Brexit - yet another unexpected consequence as the world hurtles over the edge

[GliderGuider]

Last edited Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:08 AM - Edit history (1)

Brexit, Grexit, the Ukrainian mess, Trump, ISIS/Taliban/al Qaeda, wildfires, droughts and floods across the northern and southern hemispheres, a broken polar jet stream, negative central bank interest rates, skyrocketing world temperatures, human overpopulation, the extinction of the world's land and ocean wildlife, gyrating oil prices, the disappearance of the ice caps and glaciers, the rise of oligarchies ... and on and on and on.

Humans have been cranking up the speed, tension and stress in the world for well over 100 years now, winding them up tighter and tighter all the time. It was inevitable that the incomprehensibly complex, interlocked, interdependent system of civilization and nature would begin to break down eventually.

Welcome to eventually.

On edit: To preserve peace in the family, I deleted the reference to Bernie.

[Loki Liesmith]

1. No.

The world isn't ending.

It's just that history never stops.

[GliderGuider]

2. This cycle of civilization is ending.

That's the same as the end of the world for many people, and the many wild species that are already gone.

PETM may even be on the horizon. How bad do you need it to get before you can admit that we (the big, royal, species-wide "we&quot have fucked up?

[Delphinus]

14. Paleocene Eocene Thermal Maximum

(for others who will need to look it up)

[RKP5637]

20. Much of the world feels the effects, but lives in denial. In short, humans have really fucked up.

Sadly, there is likely no way out of it because so many are uncooperative. One spinning ball of dirt in an endless universe, and humanity can't get it together. I see where we're likely headed as do many looking at the big picture.

[redstatebluegirl]

3. Welcome to DU!

Thank you for some rational thinking. I don't want to think we are headed off the cliff right now.

[GliderGuider]

8. Of course you don't want to think that.

Just as the climate change deniers don't want to think about the consequences of 400 ppm CO2. But there we are.

[1StrongBlackMan]

17. I am not a climate-change denier AND, even at 400ppm CO2 ...

the end is not near ... nor, I suspect, coming.

[uponit7771]

5. +1

[lapfog_1]

7. The world won't end

but the 6th Great Extinction event has been in full swing for some time, and it is very possible that humans are on the way out too.

[GliderGuider]

11. That's why I used the word "world" and not "planet."

Of course the rocks will remain. Life and its organization, on the other hand, is facing an existential risk. That's "the world". The place we can live in.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. +1 and welcome to DU ...

For way too many, nihilism rules the day.

I guess it is easier to believe that everything centers around our own, and personal, disappointments and depressions.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Wait ... I thought trade deals were a bad thing? ...

now, the Brexit (as I understand, the UK's saying "screw trade deals, we're going it alone&quot is an unexpected consequence?

[GliderGuider]

6. Unexpected in the sense that pretty much everybody thought it would go to "Stay".

The sentiment of the rank and file voters was grievously misread by people who were blinded by their own opinions.

[Downwinder]

9. Is Brexit the intended or unintended consequence

of the refugee crisis in Europe created by the US military adventures in North Africa and the Middle East?

[GliderGuider]

15. And droughts and food shortages.

Politics simply follows along in the wake of natural changes and calamities.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Or was it caused by this?

The good old days?

[Fresh_Start]

12. yes, there were no problems or strife before the workd became interdependent

it was utterly perfect

[skip fox]

13. Exactly right. The wheels are coming off the cart.

I can point to one main reason: mankind knows (consciously or unsuccessfully repressed) it is in the process of destroying the species and also knows that (because of our perversities: savage capitalism, retrograde religions, lobotomized politics, and the profit motive) we will not swerve from this course.

Our reaction: Cultural Psychotic Behavior, CPB.

[Delphinus]

18. Chilling analysis ...

[GliderGuider]

19. Yep.

Collectively we can't change course. People might lose their jobs, you know.

[TampaAnimusVortex]

30. The end of the world has been coming for thousands of years now...

I suggest reading a bit of the alternative viewpoint instead of listening to all the doom-and-gloom types.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FLOGMM/

[brentspeak]

16. Notice that the genius who wrote this OP inserted "Bernie" between Trump and ISIS. n/t

[gordianot]

24. Thanks I missed that.

By the rules of this website no attacks on Democratic officials.

[GliderGuider]

26. Deliberate. Bernie's support is as much a sign of revolutionary change as the others.

Everybody is frantically trying to re-make the world in their own image of "better". I love the Bernie, but IMO he's just as symptomatic as the bad stuff.

[gordianot]

21. Reminds me of 1968.

There have been others 1848, 1913, 1938, 2000.

[snooper2]

23. ROFLMAO THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!

I guess we have some folks that better start watching some re-runs of Doomsday Preppers

[gordianot]

25. Not going to fall just climate change.

[Sivart]

27. Trump, Bernie, ISIS....??????

Does this post get to stand? Slamming Bernie like that?

Screw this place.

Trump, Bernie, Isis.........definitely screw this place.

[GliderGuider]

28. He's as much a symptom of the times as the others.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7950109

It's not a slam against Bernie. It's a recognition that the grass roots around the world are undertaking revolutionary change in response to intolerable situations. Some revolutions we agree with, some we don't. That doesn't make them any less revolutionary.

[GliderGuider]

31. No, that's just how you interpreted it.

Emotions cloud thinking. And politics is entirely about emotions.

[Sivart]

32. No, its what you wrote.....

No interpretation needed.....I am just looking at your actual words.

You are not going to change my mind, so just piss off.

[GliderGuider]

34. OK,l I edited it.

Bernie's not ISIS, Bernie's not Trump, Bernie's not climate change, Bernie didn't singlehandedly extirpate the clouded leopard.

[Locrian]

33. i didn't take it as a slam

It's all about becoming more and more unstable - as a precursor to an eventual change (massive release of energy) in state. We're entering into a very chaotic territory and I expect a very bumpy and dangerous future. Part of that who thing is that some people do wake up and see the coming tidal waves.

That Bernie gained so much support is an indication of how bad people know it's getting, and how much they desperately want to go in a positive direction. Vs the full on 'over the cliff' alternatives or the 'maintain status quo' position.

[GliderGuider]

35. That was how I intended it. Thanks.

But it was a bridge too far for this board.

[Sivart]

36. Why only Bernie, then? Why not Obama or Clinton???

What is unique about Bernie to single him out in this list???? First Independent to join a major party and come in second place is more unique than first black president or first female nominee from a major party?

What is unique about Bernie that he is the only politician from our side on your list???

[GliderGuider]

37. Because Obama and Clinton are not signs of revolutionary change.

They are part of the status quo.

And it's not Bernie himself that is fascinating in this context, but the unexpected level of support he has from the rank and file.

[gordianot]

38. Literally almost over night Clinton is sounding like Sanders.

Allied with Elizabeth Warren and now Civil Disobedience on the floor of the House of Representatives, that sounds like the early stages of a revolution.

I will be curious to see how long Democratic spine growth lasts.

[rhett o rick]

40. I think that more progressives will speak out now they see that there are millions

wanting a government free of Big Money influence.

[gordianot]

42. It is starting to looks as if big money is not getting what they paid for.

Jeb crashed and corporate money does not seem to phase Progressives or their movement.

[rhett o rick]

39. What we are seeing is the end game of Capitalism. As "globalization" sees the

Capitalism monster encircle the globe, we will see more and more countries fall like Greece. And as they fall the Rich countries like Britain and Germany will bail on them, leaving them to swing in the wind.

We can see signs right here in River City. We see the Big Corporations gaining more and more profits and power as the People slide backwards to lower and lower wages and compensation. Killing unions and holding down the min wage are not Democratic Values.

[Bluenorthwest]

41. The Bernie slam is absolutely horrible.

nt

[rhett o rick]

47. And the thread wasn't locked.

[former9thward]

43. The gloom and doom crowd will always be with us.

Your OP is a perfect example. The end is always right around the corner. Except we never get to that corner. Or if we do and the end doesn't come then its the next corner for sure. Nothing is breaking down because it is always breaking down and new things come from that. Hundreds of millions of people are escaping poverty and joining the middle class every year world wide. That is not going to stop.

[gordianot]

44. The pendulum is swinging after all.

[Locrian]

46. indeed

[rhett o rick]

45. Some of us refuse the "Blue Pill". "At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.

More than 80 percent of the world’s population lives in countries where income differentials are widening.

The poorest 40 percent of the world’s population accounts for 5 percent of global income. The richest 20 percent accounts for three-quarters of world income."

http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats