that far. kentauros Jun 2016 #17
I can go take some lead weights off a car rim in a parking lot and make new bullets. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #30
You did notice the part where I stated kentauros Jun 2016 #41
You can have 30 minutes in the approved free speech designated zone. Nothing else. linuxman Jun 2016 #2
Apples and pot holes uponit7771 Jun 2016 #4
Seems they are both right there in the bill of rights, but whatever. linuxman Jun 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Jun 2016 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #7
Post was kung-fu edited Dem2 Jun 2016 #9
30 minutes....don't you mean 5 and 2? ileus Jun 2016 #12
If the terrorist would have used his First Amendment as opposed to his Second tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #18
If free speech channels were used to radicalized or inspire killers like this fuck linuxman Jun 2016 #25
Once again, name ONE democratic senator who would support this! Logical Jun 2016 #3
Senator Makebelievy from Indignantrageland. linuxman Jun 2016 #14
I think we need to limit general gun purchases to those two items. roamer65 Jun 2016 #6
Absolutely because you're deader if shot with a semi-auto shadowrider Jun 2016 #33
absolutely ! Angel Martin Jun 2016 #44
Authoritarian horseshit. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #10
No thanks... ileus Jun 2016 #11
You can have a musket MadBadger Jun 2016 #13
How did you hook your printing press to the phone lines? linuxman Jun 2016 #16
No, thanks. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #19
What? liberalnarb Jun 2016 #22
These days revolvers and double barrels arent typical weapons jmg257 Jun 2016 #20
The "militia" purpose of the 2nd Amendment is an irrelevant anachronism; we have the National Guard Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #40
That is true. Obsolete yet still laws of the land. jmg257 Jun 2016 #43
i sure as hell wouldn't call one person Takket Jun 2016 #21
Do people actually believe this crap? beevul Jun 2016 #31
Do people actually believe this crap? shadowrider Jun 2016 #34
yeah, people actually believe this "crap". Takket Jun 2016 #35
Uh yes there is. beevul Jun 2016 #38
I'll pass on that Heeeeers Johnny Jun 2016 #23
Hunters going to get hungry One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #24
Nope. progressoid Jun 2016 #26
You need to add some rifles to that list. Just limit magazine capacities to a few rounds. dawg Jun 2016 #27
I can go along with that. boston bean Jun 2016 #28
We really need to make it hard for one person to do that much damage. dawg Jun 2016 #29
3d print magazines Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #36
Takes a bit of work. Multiple parts. Spring. Different materials required. dawg Jun 2016 #39
a 6 shot revolver, and a 2 shot, shot gun happynewyear Jun 2016 #32
Or the person Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #37
I'd allow muzzle-loaders and possibly cap-and-ball revolvers Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #42

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
1. I don't normally reply to these kinds of threads,
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jun 2016

but was thinking about solutions, too. I like yours, it could work

This one is a bit more absurd:

One person.
One gun.
One bullet.

The bullet would have a registration number on the casing. Every time you fire that one bullet, you have to keep the casing and return it to the store where you bought it as proof that you can buy another one. The registration number would also be proof that it was your bullet and not just one you found or made yourself.

If you lose your casing, well, I hadn't worked it out that far. Perhaps some lengthy time-period has to pass before you can buy another one.

No need for Chris Rock's solution of $5,000 per bullet, though this does limit the number of bullets as well.

Like I said, it's absurd, but maybe we could implement parts of it

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
17. Like I said, I hadn't gotten that far.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jun 2016

However, the other person also would have only one bullet. Of course, if it's a group of people against you, then you're fucked.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
30. I can go take some lead weights off a car rim in a parking lot and make new bullets.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

I could reload just about as many bullets as I want to. How are you going to stop that?

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
2. You can have 30 minutes in the approved free speech designated zone. Nothing else.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:49 PM
Jun 2016

That's my solution. I don't think that infringes upon anyone's 1st amendment rights.

However, it sure would cut down on all these inflammatory ideas which cause mass murders.



 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
8. Seems they are both right there in the bill of rights, but whatever.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

I don't trust those who look to shred the BOR piecemeal. Time and again they've proven to me that it's really the whole shabang they don't care for.

I'll keep my guns, and all my other rights too, thanks.😃

Response to linuxman (Reply #2)

Response to Dem2 (Reply #5)

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
18. If the terrorist would have used his First Amendment as opposed to his Second
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

Amendment rights, 50 people would still be alive.

Nice try though.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
25. If free speech channels were used to radicalized or inspire killers like this fuck
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

Would you want them shut down?

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
6. I think we need to limit general gun purchases to those two items.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

Semi-automatic and above weapons need to be subject to a much more rigorous background search and permitting process.

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
33. Absolutely because you're deader if shot with a semi-auto
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

than you are dead if shot by revolver.

Makes perfect sense.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
16. How did you hook your printing press to the phone lines?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jun 2016

I'm assuming that's how your wrote that.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
20. These days revolvers and double barrels arent typical weapons
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

Related to the efficiency of a militia...not really in tune with that whole "militia purpose" of the 2nd.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
40. The "militia" purpose of the 2nd Amendment is an irrelevant anachronism; we have the National Guard
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:38 PM
Jun 2016

and a standing army.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
21. i sure as hell wouldn't call one person
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

having enough firepower to take out a crowd of 50 people a "well regulated militia". It is time to stop the perversion of the 2nd amendment, which was granted to the people because of the continuing threat of British attack, that leads to the modern day interpretation that any person should be allowed to own any amount of weaponry and ammunition that they desire. That was never the intent or the goal of the 2nd amendment.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
31. Do people actually believe this crap?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016
It is time to stop the perversion of the 2nd amendment, which was granted to the people because of the continuing threat of British attack...


NOTHING was granted to the people. Amendment 2 restricts government, it doesn't grant anything.

...that leads to the modern day interpretation that any person should be allowed to own any amount of weaponry and ammunition that they desire.


Hyperbole.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
35. yeah, people actually believe this "crap".
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:30 PM
Jun 2016

1. There is no fundamental difference between a right granted to the people and a restriction on government. I can call it a right, you can call it a government restriction, it is the same thing. Fill in the blank: The first 10 amendments to the Constitution are referred to as the Bill of _______.

I'm not sure what point you are even trying to prove by making this distinction.

2. Hyperbole? No its not. And don't come back with "people aren't allowed to own nuclear weapons". You know exactly what I mean. I can legally buy and own as many firearms and ammo as I want.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
38. Uh yes there is.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016
1. There is no fundamental difference between a right granted to the people and a restriction on government.


Uh yes there is. In one example the right is granted by government. Government is the source.

In the other, government is not only not the source of the right, they're generally forbidden from interfering with it.


So yes, huge difference.


I'm not sure what point you are even trying to prove by making this distinction.


That accuracy matters and hyperbole serves no purpose.

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
23. I'll pass on that
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jun 2016

My response to your suggestion is that I would/will oppose, and work against any efforts that would impose
those limitations.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
24. Hunters going to get hungry
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

Dropping a Deer with a 6 shooter will be a bit more difficult than with a long gun. And the Cops may not care for having to go back to the revolver.

progressoid

(49,951 posts)
26. Nope.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

I don't own a gun but know many people who do. They run the gamut from the occasional hunter (like my Dad, a lifetime member of the Democratic party) to the loony NRA guy (like my former boss who owns an arsenal). And none of them would find your solution reasonable. 2nd amendment notwithstanding.



dawg

(10,621 posts)
27. You need to add some rifles to that list. Just limit magazine capacities to a few rounds.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

There are still places in this country where rifles are necessary for hunting and wildlife control.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
29. We really need to make it hard for one person to do that much damage.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

High capacity magazines, owning multiple magazines that can be rapidly exchanged, multiple weapons owned by a single individual - all of these things need to be looked at.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
39. Takes a bit of work. Multiple parts. Spring. Different materials required.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

It'd be easier to buy one on black market.

No precautions are foolproof. But the more steps you make people take, the more chances there are for them to arouse suspicion.

happynewyear

(1,724 posts)
32. a 6 shot revolver, and a 2 shot, shot gun
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

and you feel the need to have these it seems. Why?

We now have over 50 people dead because of guns, yes guns guns guns.



Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
42. I'd allow muzzle-loaders and possibly cap-and-ball revolvers
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

Muzzle loaders take a LONG time to reload (see the scene in the movie "Glory" ), cap-and-ball pistols reload faster, but slower than a conventional revolver, and WAY slower than automatic pistols and magazine rifles.

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