51% to 39%....support for trump plunges

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https://www.washingtonpost.com





Donald Trump's Poll Numbers Collapse as General Election Looms

The bottom is dropping out for Donald Trump.
While Trump was never popular outside of his loyal slice of GOP voters, a raft of new polls show his national position hitting new lows, including with groups that are supposed to form his base.

America's widespread loathing for Trump puts further pressure on Republican delegates to deny him the nomination in July if he falls short of a majority, a move that would set off an ugly civil war but that some in the party believe would be necessary to stave off generational damage.

A collection of recent surveys by Real Clear Politics finds, on average, 30 percent of respondents hold a favorable view of Trump versus 63 percent who hold a negative one. Those numbers are roughly parallel to former President George W. Bush's approval ratings during his final months in office, which set the stage for President Barack Obama's landslide victory.


Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton leads Trump by double digits in at least six national polls in March, even as her own favorability ratings appear weak. Using 2008 as a reference point again, Obama's popular vote margin against Sen. John McCain was just more than 7 percent.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-s-poll-numbers-collapse-general-election-looms-n548731

[roamer65]

1. We are going to find out the exact percentage of the American people...

that are stark raving, flying monkey lunatics this November.

Whatever percentage of the popular vote goes to Donny Dump is that percentage.

It would not surprise me one bit if the Libertarian ticket is second in the popular vote.

[spanone]

2. true, the fact he's even in the equation is scary as hell.

[roamer65]

3. Just wait until Bill Weld starts full bore on him.

Called him "unfit" and a "huckster" in the CNN town hall.

Bill Weld used to work with HRC and I think he's taking Dump's comments on her personally.

[ailsagirl]

30. That he's even in the equation...

Frightens the hell out of me.

[FLPanhandle]

11. I would add in the percentage of voters that choose not to vote.

I consider them "stark raving, flying monkey lunatics" too.

[Chakab]

22. We already know. If you study the polling, it's about 30-35%.

This is proportion of people who still supported Bush at the end, and it's proportion who is steadfastly wrong on pretty much every major issue.

Trump's floor will be in that range.

[JoePhilly]

37. +1

[Kingofalldems]

4. Trumpies got the Blues for sure.

[spanone]

5. bet he's not crowing about how HUGE his poll #'s are!!!!

[ailsagirl]

31. It's surprising he's not because he lies all the time n/t

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Once the Murdoch tie in with Trump is

made,watch his numbers go south.. Remember,Trump met with Murdoch in Scotland this past weekend and then Trumpy goes all Brexit.

[Warpy]

7. He goes much lower, there will be a coup at the convention

While the movers and shakers don't really mind losing to Clinton (assuming she's a clone of her husband, which she might not be), they don't want to be utterly humiliated and they don't want Republicans to get used to the idea of finding a conservative Democrat acceptable over any Republican, no matter how insane.

In addition, as his numbers drop, expect Cheeto Jebus to get a little desperate around the edges and start to crack.

[spanone]

8. they're also scared to death of elections down the ticket....house AND senate.

[FLPanhandle]

13. Shhhh!

I'm really hoping Trump is the official GOP nominee.

[Warpy]

17. Did you also hope for a befuddled B actor and a moronic fake cowboy?

We got both and they were both fucking disasters.

Be careful of what you wish for.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. Scary that 39% of the country is for this guy.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Well, it's the crazies + Never Hillary haters + a sprinkling of semi-sane Republican loyalists

These equal 39% of the voting population.

[Cryptoad]

10. Seems all those ugly hillary Attacks have backfired on him!

[auntpurl]

12. "America's widespread loathing for Trump"

Wow. That's a MSM using those words. It is looking bad for Don the Con.

[Logical]

14. This is BAD NEWS folks! We need to have this happen after their convention! They can still.....

replace his ass!

[sufrommich]

15. They'll lose Trump supporters if they steal it from him. There's no

sunshine for the GOP,regardless of what happens.

[Logical]

19. Hope you are right. nt

[runaway hero]

29. well let them

If they don't respect the vote, they can lose 49 states. And they can find some new voters for the 2018 mid terms as well. Not a fan of trump but if you ignore the voters...

[Yavin4]

16. I smell a Trexit.

Republicans exiting Trump.

[Gabi Hayes]

18. I love this article so VERY much:

Donald Trump apparently never watched “Braveheart”. Trump managed to get the Scottish so riled up and pissed off that he became the most hated man in Scotland. Polls showed Donald Trump ranked higher than Edward Longshanks as the most hated man in Scottish history.


http://mfi-miami.com/2013/04/the-scottish-hate-donald-trump/

fun read

[spanone]

20. thanks for that....his timing in scotland couldn't have been better, or worse.

[Gabi Hayes]

21. did you see the guy handing out orange golf balls with swastikas on them?

I was disappointed there wasn't any sort of organized demonstration, but he kept himself on his own leveraged property, I'm guessing, so it would've been hard to get any groups in.

media was very very soft on him on site, from what little I could watch without stimulating my gag reflex

[spanone]

23. here's a pic...every ball

[Gabi Hayes]

24. lord, haw haw! that scrawny little guy they showed briefly (he said he was a comedian),

who spread his balls certainly had some.

I was sad he didn't get as much play as, say, that clown who insinuated he was an insider Secret Service agent, who wrote the Jerome Corsi-like book that just came out. they ran a pretty long segment on it at CNN

edit: forgot this

[Gabi Hayes]

28. he wasn't even really a british citizen...he was born in the USA

William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) was hanged at Wandsworth Prison at 9 a.m. on January 3, 1946, the last person in British history to be hanged for treason.

http://www.biography.com/people/william-joyce-17172178#arrest-and-trial

[ProudProgressiveNow]

25. K&R nt

[itsrobert]

26. Hi

[Ilsa]

27. NBC poll is closer, but still a 6 pt lead. nt

[Gabi Hayes]

32. 12 pts is nice, but I'm guessing it's a far outlier. aggregate polling makes more sense, and

the only real polling that matters, if any, this early, are the five to ten states which are crucial to both campaigns:

Ohio
PA
FLA
Iowa
Colo
WI
MI
VA
NH

there are others, like AZ, and even Utah or TX that supposedly could provide surprises (I HOPE!!!), but the above listed states are the ones that will decide the election, if Doncon can keep it close

[Gabi Hayes]

38. see?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027959562

[BlueNoMatterWho]

34. Looks like that's the RCP average. Unfortunate to find ABC polled 36-24 Dems

[Kingofalldems]

35. That's the third time you posted that today.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2219563

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2219554

Maybe you could put them all into an OP?

[NYC Liberal]

43. Actual party identification is around 33-27.

Not unfortunate.

[BlueNoMatterWho]

47. Not in this poll. Unfortuate only if we can't match the percentage with turnout.

"The survey of 1,001 randomly selected adults found a slight uptick in the share of people who identify as Democrats, from 33 percent in May’s poll to 36 percent this month. Self-described Republicans accounted for 24 percent of those polled this month, ticking down from 25 percent in May, while independents made up 33 percent."

[Kingofalldems]

48. Wow that's 5 times with basically the same post in two days.

You should maybe consolidate all of them into an OP.

[Kingofalldems]

49. Here's a poll that's all republicans:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-republicans-polls-224853

Is that good enough for you?

[Liberal_in_LA]

33. "Loathing" that sums it up

[joshcryer]

36. And she still hasn't got her convention bump.

[PADemD]

39. The linked NBCNEWS article is dated April.

Current polling reported June 26:

NBC/WSJ Poll: Clinton Leads Trump By 5 Points

Forty-six percent of registered voters back Clinton, versus 41 percent who support Trump — slightly up from Clinton's three-point lead in May, 46 percent to 43 percent.

When the horse race is expanded to four candidates — including Libertarian Gary Johnson and the Green Party's Jill Stein — Clinton gets support from 39 percent of voters, Trump gets 38 percent, Johnson 10 percent and Stein 6 percent.

The NBC/WSJ poll — conducted June 19-23 — comes after Clinton clinched the number of delegates needed to become the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee; after the tragic June 12 Orlando, Florida, shootings; and after a rough three-week stretch for Trump's campaign.

Despite these events and changes, the Clinton-vs.-Trump horse race remains relatively consistent.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-leads-trump-5-points-n598716?cid=sm_tw&hootPostID=f1bc2ae86e0f1f07a0afb55a7cdbdf67

[spanone]

40. sorry bout that link....saw two, linked to wrong one

thanks

[malaise]

41. ROFL

Americans will never make him President

[sarcasmo]

42. Kick 4 common sense

[kairos12]

44. Beware of polls: Many Drumpt supporters will not admit to voting for him to pollsters.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. The Missing 10% Concerns Me

That could make that lead go from huge to tenuous in a heartbeat. If it were 55:43, i'd feel a lot better about it.