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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:04 AM Jun 2016

Customer called 'fatty' on receipt



"I was signing my slip," Arnold told CNN affiliate WJAR. "I didn't really pay attention to it yet, and then I just happened to read it and I saw it in the corner and I was like, 'Wow,' and my heart just dropped."

The receipt from All Stars Bar & Grill read "fatty" in the place intended for the customer's name. Arnold shared a photo of the receipt on Facebook and outrage over this incident began to spread on social media.

"[The server] legit ID'ed me as 'fatty,' then he wouldn't admit it. They lost mine and my friends business," the 24-year-old stated in his post.

When Tony Ambrosio, the owner of the restaurant, found out about the incident he was was quick to apologize. And he fired the server in question.
"We sincerely apologize for your negative experience last night. It was very unprofessional to say the least. We take full accountability for what occurred and would like to make it up to you," Ambrosio posted in the comments of Arnold's Facebook photo.

The server turned out to be Ambrosio's son, not only is he out of a job, but he is also no longer allowed on the restaurant's property.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/us/fatty-on-receipt-restaurant-employee-fired-irpt/index.html
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Customer called 'fatty' on receipt (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jun 2016 OP
Maybe the stupid kid can get a job over in Quahog at the Drunken Clam....! nt MADem Jun 2016 #1
Maybe he's just fat? Corporate666 Jun 2016 #2
Says someone who perhaps has never been called Fatso? flor-de-jasmim Jun 2016 #3
Table numbers don't tell you Corporate666 Jun 2016 #7
All too often it's the person who has overcome some difficulty AndreaCG Jun 2016 #11
All too often it's the person who hasn't even tried to overcome some difficulty Corporate666 Jun 2016 #12
Oh? AndreaCG Jun 2016 #33
Or perhaps you think you know ME? AndreaCG Jun 2016 #34
waited tables, most use table numbers & clock face or L1, R3 to ID orders. or just 15, 5 steak Sunlei Jun 2016 #15
I have never been over weight but I fell sorry for your weight problems leaving you with issues Person 2713 Jun 2016 #28
Wow - enjoy your stay...n pkdu Jun 2016 #4
I really hope they don't Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #22
Table six. Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #5
There's 5 people at the table Corporate666 Jun 2016 #9
Red shirt, glasses, near the window... Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #10
Go wait tables for a day Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #23
5a, 5b, 5c, etc. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #25
The real way: Table#/Position#. Iggo Jun 2016 #29
That sounds much easier to me. Aerows Jun 2016 #30
The logical pretzels people twist themselves into to defend assholishness is unsettling to me. Iggo Jun 2016 #31
Right there with you! n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #32
That always worked in the past. What the heck is wrong with folks these days? In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #13
Presumably the customer referred to as "fatty" was wearing clothes AndreaCG Jun 2016 #6
Also maybe the story didn't make CNN because "fatty" complained AndreaCG Jun 2016 #8
Papa Ambrosio might have raised his kids not to belittle others meow2u3 Jun 2016 #19
Sounds like momma insisted that hopeless "junior" be given a job at the bar 1939 Jun 2016 #21
Wow. Just wow. smh laundry_queen Jun 2016 #14
Yes, it may happen but you don't put it in print Catherine Vincent Jun 2016 #16
Use "code" 1939 Jun 2016 #24
Yep. Assholes write hateful shit. It happens. Iggo Jun 2016 #18
One of my jobs when getting my undergrad degree was waitress in a nice restaurant. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #17
People need to toughen up just a bit... Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #20
The "fatty" in question did not go to CNN with it Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #26
Yeah and the 'fatty' could have put it to bed, by being a human Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #27

Corporate666

(587 posts)
2. Maybe he's just fat?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:15 AM
Jun 2016

When you are a waiter, you have to identify the tables. You don't go over and ask their names, and while it's stupid to enter a pejorative name on the receipt, wait staff do and say this stuff ALL the time. "Hey the fat woman in the back corner wants extra potatoes - can you double her order plz" and "Hey, busboy, take this plate of ribs to the bald woman near the door".

Sure, it's tactless but it happens. If the guy is that offended by it that he had to go to the news media, he should probably spend more time being offended at the quantity of food he's eating?

flor-de-jasmim

(2,125 posts)
3. Says someone who perhaps has never been called Fatso?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jun 2016

REstaurants typically number tables. What is so difficult about that?

Corporate666

(587 posts)
7. Table numbers don't tell you
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:59 AM
Jun 2016

who ordered what.

As I said, it is offensive when discovered, but obviously such descriptors are not meant to make it to the customers hands.

Who is going to write "the nice gentleman with the well trimmed beard wearing gray khakis and a slim-fit shirt" and "elderly woman with beautiful gray hair and an adorable accent" and "young twenty-something with touseled hair, a hearty laugh and stylish sneakers"? It will be "beard guy" "Old woman" and "fat guy".

It's just the first identifying feature you see upon looking at them that others would notice and be able to identify them with. It's not generally meant as a pejorative.




Oh, and you presume wrong. I struggled with my weight for years and years. I mountain bike and go to the gym regularly, and I am extremely careful about the food I buy and what I eat. I lost over 100lbs and kept it off for years. I sympathize with the guy for being fat, but not for running to the media because he's offended that someone noticed he's fat.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
11. All too often it's the person who has overcome some difficulty
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:07 AM
Jun 2016

Who has the least amount of sympathy for those people who have failed to be as righteous as s/he and still displays that wretched frailty for all the world to see.

And worse, demands to be treated as if that unworthy person was, you know, normal. Instead of being humble and accepting all the insults and scorn heaped on him or her because s/he just hasn't tried hard enough to conform.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
12. All too often it's the person who hasn't even tried to overcome some difficulty
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:13 AM
Jun 2016

that demands the rest of the world accommodate them and insulate them from any notion that they have an issue they need to confront and deal with.

And worse, those that shout down anyone who doesn't offer anything but unconditional sympathy while completely ignoring the very real health and self-esteem issues the actual victim is dealing with.


AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
33. Oh?
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:01 AM
Jun 2016

So you know "fatty"personally then. And are his confidant. Because you seem to be privy to "the very real health and self esteem issues the actual victim is dealing with." Most of the rest of us on the thread don't know "fatty" at all, therefore can't say what his health and self esteem issues, if any, might be.

However, one might make a case that "fatty" actually does have some self esteem, or enough to object to being labeled simply by his girth. Just as a person in a wheelchair might object to a waiter who scribbled on his pad the identifying word "cripple", or better yet, "crip".

As for "fatty's" health, unless you are his doctor, nurse, receptionist, family member or friend, or maybe his trainer at the gym (cause you know, fatties aren't banned from most gyms. Maybe you even went to one before you lost all that nasty yellow flab), you really are only guessing about his health problems. Amiright?

Unless he talked about health problems in the CNN clip or elsewhere. Didn't notice. Didn't notice anyone else bring it up either.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
34. Or perhaps you think you know ME?
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jun 2016

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue as to who i am, and what my autobiography consists of, etc (Other than anything I've volunteered)

Care to guess and make everyone here LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL some more?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. waited tables, most use table numbers & clock face or L1, R3 to ID orders. or just 15, 5 steak
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jun 2016

or plain old table number and ask, who has the steak?

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
28. I have never been over weight but I fell sorry for your weight problems leaving you with issues
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

Is blackie , ugly or gimpy acceptable too? I did waiter large tables for years way back and never saw this type of behavior by any staff

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
5. Table six.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:24 AM
Jun 2016

How difficult is it to identify the table number? The actual identity of the customer isn't needed when relaying an order. This isn't tactless, it is disgusting, and in some cases, bigoted.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
9. There's 5 people at the table
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:00 AM
Jun 2016

How do you identify them?

Or maybe the tables get moved and shuffled around depending on how busy it is.

How is identifying someone as fat being bigoted? Fat isn't an unpopular opinion. It's eating too many calories and not exercising sufficiently.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
10. Red shirt, glasses, near the window...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 04:07 AM
Jun 2016

The bigger question is why the fuck anyone other than the server needs to identify them? If it is the busboy, then tell them location at the table.

"Fat" is a physical descriptor one needn't use. And you're "understanding" of what "fat" is, is sorely lacking.

ETA: "Fatty" is not a descriptor, it is a pejorative!

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
23. Go wait tables for a day
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

And actually see how the job is done before spouting such ignorant stuff?

There are actual methods and ways to do this that are very simple.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. 5a, 5b, 5c, etc.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jun 2016

I waited tables in college. It's not difficult. It's what we did. It worked well.

Bias often compels us to deny additional existing possibilities, as well as rationalize our ugliness.

Iggo

(47,535 posts)
31. The logical pretzels people twist themselves into to defend assholishness is unsettling to me.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
6. Presumably the customer referred to as "fatty" was wearing clothes
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jun 2016

And again presuming the entire party wasn't wearing identical shirts, he could have been called "orange t shirt". Or "blue eyes". Or "Cubs hat". Or WHATEVER distinguished him from the rest of his party besides his weight.

It's not hard at all if you just think a little, and maybe care a smidgeon for other people's feelings.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
8. Also maybe the story didn't make CNN because "fatty" complained
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:59 AM
Jun 2016

But because the RESTAURANT OWNER took the unusual srep of not only firing the offending waiter, who was his own son, but actually BANNED him from the premises. You don't see that happening every day.

As someone with a newspaper journalism degree, that stands out as the reason it would be worthy of a few minutes on a 24/7 cable channel. It comes under the category of a "feel good" story,

Well, all except for the kid whose dad humiliated him on national TV for a damn good reason and now the kid can't even hang out at his usual watering hole to whinge about it, maybe.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
19. Papa Ambrosio might have raised his kids not to belittle others
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jun 2016

But for his son, the lesson never seemed to have sunk in. Maybe now he just might learn the lesson to treat others as he would like to be treated, now that he was not only fired, but also banned from his dad's business.

1939

(1,683 posts)
21. Sounds like momma insisted that hopeless "junior" be given a job at the bar
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jun 2016

and daddy figured that this was the perfect opportunity to get rid of him.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
14. Wow. Just wow. smh
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

I've been a waitress and none of us did that. Tables have numbers. And most normal people have hearts and aren't mean. YMMV I guess. I've seen your other posts, so I guess it's not surprising. Wrong turn somewhere I assume.


Catherine Vincent

(34,486 posts)
16. Yes, it may happen but you don't put it in print
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016

That was rude. He could have used the color of his shirt or if he wore glasses etc. so I'm not buying your explanation. The dufus probably thought it was ok since his dad is the owner.

1939

(1,683 posts)
24. Use "code"
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

For instance "46W" for a man or "18++" for a woman where size might be a descriptor.

"110=0" for a particularly ugly woman.

"40DD" for a well-endowed woman.

"0ha" for a bald man.

"OFt" for an old guy.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
17. One of my jobs when getting my undergrad degree was waitress in a nice restaurant.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jun 2016

When serving a large table, we were taught to give the customers and their orders numbers starting from the same point at the table each time. Customers were automatically identified with their table positions. It was pretty fail proof and we had no need to insult anyone.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
20. People need to toughen up just a bit...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jun 2016

I'm a fat dude. If this happened to me, I'd probably make sure the server knew I noticed, and his/her tip would reflect the attitude, however I wouldn't try to get my story on CNN or refuse to talk to the owner if he tried to apologize to me.

We are all just a bunch of perpetually offended dopes.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
26. The "fatty" in question did not go to CNN with it
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

People keep not reading the actual story. The reason the story went out is because the restaurant saw the image and it went big because of that.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
27. Yeah and the 'fatty' could have put it to bed, by being a human
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jun 2016

and actually talking to the owner and accepting his apology. The waiter getting fired is more than enough.

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