America's Own Separatists Are All Kinds Of Fired Up After Brexit

[Surya Gayatri]

It's a really good time to be a separatist.

Just ask Daniel Miller, the president of the Texas Nationalist Movement who has been fighting for two decades to free Texas from the burdens of big government in the United States. Brexit was a good thing. Now, he has a platform to talk about "Texit."

"Our phones are ringing off the hook. Our social media is going nuts. We are definitely riding a wave of momentum. and we plan to ride it all the way to getting and winning a referendum on seccession," Miller told TPM in an interview shortly after the Brexit vote results were announced. "It is just a phenomenal thing. I know our supporters are energized by it."

After the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union last week, separatists, secessionists and 51st state advocates (those who want to break off from existing states to become their own states, but not their own nations) see Brexit as an opportunity to finally show tepid supporters there is a path forward to revolt against their current borders.

"The result of the Brexit vote has enticed people who were previously afraid to hope in something again," Miller said. "Now we see that a lot of folks are ready to come out of the shadows."

In Texas specifically, Miller is calling on Republican Gov. Greg Abbott to possibly "convene a special session" to discuss a referendum on secession, something the Texas Nationalist Movement has pushed in the state legislature every year since 2009, to no avail. While the Texas Nationalist Movement has yet to see any actual movement there, at the 2016 Republican state convention last month, the group brought forward a party plank allowing for such a referendum. It was ultimately struck down, but got much further than many expected.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/in-brexit-a-hope-for-american-secessionists

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Personally, my position is, if these red state and red region crazies want out so badly, let them go.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I don't suppose any of these fools have figured out

that seceding from an actual country is a bit different from leaving an international trade organization?

[hobbit709]

3. And it didn't work out too well the last time they tried.

[Surya Gayatri]

4. Well, yes, there IS that historical fact to consider.

But, then, facts are NOT their forte.

[hobbit709]

5. I'm not sure automatic breathing is their forte.

[Surya Gayatri]

19. They have to wear watches with an alarm to remind them.

[Surya Gayatri]

7. Texas nationalists believe that the state IS a country in its own right--always has been.

[hobbit709]

2. And they're all kinds of stupid.

[BlueMTexpat]

6. While I am very tempted to agree,

it would be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. There are too many sane people who would be hurt in a Texit, among them the wonderful "Helen" of "Margaret and Helen." https://margaretandhelen.com/

Fortunately, the crazies are a small percentage of the population. A "Texit" referendum would likely lose because of the sane people mentioned above. But then again, I thought that there were more sane people in the UK than there apparently are, so this could also happen in Texas.

Unfortunately, the crazies have disproportionate volume, media coverage, and RW deep-pockets financial backers.

MOST unfortunately, we are likely stuck with them. No one else WANTS them. Every other country has its share of loud-mouthed, racist, misogynistic, bigoted bullies who are willfully ignorant about the common good and just want to get theirs RIGHT NOW!!!!

The only solution that I can see is to let these abominations all sign up for a spacecraft that can carry them FAR, FAR away and then let them go there - never to return. That won't be happening anytime soon, I'm afraid. I can only dream!

[Surya Gayatri]

9. Oh, the beautiful pipedream! LOL!

The only solution that I can see is to let these abominations all sign up for a spacecraft that can carry them FAR, FAR away and then let them go there - never to return. That won't be happening anytime soon, I'm afraid. I can only dream!

[Nevernose]

16. The problem with the spaceship solution?

If the crazies in Texas have their way, then NASA would relocate. No spaceships.

I say we let the crazies have Lubbock. No vote, no choice, no discussion: just tell them all the other Texas right wingers are going their to make it Glorious Conservative Paradise.

That's a win-win-win right there. Conservatives get new neighbors (probably with the same sky tone and number of guns). We get rid of the right wing crazies. Best of all? We also get rid of Lubbock!

[BlueMTexpat]

21. We could even offer

to build a wall for them!

[Iliyah]

8. There are a yuuggee amount of "sane" people who live in TX

and many Americans know how violent separatists are. We also know they will not stop and would want to take a lot of the USA with them. Ain't gonna happen. T-rump, corporate media and the GOPs are allowing them to rise (a little), but we are vigilent.

[BlueMTexpat]

10. Great to hear this!

[Surya Gayatri]

11. Of course. But, perhaps secession could take the form of the partition of India in 1947.

Half going one way and half the other. The "blue" half would remain in the Union, obviously.

Just a idea...

[Iliyah]

12. Not anytime soon, if ever.

GOP's desire for complete control of the whole USA overcomes any secession. If anything, progressives/Liberals have a better chance with more logic than the conservatives and crew.

[Surya Gayatri]

13. Agree, just wishful speculation.

[TwilightZone]

15. Agreed. Support for secession in the state is rarely higher than 20% or so.

And you can get 20% of the population to agree on almost anything.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. I can't wait to see some DUers defend this as a brave stand against neoliberalism (nt)

[Surya Gayatri]

17. Just wait, MV, they'll be weighing in with their "anti-establishment"

libertarian codswallop soon enough.

[ileus]

18. All two of them???

[Surya Gayatri]

20. In their world, two's a movement, three's a crowd.