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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas secessionists inspired by Brexit: ‘If Trump fails #Texit seems to be our best remedy’
Thousands of social media users are jumping on board with a Brexit-style secession for Texas which Twitter users are calling Texit.
The Texas Nationalist Movement has been trying to piggyback on Britains vote for leaving the European Union for several weeks, arguing the two movements are basically the same, reported Vocativ. The vast majority of the laws, rules and regulations that affect the people of Texas are created by the political class or unelected bureaucrats in Washington, said Daniel Miller, president of the TNM.
The Texas secession movement is nothing new, of course, but the Texit catchphrase exploded in use Friday, after Britain narrowly voted to break away from the EU.
Vocativ found more than 5,800 people tweeted the phrase a five-fold increase from the day before and 1,745 people tweeted about it between 7 a.m. and 8 a.m. London time, when the results were announced.
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muntrv
(14,505 posts)edhopper
(33,561 posts)Do it!
Without Texas, the GOP loses any control of this country.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)The EU was never a single country; it's an organization based mainly on trade agreements. A state seceding from the US is not in any respect the same or even a similar thing, but they are welcome to try. It didn't end well the last time.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Though there are a lot of amazing progressives living in Texas.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)Support for secession within the state is rarely higher than 20-25%. The Facebook pages of some of the newspapers are pretty amusing every time it comes up.
You can get 20% of people to agree on almost anything.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)We have a population here of about 27.5 million. If 20% are for secession and the US government helps the rest to leave Texas (especially the poor, elderly, and/or disabled) are y'all truly prepared for 22,000,000 people to filter their way (with their movable property) into the rest of the US? That's 22 million Texans. We know how much y'all already hate us. Are you sure you want us to be living next door?
And if letting any of us "out" is off the table, well then, how Liberal of you.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)- "Papers please."
- "Here's my driver's license."
- "Sorry, I need to see a proper passport for international travel. And I need to search your baggage, take your fingerprints and make a biometric scan of your face. Do you have a visa for staying in the US?"
- "What? This is outrageous!"
- "So you're an illegal immigrant, eh?"
- "Illegal? How dare you?"
- "What's this? A gun? Sorry, you need a special permit to bring that into the US."
- "You are violating my 2nd Amendment rights!!!"
- "No, I'm not. Only US-citizens have 2nd Amendment rights. You are an illegal alien with a gun, trying to sneak across the border."
- "You are violating my liberties!!!"
- "What's this? Cash money? Why would you have cash money and gold-coins with you? Is that for some kind of drug-deal? We're gonna have to impound the money under civil forfeiture. Don't worry: You can get it back if you sue us in court."
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)apcalc
(4,463 posts)WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)you do realize that the Democratic Party bankrolls itself from the pockets of Texas Dems, right? Right?
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Texas' contributions are 1/3 of New York and 1/5 of California's contributions. Texas is also less dramatically out-contributed by Massachusetts and Florida, in spite of those states' smaller populations.
For comparison: https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/geog.php?cycle=2016&cmte=RPC Texas is the #2 contributor to the Republicans, and donates 3x as much to the Republicans as to the Democrats.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)then please explain why my email gets flooded with emails begging for money from the Democratic party, as well as from candidates from other states? Texas is the Democratic Party's ATM.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)The five registered Democrats in Wyoming get those emails.
Glorfindel
(9,726 posts)n/t
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)to help them book their flights to Mars or wherever it is they want to go
Johonny
(20,829 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Let them find out how life would be as a foreign country with no federal assistance or subsidies whatsoever. The reddest states on that map already receive disproportionately large shares of federal dollars for a variety of social programs that maintain the social safety net, so say bye-bye to your participation in SS, Medicare, Obamacare and no more food stamps, or first responder training and financial support.
Go forth fools, and develop your own monetary system, your own franking system, and don't expect the feds to hand out emergency aid for hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, fires, or your next ebola outbreak. No more fed money to maintain the interstate highways, seaports or airports (and train your own air traffic controllers), and your military bases -- gone. Yep, it all goes away. Lets see how the Lone Star states bottom line fairs after their secession.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Texas has lots of good progressive people. It's not their fault they're surrounded by idiots. But if Texas left the Union, the Republican Party would never win a national election again. It would be like the Democratic Party losing California.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Texas progressives are outnumbered by conservative idiots. I used to live in Texas, but I left 17 years ago after living in the South for 19 years--to the date!
Another major problem is that ethnic minorities, particularly blacks and Latinos, AFAIK, are systematically disenfranchised, so I guess progressives are living in enemy-occupied, enemy-controlled territory.
Initech
(100,060 posts)And their no government style of government fails big time, they'll come crawling back.
Kber
(5,043 posts)I would greatly fear for the racial, political and religious minorities in Texas without the protections of the federal government. I'd also fear for the poor and underprivileged on all background as outside of some enlightened towns (Austin etc) the investment in education and other anti poverty measures by the state is less than robust.
And of course, the half of the citizenry made up of women would see rights rolled back at an even more alarming pace.
It's fun to say "Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!" But people would indeed suffer.
And finally, I'm sticking by my prediction that Texas goes blue by 2024. It's changing demographically and politically, and it's only a matter of time before the diverse and more liberal traditions (yes they are there!) are strong enough to assert them self at a state and national level.
One upon a time, California was reliably GOP too.
Sam_Fields
(305 posts)Plus every American citizen that resides in Texas on the exit day lose their American citizenship. The elderly and disabled will lose Social security, SSI and Medicare.
The chance that Texas residents will vote to approve that is very small.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)as well as any citizens that want to stay Americans. Cash only
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)Their tax base would shrink even further with the nasa engineers, military leaving, etc. And then the businesses that would leave... omg... They'll look like mexico economically in ten years.
(I'd pack up and move the family if this happened.)
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)TEXIT - It's what's new.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)underpants
(182,744 posts)Ilsa
(61,692 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I hope the Mexican War to liberate Texas is televised!
DemFromPittsburgh
(102 posts)spanone
(135,816 posts)then you're entirely on your own.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Sorry, too late, we built a wall.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,028 posts)Go for it, in exchange for military protection we will need 100% of your oil.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Why does no one around here ever think of it (or promote it) that way?
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Jesus, what the f*** are you whining little civets waiting for?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)How the conversation with Uncle Sam might go:
You aren't going to close your military bases, are you? Well, yes.
You aren't going to close the borders and enact border checks, are you? Well, yes.
You aren't going to require visas for Texan patriots to visit the US, are you? Quite possibly.
You aren't going to end all of those transfer payments you make? Hell yes.
What about the Social Security owed to our residents? Interesting question, isn't it.
There aren't going to be tariffs between our nations, are there? Everything is negotiable.
My child just married an American. Will he be able to live in the US? That's complicated...
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)After the Civil War and signed to never secede again. I have been living in Texas for thirty six years and never personally heard anyone say they wanted yo secede.
pampango
(24,692 posts)they are opposed to international agreements and organizations since they conflict with conservatives' earlier preferences.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Stop talk about it.
Set the wheels in motion.
Close up the military bases. Remove vast federal bureaucracy located in Texas. Declare NASA facilities sovereign territory of the US.
No federal funds for social services, Medicaid, ObamaCare, education. Shut 'em down.
It would be interesting to see which, and how many, companies would choose to close up shop in the new Republic of Texas and relocate north.
I know it won't happen, but I can dream, can't I? And they can take huge swaths of the south with them.
Or maybe they should all STFU about it and get on with life in the reality-based universe.