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U.S. officials say American Muslims do report extremist threatsBy Kristina Cooke and Joseph Ax at Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-cooperation-idUSKCN0Z213U
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Muslim-Americans have repeatedly informed authorities of fellow Muslims they fear might be turning to extremism, law enforcement officials say, contrary to a claim by presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump this week.
"They don't report them," Trump said in a CNN interview on Monday, in the wake of the mass shooting at an Orlando nightclub of 49 people by an American Muslim who claimed allegiance to Islamic State. "For some reason, the Muslim community does not report people like this."
But FBI director James Comey said, "They do not want people committing violence, either in their community or in the name of their faith, and so some of our most productive relationships are with people who see things and tell us things who happen to be Muslim.
Its at the heart of the FBIs effectiveness to have good relationships with these folks, Comey said at a press conference following the Orlando shootings.
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Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)Who knew?
applegrove
(118,577 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
to be deprogrammed.
Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,776 posts)OMG. Toooooo funny!
applegrove
(118,577 posts)Numerous members of Mateen's mosque, including his father and ex-wife, reported him.
People can't speak clearly on either side. Trump mouths off routinely, so I have low expectations for him. But to reduce both sides to poor use of grammar in order to distort and mislead, that's just wrong.
However, in this case in particular it's particularly bad because unless you can show nobody knew Mateen was a possible risk and had gone over to the dark side of the force, then his ex-wife, father, mosque members, friends in "the community" failed to report him.
Muslim Americans report such things. Muslim Americans don't report such things.
Both are true statements and don't contradict each other. Both are false statements and do contradict each other. Because each is ambiguous and has at least two readings.
"Frequently Muslim Americans report such things. However, all too often Muslim Americans don't report such things." That's one way of reading the two statements, back to back. No contradiction.
"It's true that all Muslim Americans to report such things. It's true that no Muslim Americans reports such things." Nice contradiction there. And it's just as valid a reading, if we ignore context and likely speaker intent. In other words, if we show ill will and uncooperativeness in communication.