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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
2. and of course you’ll hear from them soon.....N/t
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jun 2016

Bullshit about how the govt. is inept at preventing these kind of attacks...

And the gun was bought legally.. Which ties in with your initial post..

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
4. I think this is all about the shooter, his rage, his ideology, and his choices.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

It would be no less a tragedy had he thrown a fire bomb.



busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. Of course you think that.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jun 2016

you’re a walking ad for the NRA...Simple fact is that this nut was able to freely able to walk into a gun store and purchase AR15 and hand gun in less than 1o minutes.. No questions asked..

Your solution? Good guys should always be heavily armed..So more guns are needed..Everywhere...

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
6. If he bought the guns from a gunstore he definitely was asked 13 questions and verified via NICS
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

I'm not sure we know all the details about how he obtained his weapons, but there is every indication that he was not a prohibited person (since he appears to have worked as a security guard).

This is a terrible tragedy -- a heinous mass murder and I hold the shooter accountable.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
7. and i repeat..”not the lax gun laws”
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

and the greed from those who sell guns and politicians who sit on their hands because of the NRA funding..

You have no problems with these facts... Correct?

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
8. I think you actually have to say something at least once in order to say, "And I repeat..."
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

I do not think that even if there were no NRA that this person doesn't hate gays and want to make an example of them as a part of some amateur ISIS jihadi extremist act. Other guns would be effective. Other means such as pressure cooker bombs or malatov cocktails would be effective. Maybe a few less die, maybe a few more. Its hard to say, but the massacre would be the fault of the hater who took action.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
9. Yet you refuse to believe..
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:47 PM
Jun 2016

That the millions upon millions of guns in our Country which can be obtained with ease, have no role in the 30,000 people a year who lose their live due to the ease which they can be obtained.?.

The people you blame. obviously the ones with severe mental issues...You feel that they should be prevented from easily purchasing a AR15? Or should we just execute them or put them away for the rest of their lives?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
10. Gun, magazine, bullets and shooter are really inseparable essential parts to this event
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016

Different people will prefer different components to be their preferred point of contention.

In food safety there is a concept called "hazardous critical control points", these are places within the production, storage, transportation, preparation and service of food where intervention of safe practices can make significant difference to the occurrence of foodborne disease.

Rather than blaming any one politically convenient feature, the analysis that leads to reduction depends on considering ALL the critical points where control can be altered preventing or mitigating the severity of future events

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
11. And a another critical component is the gun culture embraced by a
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

significant portion of the US, in which guns are openly or not openly considered a solution to personal and inter personal problems. This seems to be a component unique to the US and our unique combination of history, pop culture, and laws.

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