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BREAKING: Paul Ryan Calling In Senate Police To Forcibly Remove Democrats At Sit-In (DETAILS) (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2016 OP
The Sergeant-at-Arms, most likely. RandySF Jun 2016 #1
this will not go well for the repukes lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #2
For every action there is a reaction, however much delayed, it will come. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #3
Omigod, the dirty bastard. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #4
Maybe he's the one madamesilverspurs Jun 2016 #5
Paul Ryan knows that I think rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #20
The Dems are recording it with periscope. mucifer Jun 2016 #6
It should be on C-Span pokerfan Jun 2016 #39
It is on cspan. I don't have cable tv so I don't know if it's on tv but mucifer Jun 2016 #48
Paul Ryan is from the same right flank that wanted to Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #7
Bring it on, Paul Ryan, you phony jerk. If it weren't for spooky3 Jun 2016 #8
This will backfire big time C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #9
IIRC they tried this when Packwood was refusing a quorum call years and years ago Recursion Jun 2016 #10
Looks like a large crowd gathering in support outside the House. We are watching memorable Purveyor Jun 2016 #11
Hmmmmm Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #12
nothing like that happening on the live video from the house nt msongs Jun 2016 #13
Ryan you have ordered Capitol police to lay hands on electedmembers irisblue Jun 2016 #14
Should Democrats win the House this Fall Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #16
everyone still speaking in the House. no sign of police. Takket Jun 2016 #15
I don't think that can happen... The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #17
Yes. appal_jack Jun 2016 #28
They Are Not In Session SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #31
Nah, this falls under "legitimate legislative activity." joshcryer Jun 2016 #43
What makes you think the Republicans give a shit about the Constitution? TeamPooka Jun 2016 #44
That should make for some great optics Egnever Jun 2016 #18
HAHAHAHA Skittles Jun 2016 #19
how much ya wanna bet DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #21
My money is on Mittens Romney. nm rhett o rick Jun 2016 #24
yes Rmoney will lose again rbrnmw Jun 2016 #26
Amen and Amen!!! uponit7771 Jun 2016 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #23
He's so sleezy. And he wants AR 15s everywhere so that rich people applegrove Jun 2016 #32
I got bail money for my Rep Beatty & Sen Brown irisblue Jun 2016 #25
Ohioian here I am with you we should do a Gofundme if they are arrested rbrnmw Jun 2016 #29
They won't be. They can't because of the Speech and Debate Clause The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #30
Good optics for us... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #27
That seems like a really stupid move, which could backfire in all sorts of ways. Which means there's fishwax Jun 2016 #33
Paul Ryan is clearly in over his head Generic Brad Jun 2016 #34
Ryan is enough of a nutcase..... chillfactor Jun 2016 #35
Turdlings Rex Jun 2016 #36
So, what happened? Nothing, right? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #37
That sniveling little bastard ailsagirl Jun 2016 #38
WTF? blackspade Jun 2016 #40
If so, he has lost the battle. Bad move. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #41
Paul Ryan makes John Boehner look like Tip O'Neill. stopbush Jun 2016 #42
fuck that bloated pig. he was instrumental in destroying the nascent presidency of Jimmy Carter. Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #46
Well, the Dems are still "at it" ... Ha ha ha. Fuck you Paul Ryan. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #45
that must have been a rumor. riversedge Jun 2016 #47

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
5. Maybe he's the one
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jun 2016

who sent in Louie Gohmert in an attempt to disrupt/disperse them.

Didn't work

Actually, can't imagine any of the Senate police would want to be the one to restrain and remove John Lewis. Unreal.

mucifer

(23,525 posts)
48. It is on cspan. I don't have cable tv so I don't know if it's on tv but
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jun 2016

it is on cspan.org It's just being taped on someone's phone and going out on periscope. So it's a feed compared to the true cspan cameras. But, kudos to cspan to ignoring the direction of the gop when their cameras were turned off!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. Paul Ryan is from the same right flank that wanted to
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jun 2016

make an alliance with Hitler over Stalin. This is the American right. Pure facsist trash.
Churchill and DeGaulle understood you had to go with Stalin to take out Hitler, then deal with Stalin.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
8. Bring it on, Paul Ryan, you phony jerk. If it weren't for
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

Gerrymandering, this completely immoral lack of respect for the American people would lead to the ouster of many of your members this fall.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
9. This will backfire big time
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jun 2016

It may likely end up with millions of us on the capital steps.
Fuck guns. We have a reasonable right to not be shot at.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
10. IIRC they tried this when Packwood was refusing a quorum call years and years ago
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

The sergeant at arms ended up injuring Packwood while trying to drag him onto the floor and the whole thing blew up in Byrd's face

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
11. Looks like a large crowd gathering in support outside the House. We are watching memorable
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

history here folks!

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
12. Hmmmmm
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

Seems like a bad idea. But I doubt the Speaker of the House would listen to this passive observer. Probably just have to wait for this to bite him in the ass later.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
14. Ryan you have ordered Capitol police to lay hands on electedmembers
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jun 2016

Someone screen shot when the police get to Rep John Lewis....

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. Should Democrats win the House this Fall
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jun 2016

which is certainly probable due to Trump, Ryan's district should be starved in appropriations.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,670 posts)
17. I don't think that can happen...
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jun 2016

The Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution (Article I, Section 6, Clause 1) says that members of both Houses of Congress "shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their attendance at the Session of their Respective Houses, and in going to and from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place."

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
28. Yes.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

Let's hope the Sergeant at Arms respects this provision of the Constitution.

I don't even agree with many of the gun control proposals being floated, but no way do I want see armed police arresting Democrats for engaging in spirited debate on this issue!

Ryan is a thin-skinned ass. This sort of thing happens in many Parliaments on a weekly basis. Ryan would not survive a day in Britain, or many other countries' legislatures.

-app

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
31. They Are Not In Session
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jun 2016

"Privileged from Arrest during attendance at the Session, and for any Speech or Debate." This is none of those sadly. Which is the whole point.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
18. That should make for some great optics
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jun 2016

One wonders where the genius is in this supposed boy genius. Turning off the cameras was not bad enough now this?

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

applegrove

(118,615 posts)
32. He's so sleezy. And he wants AR 15s everywhere so that rich people
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

don't have to pay taxes.That is all it boils down to.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,670 posts)
30. They won't be. They can't because of the Speech and Debate Clause
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jun 2016

of the Constitution. Members of Congress are immune from arrest when acting in their capacity as congresspeople.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
33. That seems like a really stupid move, which could backfire in all sorts of ways. Which means there's
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jun 2016

a chance Ryan could actually try it.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
34. Paul Ryan is clearly in over his head
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jun 2016

If there was a "Dump Trump" movement that Ryan was trying to capitalize on, this will derail that plan.

chillfactor

(7,574 posts)
35. Ryan is enough of a nutcase.....
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jun 2016

to do something this stupid............and it would blow up in his face...

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
37. So, what happened? Nothing, right?
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016


Adam Khan @Khanoisseur
wow @RepDuckworth who lost both legs in Iraq War smuggled her phone into #NoBillNoBreak sit-in in her prosthetics
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
46. fuck that bloated pig. he was instrumental in destroying the nascent presidency of Jimmy Carter.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jun 2016

think I'm making it up?

the dems were just as much, if not MORE, at fault than the pugs and the media for not even allowing Carter to even attempt to institute his moderately progressive agenda.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Walter_Karp/Reaction_Launched_LUS.html

then read what happened to his very first prospective nominee, former hard core cold warrior from the Kennedy admin, Ted Sorensen (for CIA director) at the same link. remember The Committee for the Present Danger, an amalgam of war mongering loons from both parties, devoted to the continuation of the MIC, and who saw Carter as anathema, with his intent on cooling down relations with the Soviets. Hence the infamously scurrilous Team B fiasco.

long slog, some overly tendentious writing, but part of a great book, Liberty Under Siege, by Walter Karp.

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