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Maven

(10,533 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:32 AM Jun 2016

I find it surprising that something as serious as Brexit was decided by a simple majority

I can't say I know much about the UK's referendum process, but it seems that a change with such massive consequences should have been subject to winning a supermajority of votes in each region of the UK. Anyone know and can explain why it was done this way?

There are times when I wish the bar weren't quite so high to amend our federal Constitution. Events like this make me realize that on balance, we are better off maintaining that high bar. Changes to the fabric of one's country should not be made on the whims of a simple majority at any given moment in time, even if it means that progress can be very slow.

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I find it surprising that something as serious as Brexit was decided by a simple majority (Original Post) Maven Jun 2016 OP
yes, imagine if gay rights or women's rights were left to a simple majority mainer Jun 2016 #1
No need to imagine Maven Jun 2016 #3
California's Prop 8 is a prime example. procon Jun 2016 #9
Add to that is the fact that rules for this vote also don't allow for a national recount! Native Jun 2016 #2
Not sure why a recount would be necessary TeddyR Jun 2016 #4
It was on Conservative's party platform. RAFisher Jun 2016 #5
I don't think the vote is even binding Renew Deal Jun 2016 #6
Was a super majority required to join the EU? former9thward Jun 2016 #7
I agree that is why the founders made our system treestar Jun 2016 #8

mainer

(12,022 posts)
1. yes, imagine if gay rights or women's rights were left to a simple majority
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:41 AM
Jun 2016

Or anything that threatens conservative white men?

Maven

(10,533 posts)
3. No need to imagine
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

We've seen all too recently what happens when gay and trans rights are left to a simple majority in conservative states. It's ugly.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. California's Prop 8 is a prime example.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

We're supposedly one of the most liberal states in the nation, yet a majority of voters passed a ballot initiative to ban gay marriage ban and add that special bigotry to the California state constitutional. It took a court ruling to say that Proposition 8 was unconstitutional.

Native

(5,939 posts)
2. Add to that is the fact that rules for this vote also don't allow for a national recount!
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jun 2016

This is totally mind boggling to me. I've questioned it in a couple of other Brexit posts too.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
4. Not sure why a recount would be necessary
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 11:58 AM
Jun 2016

Considering the measure passed by something like 4%.

One thing I will say is that while this only took a simply majority to pass I find it impressive that turnout was so massive.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
5. It was on Conservative's party platform.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

They won pretty big in 2015 and this was something they campaigned on; having a vote to leave the EU. The referendum is non-binding but would be political suicide to oppose. Other Brexit opposition MPs pointed out that Cameron could have set the rules differently. It could have been a super majority. Or it could have needed all four countries to vote in favor of Brexit. Only Wales and England voted to leave. Northern Ireland and Scotland voted to stay.

former9thward

(31,964 posts)
7. Was a super majority required to join the EU?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

There was never even a referendum to join. Are you ok with that?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. I agree that is why the founders made our system
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

so it took a large will of a supermajority to make major changes. It is frustrating when we want to see progress, such as in health care, but maybe it has its good side too, as you've pointed out.

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