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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBrexit - yet another unexpected consequence as the world hurtles over the edge
Last edited Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)
Brexit, Grexit, the Ukrainian mess, Trump, ISIS/Taliban/al Qaeda, wildfires, droughts and floods across the northern and southern hemispheres, a broken polar jet stream, negative central bank interest rates, skyrocketing world temperatures, human overpopulation, the extinction of the world's land and ocean wildlife, gyrating oil prices, the disappearance of the ice caps and glaciers, the rise of oligarchies ... and on and on and on.
Humans have been cranking up the speed, tension and stress in the world for well over 100 years now, winding them up tighter and tighter all the time. It was inevitable that the incomprehensibly complex, interlocked, interdependent system of civilization and nature would begin to break down eventually.
Welcome to eventually.
On edit: To preserve peace in the family, I deleted the reference to Bernie.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)The world isn't ending.
It's just that history never stops.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)That's the same as the end of the world for many people, and the many wild species that are already gone.
PETM may even be on the horizon. How bad do you need it to get before you can admit that we (the big, royal, species-wide "we" have fucked up?
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)(for others who will need to look it up)
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)Sadly, there is likely no way out of it because so many are uncooperative. One spinning ball of dirt in an endless universe, and humanity can't get it together. I see where we're likely headed as do many looking at the big picture.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Thank you for some rational thinking. I don't want to think we are headed off the cliff right now.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Just as the climate change deniers don't want to think about the consequences of 400 ppm CO2. But there we are.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the end is not near ... nor, I suspect, coming.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)lapfog_1
(29,189 posts)but the 6th Great Extinction event has been in full swing for some time, and it is very possible that humans are on the way out too.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Of course the rocks will remain. Life and its organization, on the other hand, is facing an existential risk. That's "the world". The place we can live in.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)For way too many, nihilism rules the day.
I guess it is easier to believe that everything centers around our own, and personal, disappointments and depressions.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)now, the Brexit (as I understand, the UK's saying "screw trade deals, we're going it alone" is an unexpected consequence?
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)The sentiment of the rank and file voters was grievously misread by people who were blinded by their own opinions.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)of the refugee crisis in Europe created by the US military adventures in North Africa and the Middle East?
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Politics simply follows along in the wake of natural changes and calamities.
BumRushDaShow
(128,372 posts)The good old days?
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)it was utterly perfect
skip fox
(19,356 posts)I can point to one main reason: mankind knows (consciously or unsuccessfully repressed) it is in the process of destroying the species and also knows that (because of our perversities: savage capitalism, retrograde religions, lobotomized politics, and the profit motive) we will not swerve from this course.
Our reaction: Cultural Psychotic Behavior, CPB.
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Collectively we can't change course. People might lose their jobs, you know.
TampaAnimusVortex
(785 posts)I suggest reading a bit of the alternative viewpoint instead of listening to all the doom-and-gloom types.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FLOGMM/
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)gordianot
(15,232 posts)By the rules of this website no attacks on Democratic officials.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Everybody is frantically trying to re-make the world in their own image of "better". I love the Bernie, but IMO he's just as symptomatic as the bad stuff.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)There have been others 1848, 1913, 1938, 2000.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I guess we have some folks that better start watching some re-runs of Doomsday Preppers
gordianot
(15,232 posts)Sivart
(325 posts)Does this post get to stand? Slamming Bernie like that?
Screw this place.
Trump, Bernie, Isis.........definitely screw this place.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)It's not a slam against Bernie. It's a recognition that the grass roots around the world are undertaking revolutionary change in response to intolerable situations. Some revolutions we agree with, some we don't. That doesn't make them any less revolutionary.
Response to GliderGuider (Reply #28)
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GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Emotions cloud thinking. And politics is entirely about emotions.
Sivart
(325 posts)No interpretation needed.....I am just looking at your actual words.
You are not going to change my mind, so just piss off.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Bernie's not ISIS, Bernie's not Trump, Bernie's not climate change, Bernie didn't singlehandedly extirpate the clouded leopard.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)It's all about becoming more and more unstable - as a precursor to an eventual change (massive release of energy) in state. We're entering into a very chaotic territory and I expect a very bumpy and dangerous future. Part of that who thing is that some people do wake up and see the coming tidal waves.
That Bernie gained so much support is an indication of how bad people know it's getting, and how much they desperately want to go in a positive direction. Vs the full on 'over the cliff' alternatives or the 'maintain status quo' position.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)But it was a bridge too far for this board.
Sivart
(325 posts)What is unique about Bernie to single him out in this list???? First Independent to join a major party and come in second place is more unique than first black president or first female nominee from a major party?
What is unique about Bernie that he is the only politician from our side on your list???
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)They are part of the status quo.
And it's not Bernie himself that is fascinating in this context, but the unexpected level of support he has from the rank and file.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)Allied with Elizabeth Warren and now Civil Disobedience on the floor of the House of Representatives, that sounds like the early stages of a revolution.
I will be curious to see how long Democratic spine growth lasts.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)wanting a government free of Big Money influence.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)Jeb crashed and corporate money does not seem to phase Progressives or their movement.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Capitalism monster encircle the globe, we will see more and more countries fall like Greece. And as they fall the Rich countries like Britain and Germany will bail on them, leaving them to swing in the wind.
We can see signs right here in River City. We see the Big Corporations gaining more and more profits and power as the People slide backwards to lower and lower wages and compensation. Killing unions and holding down the min wage are not Democratic Values.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)former9thward
(31,925 posts)Your OP is a perfect example. The end is always right around the corner. Except we never get to that corner. Or if we do and the end doesn't come then its the next corner for sure. Nothing is breaking down because it is always breaking down and new things come from that. Hundreds of millions of people are escaping poverty and joining the middle class every year world wide. That is not going to stop.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)More than 80 percent of the worlds population lives in countries where income differentials are widening.
The poorest 40 percent of the worlds population accounts for 5 percent of global income. The richest 20 percent accounts for three-quarters of world income."
http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats