Omar Mateen's wife KNEW he was planning the attack, sources claim.

[pnwmom]

She even drove along with him to "scope" out the site.

She says she tried to talk him out of it. Authorities are considering filing criminal charges against her.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/omar-mateen-s-wife-tried-talk-him-out-orlando-attack-n592051

The Orlando gunman's wife has told federal agents she tried to talk her husband out of carrying out the attack, NBC News has learned.

Omar Mateen's wife, Noor Zahi Salman, told the FBI she was with him when he bought ammunition and a holster, several officials familiar with the case said. She told the FBI that she once drove him to the gay nightclub, Pulse, because he wanted to scope it out.

Mateen opened fire at Pulse early Sunday, leaving 49 dead and 53 injured. Twenty-seven victims remained hospitalized Tuesday. Six were in critical condition, according to hospital officials who said the death toll was still at risk of rising because one or two of those patients were "profoundly ill."

Authorities are considering filing criminal charges against Noor for failing to tell them what she knew before the brutal attack, law enforcement officials say, but no decision has been made.

She is cooperating with investigators, several officials say.

[Lee-Lee]

1. She needs to face 50 counts of Felony Murder

Plus conspiracy charges, terrorism, and anything else they can make stick.

But for sure this is a textbook case for application of the Felony Murder rule.

[scscholar]

2. But what if she was the victim of DV...

and it sounds like she definitely was, then you're blaming the victim. She was obviously afraid to speak-out.

[pnwmom]

3. Couldn't she have left him and gotten protection from the police? nt

[MariaThinks]

13. yes.

[scscholar]

20. You could say that about any DV victim, so again...

this is attacking the victim.

[pnwmom]

23. We don't know she was a victim. His first wife was. This wife moved to CA

in December.

[virtualobserver]

27. so, he was a nice guy between his abuse and his killing spree

[pnwmom]

33. No, but if he was in Orlando and she wasn't, she wouldn't have been at risk

if she had gone to the police and reported him.

[virtualobserver]

34. her being at risk had nothing to do with her location

What would the police have had on him prior to the massacre?

It is easy to second guess in hindsight.

[pnwmom]

35. Of course her location mattered. He wasn't imprisoning her. According to reports,

she had moved back to her family's home in CA in December.

From the safety of her family's home in California, she should have informed the police about his gun purchase and the attack he was planning, and waited for the police to act.

Assuming these reports are correct.

[virtualobserver]

37. right, there is no way that this gentle man could have harmed her

Easy to judge her actions from a distance.

[Lee-Lee]

4. I don't give a damm

And I used to work domestic violence cases exclusively as a deputy. I have tons of empathy for DV victims.

Not reporting some tax fraud or a theft, sure I can see a pass being given.

Not reporting a known terrorist plot that killed 49 people? No excuse. None. Period.

At some point there must be a line drawn, and this is well, well past it.

[peace13]

22. And how many times did you see the guy go free...

..only to beat or kill his wife or children?

[Lee-Lee]

26. Not any time I could change it

But that doesn't matter- it's no excuse for not just letting someone murder 49 people buy assisting him.

I also took the same stance when we had cases of women who allowed thier children to be sexually abused and then tried to get off of any responsibility with that defense. Sorry, no- when you cross into allowing others to be harmed you are responsible.

[virtualobserver]

28. How could she have proved anything?

[Lee-Lee]

29. Had she gone to LE they likely would have wired the house with her permission

Or she could have recorded him- every smart phone does that.

Or just gone and told them and having LE show up and interview him may have been enough to dissuade him from taking action.

Or they could have known to put him under surveillance at a minimum.

I refuse to accept some bullshit excuse of "she couldn't prove it" when she evidently has admitted to help him scope out the target. She had a moral and legal obligation to speak up, and as a participant in the crime and the conspiracy to commit it she must be held accountable.

[virtualobserver]

31. With all of your "experience", you should have encountered abused spouses....

who were completely controlled and intimidated.

Anyone capable of sustained killing for hours in the way that this guy did is a truly terrifying person. For all we know, she could have had her life threatened on a daily basis....Just as in combat, people can be psychologically broken by abuse.

[6chars]

38. So she's the real victim here?

[virtualobserver]

39. No, the point is that she isn't the villain.....Her husband was.

[6chars]

40. if she was an accessory, that is a bad thing

i have not even seen that she was in a dv situation, although his first wife was so that is certainly possible.

she did help him case the exact same joint, drove him there, bought ammo with him two days before the incident, and two months before the incident joined him in selling their house to a sibling for nothing to (seemingly) protect assets, and knew he was planning a jihad attack but says just not this exact one, and didn't tell anyone.

i am not sure how far her claim that she tried to talk him out of it goes in absolving her. i am also not sure everything she says at this point should automatically be trusted. like with his father, there may be more to the story. i think we have to wait and see what investigations reveal.

[virtualobserver]

41. someone else posted that she had left him and moved back to California....

in December.

Are these things all rumors? Did she have a press conference?

[6chars]

42. she deleted all her social media and has said nothing public

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/14/omar_mateen_wife_noor_salman_may_be_charged_report_says.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/us/politics/noor-zahi-salman-omar-mateen.html?_r=0

is one article discussing some of the developments in her investigation. an unnamed fbi official made some statements to various press including NY Times.

Not clear she whether she had actually moved out or just said she did but was really still living with him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639587/A-dried-Christmas-wreath-door-child-s-Ninja-Turtle-backpack-hanging-wall-ceremonial-sword-books-Crucial-Matters-Life-Muslim-Palestinian-Makes-Smile-Inside-home-Orlando-terrorist-Omar-Mateen.html

She was in their home in Florida on the night of the shooting:

Salman, 30, has not made any public statements about her husband and little is known about her. She left her home in Port St. Lucie after midnight on Tuesday, escorted by friends and dressed in a gray sweatshirt, local television station WSVN reported. Salman lowered her head and did not comment to the media.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/14/everything-known-about-noor-zahi-salman-the-wife-of-orlando-terrorist-omar-mateen.html

etc.

[840high]

9. She could have alerted cops or FBI.

[DonCoquixote]

30. or even her Mosque

As there might have been an Imam who would have been motivated to do SOMETHING against this idiot. If nothing else, there are many member of the Central Florida Muslim community who would have stopped this person, one way or another, because they knew they had a vested interest in doing so.

[MariaThinks]

14. we are all becoming victims of fear. Attacks are happening everywhere in the world

[peace13]

21. Yup. This guy passed three FBI investigations.

If she turned him in and they let him go again she and her child would be dead in a minute.

[MariaThinks]

15. Yes.

[sakabatou]

5. If true

She's AT LEAST accessory to murder.

[tallahasseedem]

8. +1

This revelation makes me ill.

[MariaThinks]

16. It does not surprise me - despite the attacks i get on this board for suggesting such stuff in

advance.

the same thing happened after the bombing in the Boston Marathan. First it was a lone wolf. Then it was the brothers. Then it was the brothers and friends. Then the mother and sisters came on the air and blasted America. I believe they were allowed to enter the country as refugees.

[DonCoquixote]

32. you mans this?

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/10/24/women-behind-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-277760.html

from, everything in that article, it suggests what most could figure out, rather than being exemplars of the Islamic community, they were known from being grifters, losers and creeps whose own family hate them, sue them, and do report them to authorties.

[MariaThinks]

12. like the San Bern case, i wonder if she was actually more than that.

[peace13]

6. She needs an attorney.

[MariaThinks]

11. Did she do something wrong?

[peace13]

18. Read it and weep.

I am looking out for her. You can think whatever you want.

[MariaThinks]

24. might be good to lookout for the next set of victims of extremists.

[christx30]

50. Anyone that deals with the police,

innocent or guilty, needs to speak through a lawyer.

[bigwillq]

7. Give her life sentence.

She deserves to rot, too.

Edited

[MariaThinks]

10. Agreed

[peace13]

19. Please tell my why you asked me if she did something.

You think she is guilty without a trial. I think she should button her lip and have an attorney. We don't know what she saw or heard or how he tormented her. We weren't there.

[MariaThinks]

25. don't put words in my mouth. I don't know anything about her - but i have seen a pattern emerge

in other instances where Islamic extremists slaughter innocent people. The events are not lone wolf, several people to many people are involved. in this case, the father hated homosexuals and said this on the air on his television program.


My sympathies are with the innocent victims. That's who I'm crying for. And the next ones of the extremist acts that are not stopping around the world.

[peace13]

43. We contribute to the problem.

Continual wars, killing and destroying countries is a dangerous hobby. We reap what we sow. Crying will not change that. Action will change that. Poking at people and pretending you don't understand to waste their time with a response is a wasteful disrespect. Electing leaders who create more war and more enemies will only increase your tears.

[MariaThinks]

44. if the saudis had not attacked nyc on 911, there would be no involvement in afganistan or iraq

we were involved in afganistan because the soviets invaded and we were asked to be involved.

There is no excuse or justification for killing innocent people to make a point. There is no justification to target a group of people because someone's religion is against what the people are doing. I'm not sure how people who want peace can excuse murder if its committed by the right people

[peace13]

45. You do know that the Saudis are Hills friends don't you?

OMG...I agree with you on some things. Awesome! On the Afghanistan thing not so much though. I think we stepped in thinking that we could clean up behind the soviet state and suck up the spoils. No worry though! I am seriously happy that we have common ground. Today is my last day on DU so I want to wish you well! Be safe! And always...no more wars!

[MariaThinks]

46. i meant the suadi terrorists, not the government

take care of yourself.

[peace13]

47. Will do. Looks like Skinner gave a stay of execution...

...so I may see you again.

[MariaThinks]

48. Until monday.

[Crunchy Frog]

49. What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?

[cwydro]

17. It certainly is beginning to look that way.

I don't know how she can live with herself if she had any inkling of this.

[Mandos the Judge]

36. Latest update...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/14/us/orlando-gunman-omar-mateen-wife-fbi/index.html

"...The wife of Orlando nightclub shooter Omar Mir Seddique Mateen told the FBI that her husband said he wanted to carry out a jihadist attack, though she denied knowledge of his plans to launch the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, a law enforcement official told CNN on Tuesday.
FBI investigators don't believe Noor Salman was a co-conspirator in the attack that killed 49 people Sunday morning at Pulse Nightclub, the source said.
But authorities are looking into whether she should face charges for what she may have known of his intentions and possibly failed to report to law enforcement.

...

Justice Department prosecutors and FBI investigators are reviewing Salman's account and other evidence to determine whether to bring charges against her for allegedly failing to report her knowledge of his general plans to carry out some kind of attack.
Such charges could include misprision, a deliberate concealment of knowledge of a pending crime..."

Seems conspiracy charges or aiding and abetting are out of the picture, which doesn't surprise me, considering the fact that she'd be under arrest if there were decent leads that was actually the case. Misprision seems to be out as well, since the simple failure to report a pending crime isn't enough. If they want a conviction for misprision they'd have to prove she actively concealed knowledge of the pending crime (and 'planning a jihadist attack' is rather vague as well) and that doesn't appear to be the case it seems. I suspect they won't file charges.

[gopiscrap]

51. Sounds like she is going to be

in some serious trouble