Can anyone provide any sort of reason why I should give a shit if people can no longer buy AR-15s?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

I'm told that prohibiting their sale is some sort of gross infringement of people's natural rights, and I'm sorry but I cannot care any less if people are cut-off.

All I know is post-Sandy Hook, there were large amount of people whose very first reaction was to run to the gun stores and gun shows to buy up more AR-15s because there was a chance they could stop selling them.

And that's about the most ass-backwards reaction to 27 people being shot dead that I can ever imagine.

I'm sorry, but I will not cry a single tear if AR-15s are no longer sold to the general public.

[TeddyR]

1. Nope

If Congress enacts some sort of ban that withstands constitutional scrutiny then great.

[HuckleB]

2. No, there is no justification for it.

It's just stubborn nonsense.

[HooptieWagon]

3. I don't care if AR-15 type weapons are banned or not.

They are involved in a very low % of gun deaths, even though the ones they're involved with are high profile. Mass shooters will simply use other weapons...for example, until Orlando the most deadly mass shooting was Va Tech, using two handguns.
OTOH, AR-15s are poor hunting rifles, and not the most effective for home defense.
In short, banning them will delude a segment of the population into thinking they've won a victory, but in reality nothing will have changed. The effort and political capital could be more effectively spent...but most likely that isn't the objective.

[dhill926]

4. something will have changed....

AR-15s would have been banned. It's a start...one step...

[Mojorabbit]

23. I agree. A different weapon will be used next and we will be at the same place.

I want to know why these young men are so angry and why this is what they feel their only option is. I don't understand it.

[EX500rider]

5. Anyone seriously think a crazy person won't commit mass murder if they can't get a specific gun?

I don't...they will just buy something else.

[Crepuscular]

6. Since

they are not going to be banned any time soon, whether you give a shit or not is largely a moot point. But you keep dreaming.......

[jmg257]

7. I think you answered your own question - so NO, probably not. nt

[aikoaiko]

8. Will banning AR15s make the next massacre less tragic?

It wouldn't for me.

[etherealtruth]

9. No, but it may make the massacres less frequent

Haven't run into you in a while. How have you been?

[aikoaiko]

21. You've always been very kind to me.

I won't argue much except to say I disagree because people decide to massacre with the weapons they have and not the ones they wised they had and the second most deadly shooting was done with two handguns with only 10 and 15 round magazines.

Its been a somber month or so for me. Watching the Bernie campaign not succeed, can't get happy about HRC being the 1st female Democratic candidate and likely president even though I know I want to be, losing faith in the party, coming to terms about my own shortcomings as revealed through this primary, unhappy with hosting, 3 weeks in bed due to back pain, and now this horrible massacre. A pessimistic feeling of futility has permeated my life.

Thank you for asking. I'm sure I'll feel better in while.

[etherealtruth]

22. I am so sorry n/t

[EL34x4]

10. AR-15s are the most popular sporting rifle in America.

There are 10-12 million in private hands. Thousands more will be sold this week.

They aren't going anywhere.

[HooptieWagon]

16. Probably not. Do you have supporting data for your claim?

[metalbot]

25. The numbers don't quite match up

But it's the right order of magnitude.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/03/military-style-ar-rifles-market-saturated/19836755/

[HooptieWagon]

37. They think 3-5 million were sold. Bottom fell out of market.

Doesn't sound like they're selling at all now. And the figure is about 1% of all guns (or less) in the publics hands.

[tallahasseedem]

11. Don't give a shit...

because there is no shit to give about the fact that these weapons of war should be banned.

[GeorgeGist]

12. I don't care if the 2nd Amendment is repealed.

[Iggo]

13. Not me.

[Recursion]

14. I don't think the problem is that it's a gross violation of rights (it's not)

I think the problem is that if you prevent people from buying the AR-15 then tomorrow the manufacturer markets the BS-16 which is totally different, bro except it looks and functions exactly the same.

So, frustrated with that, you might go after the particular form factor (this is the theory behind the assault weapons ban) and so the manufacturer tomorrow markets an identically-functioning rifle with a modified grip and no bayonet lug (at least we will have prevented more bayonet attacks?)

What nobody's tried yet (and what I support) is actually outlawing the mechanism. The political problem being that Wayne la Pierre then holds up your grandfather's hunting rifle (which works exactly the same way as an AR-15 inside) and says "scary liberals are trying to ban this".

[Kaleva]

40. My grandfather's and father's hunting rifles were lever actions

[Recursion]

41. OK, maybe not *your* grandfather's hunting rifle, then

But a wood-finished, traditional-grip rifle (probably with the magazine removed for the press conference) that looks exactly like what people think of as the kind of gun grandfathers "should be" allowed to have.

[Rex]

15. None. It doesn't have any impact on the 2nd amendment.

Ban all assault weapons, they are tailor made to kill people.

[zappaman]

18. Yes, their only function is to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Ban 'em.
You want one? Great! Join the army.
No one NEEDS to own one.

[Crunchy Frog]

17. Why do you hate freedumb?

[Aristus]

19. But...but...but...GUNZZZZZZ!!!!!!!

Yeah, the freakazoids are gonna freak.

[ManiacJoe]

20. Why ban AR-15 style rifles?

What makes them special that they need extra restrictions that other rifles don't need?

[HooptieWagon]

38. They look Scarey.

It's like trying to eliminate drunk driving by banning cars with mag wheels. Completely illogical, but then they're deal from an emotional position, not a logical and practical one.

Actually, the easiest solution is not to ban AR-15 type weapons at all, just require that all in existence must be painted pink. The macho idiots who buy them because they looked 'cool' will be forced to get rid of them.

[ManiacJoe]

42. Nice to see someone else who gets it.

Pink won't work since you can get the plastic part parts in any aftermarket color you want.

However, it is cool to see all the multiple neon colors in the AR-15 racks at the national competitions.

[Scurrilous]

24. Bambi will gain the upper hand...errrr...hoof.

[Bluzmann57]

26. One word answer

No

[coco77]

27. One way or the other..

the crazies will have them and already have them most of these gun lovers have a store in their house,an armory,or their own homemade museum filled with guns.

These people will die hugging their guns they know damn well no one is coming for their guns and republiCONS use it as a talking point or to make money for their fake organizations.

Does anyone really, think that all guns will be taken? I hear some of the stupidest arguments.

[Just reading posts]

28. I'm seeing post after post on this very forum calling for gun confiscation, ranging from

taking "only" assault weapons to calls for the banning of all firearms.

[coco77]

30. Do you think they will find them all..

I guess everyone should be afraid.

[Just reading posts]

32. Even in the (politically impossible) event that total gun confisction was attempted, I would guess

the compliance rate would be 50% at best (possibly much lower), leaving hundreds of millions of guns still in circulation.

[coco77]

33. And everyone knows this especially the REPUBLICONS..

Who pretend that if they pass laws to stop the flow the government will go to every home and every place in America and confiscate guns. These people have guns hidden everywhere we could never find every gun.

[JanMichael]

29. Add AR-15 and knockoffs and AK-47 and knockoffs and I am with you.

There are a few more out there and as they gain cult status in the kill world they can go too.

Also I know there are variations of the knockoffs that people can argue about for days. Don't care.

[tenderfoot]

31. How is one going to pretend that they're saving the world or defending freedom?

eom

[Wayburn]

34. Why don't we discuss something that would have

Stopped this incident? The shooter didn't use an AR15?

[beevul]

36. You seem confused.

All I know is post-Sandy Hook, there were large amount of people whose very first reaction was to run to the gun stores and gun shows to buy up more AR-15s because there was a chance they could stop selling them.

And that's about the most ass-backwards reaction to 27 people being shot dead that I can ever imagine.

First you admit it was a reaction to potential bans, then you said it was a reaction to 27 people being shot.


It was one, but not the other.

[Bucky]

39. But the NWO aand the Black Helicopters aaand the Illuminati aaaaand Sharia Law aaaaaaaannd...

They're all coming to get you in blue helmet!