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H2O Man

(73,476 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:13 AM Jun 2016

Road Rage (Update)

Yesterday, the person who shot my cousin and his son in a “road rage” incident was sentenced. The two longest sentence -- which run consecutively -- are 25-to-life for murdering the younger man, and 15 to life for the attempted murder of the father .The judge noted that this person poses a danger to society, where ever he is. Thus, the ex- New York City cop/ part-time corrections officer at the county jail, will never get out of jail.

I was pleased that the DA was able to submit information on one of the other similar “incidents” where, a couple months before shooting my family members, this thug had dogged a person driving on Route 17 (between NYC and Binghamton), and rushed towards the other vehicle with a gun.

More, in sentencing, the judge noted that the thug not only had shown zero remorse for killing a 26-year old, but was flippant while lying on the witness stand.

Today would be Derek Dylan’s 28th birthday.

Thank you to everyone here who has been supportive during this.

Peace,
H2O Man

http://www.wbng.com/news/local/John-Guzy-57-sentenced-in-death-of-Derek-D-Prindle-384538811.html?cid=facebook_WBNG-TV_Action_News

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Road Rage (Update) (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2016 OP
So glad this lunatic is where he belongs, forever. Thanks for the update, Water Man. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #1
K&R. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #2
There is no such thing as true "justice" in this case. But I am thankful that monster cannot hurt Coventina Jun 2016 #3
I am pleased that justice, in this case, was upheld. My condolences to you and your family. floriduck Jun 2016 #4
This is good to read JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #5
I hope the trial outcome will help with the heart ache of your family. n/t dixiegrrrrl Jun 2016 #6
: onecaliberal Jun 2016 #7
Our Justice system cannot remove grief ... Martin Eden Jun 2016 #8
Justice malaise Jun 2016 #9
Peace and love to you and your family H2O Man. Scuba Jun 2016 #10
Happy Birthday Derek Dylan. Raster Jun 2016 #11
k & r Scientific Jun 2016 #12
Glad to see the system worked and this lunatic will be put away for life. denvine Jun 2016 #13
My dear H20 Man... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2016 #14
Even with parole, he'll be inside a long time. malthaussen Jun 2016 #15
Hope it brings some closure Roy Rolling Jun 2016 #16
Good ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #17
Please understand that I know what you are going through Loki Jun 2016 #18
we know that nothing will ever make up for the loss of your family members, but at least niyad Jun 2016 #19
Well, Some Modest Consolation After All ProfessorGAC Jun 2016 #20
I'm so sorry that you lost Derek LittleGirl Jun 2016 #21
I know, from experience, Sissyk Jun 2016 #22
May he rot reign88 Jun 2016 #23
My sympathies, H2O Man. calimary Jun 2016 #24
Peace to you, H20 Man Samantha Jun 2016 #25
Still chervilant Jun 2016 #26
Just wondering: do ex-cops and COs still get protective custody in prison? Fritz Walter Jun 2016 #27
He did while H2O Man Jun 2016 #46
. KMOD Jun 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #29
There's comfort in knowing this man will be deprived of his freedom mountain grammy Jun 2016 #30
It is enraging that someone like that ends up with a job in the criminal justice field. corkhead Jun 2016 #31
I seem to recall you saying that this piece of fecal matter is an ex-cop? Downtown Hound Jun 2016 #32
Right. H2O Man Jun 2016 #47
I am pleased to see justice for your family. Raine1967 Jun 2016 #33
The thug won't see the light of day now. gademocrat7 Jun 2016 #34
I'm glad he got life x 2... gregcrawford Jun 2016 #35
I am glad that this part of the journey is over. missingthebigdog Jun 2016 #36
Thanks for the update, H2O Man ReRe Jun 2016 #37
This closes the book on everything but you & your family's grief. williesgirl Jun 2016 #38
My thoughts are with you (nt) MaggieD Jun 2016 #39
I have followed your updates since the start. Moostache Jun 2016 #40
What got me was how he acted like the cops bringing him into court were his personal honor guard. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #41
I know it will take time and the loss will forever be felt. I wish you all peace. Solly Mack Jun 2016 #42
Peace and love to you and yours. May Derek Dylan's name be remembered for a blessing. Hekate Jun 2016 #43
Wonderful news. Justice. But I know it will never mend sinkingfeeling Jun 2016 #44
I don't believe in "closure".. but I hope that this sentence annabanana Jun 2016 #45
Now maybe you can exhale, and find a bit of rest, knowing your efforts on the families' behalf FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #48
Peace. progressoid Jun 2016 #49
So glad to hear about it flying_wahini Jun 2016 #50
I am pleased that an ex-cop received a tough sentence AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #51
I hope you onethatcares Jun 2016 #52
You have my condolences H20 Man. I have been catching up reading about this. Rex Jun 2016 #53
So sorry this happened to your family struggle4progress Jun 2016 #54
Deepest sympathy to you and your family GeoWilliam750 Jun 2016 #55
Hugs to you and your family. voteearlyvoteoften Jun 2016 #56
Good to hear this update ms liberty Jun 2016 #57
Be well, and at peace. Some measure of justice has been done. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #58
Love and Light to you and your family Melissa G Jun 2016 #59
So glad the thug got a long sentence. I hope he never gets out. MH1 Jun 2016 #60
Good thoughts to you and your family through this ordeal JHB Jun 2016 #61
I'm sorry for you and your family's loss, H2O Man. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #62
All I can say is thank you thank you thank you judge passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #63
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2016 #64
... Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #65
Healing blessings to you and your family LiberalEsto Jun 2016 #66

Coventina

(27,025 posts)
3. There is no such thing as true "justice" in this case. But I am thankful that monster cannot hurt
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jun 2016

anyone else.

Love and support to your family, H2O Man.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
4. I am pleased that justice, in this case, was upheld. My condolences to you and your family.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jun 2016

Cops are people too. There are good ones and not so good ones. Let's hope the good weed out the bad as time goes on.

Martin Eden

(12,838 posts)
8. Our Justice system cannot remove grief ...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jun 2016

... but it can rub salt in wounds when it fails to deliver justice.

H2O Man, I am glad to hear that justice -- the kind that is possible within our rule of law -- was delivered in this case.

It is beyond my understanding to know what kind of spiritual justice or karma may be meted out.

Peace and Solidarity.

denvine

(799 posts)
13. Glad to see the system worked and this lunatic will be put away for life.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

Sorry for your loss and pain!

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,499 posts)
14. My dear H20 Man...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

I am so relieved and glad to read this!

Finally, justice.

Peace and love to you and your family, and to the family of Derek Dylan. I hope this just verdict will help their feelings of loss.

malthaussen

(17,174 posts)
15. Even with parole, he'll be inside a long time.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

May well not ever be outside again. I doubt he'll be able to control himself sufficiently to warrant parole, anyway.

It would be much better to have Derek Dylan back, though.

-- Mal

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
16. Hope it brings some closure
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Murder victims leave a gigantic hole where family and friends were connected. The healing may begin, but there is always something missing.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
18. Please understand that I know what you are going through
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016

My family endured the loss of a loved one to gun violence.

Peace to you and your family.

niyad

(112,951 posts)
19. we know that nothing will ever make up for the loss of your family members, but at least
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

the murdering bastard who did this will not be able to harm another innocent person. and may he receive everything he deserves.

your du family continues to be here for you.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
20. Well, Some Modest Consolation After All
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:12 AM
Jun 2016

Not hardly going to help with the loss, but at least the guy got what he deserved.

You and the family take care.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
22. I know, from experience,
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jun 2016

That it doesn't make the hurt and pain go away. However, it helps to bring it to an end, especially when justice was served and the family was able to be there and hear it. Now, the good memories can start to take over.

I'm so glad for you and your family that this dirtbag will never be free again.

Take care, H2O Man, and thank you for sharing this tragedy with us.


calimary

(81,044 posts)
24. My sympathies, H2O Man.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jun 2016

I hope this gives you and your family some level of closure.

Cold comfort, I know.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
25. Peace to you, H20 Man
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jun 2016

You did all that you could to get justice for Derek, and I believe he knows that. You also managed to remove a threat from society.

I hope you can find some comfort in the coming days in remembering the good times you shared with your cousin. Also remember to each day look around and see what you still have that is good in your life. That to me is what makes life worth living.

Best regards to you and your family. Take care.

Sam

Fritz Walter

(4,290 posts)
27. Just wondering: do ex-cops and COs still get protective custody in prison?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jun 2016

I, for one, hope not. This animal needs to live out the remainder of his life in Gen Pop.

Condolences to H2O Man and the rest of the family.

H2O Man

(73,476 posts)
46. He did while
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:05 PM
Jun 2016

in county jail. As he wasn't even 24 hours from his last shift of work as a guard, he likely wasn't popular with the other inmates. (I worked at the jail to do mental health evaluations, plus a couple of groups, during my employment at the clinic. I recognize that he could have been assaulted. Even county jail can be a violent place.)

I assume he'll be heading to Elmira, and evaluated on the location to be transferred in a couple of months. Yesterday, I heard Attica mentioned. That place remains a nightmare.

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

mountain grammy

(26,594 posts)
30. There's comfort in knowing this man will be deprived of his freedom
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

for the rest of his life. Hopefully, he'll never be in the position to hurt anyone again.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
31. It is enraging that someone like that ends up with a job in the criminal justice field.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

Thankfully he washed out and now will no longer be a threat to society.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
32. I seem to recall you saying that this piece of fecal matter is an ex-cop?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

Life in prison for an ex-cop. Have fun asshole.

I'm glad your family has some closure, but I can only imagine that few things would truly bring you peace. Senseless, stupid, and barbaric acts like this simply should not happen, and I can only imagine how I would feel if that was somebody I loved. It's no use trying to make sense of it because at the end of the day, it simply doesn't make any sense.

Here's to hoping you one day find peace and healing.

H2O Man

(73,476 posts)
47. Right.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jun 2016

Retired NYC officer; re-located upstate; fired from position at Hartwick College for bullying; hired as a part-time guard at county jail.

We documented three times that he threatened people with guns in the six months before he killed my cousin's son. Allowed to plea on the one case mentioned in the OP's link.

There was a fuck of a lot of evidence that didn't make it into trial. But enough did, that the judge recognized him as a sociopath. And accurately so.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
33. I am pleased to see justice for your family.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

I hope that somehow you and your loved ones can find some peace. Thank you for sharing this heart-wrenching horrible experience with us, H2O Man.

gademocrat7

(10,640 posts)
34. The thug won't see the light of day now.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jun 2016

I hope you and your family can now have some closure. Take care.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
35. I'm glad he got life x 2...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jun 2016

... though it doesn't bring your family members back.

It's LONG past time for rogue cops to answer for their crimes. My younger stepson is a detective, and I know there are far, FAR too many out their just like this sonofabitch.

missingthebigdog

(1,233 posts)
36. I am glad that this part of the journey is over.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

Now the real work begins for you and your family.

When a loved one is taken from us through crime, we are forced to set the grief aside somewhat, and focus on getting justice. Once the trial is over, however, there is still a grieving process to get through.

It is even harder to get through that process when it is delayed- the rest of the world has moved on, and there is an expectation that the passing of time has made things less painful for the family.

It is time now to focus on the loss of Derek, and not on the monster that took him. I hope your family's love for him, and for one another, will sustain you through this. Don't hesitate to reach out to others for help. There are many here who care.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
37. Thanks for the update, H2O Man
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jun 2016

I surmise, with an attitude like that, that the perp will never get out alive. You just can't go into the hard core prison with an attitude like that. There will be more on him in the future, cause I think he probably intends to take on the entire staff plus inmates. If I was the warden, I wouldn't want him in my facility.

Best to you and your family. Glad he won't be on the roads wreaking havoc anymore.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
40. I have followed your updates since the start.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

I am heartened a little to see that the perpetrator was sentenced to the fullest extent of the law. He deserves every day he spends inside those walls and being an ex-cop on the inside is not going to be easy time no matter where it is.

Nothing can make your family whole again, but may this justice make the pain and loss more distant and lessen the burden for you all.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
45. I don't believe in "closure".. but I hope that this sentence
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jun 2016

will go some way in your family's need for justice. It has been a long hard road to here for you all.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,005 posts)
48. Now maybe you can exhale, and find a bit of rest, knowing your efforts on the families' behalf
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

made a difference.

We all could take a lesson in vitue, and grit, from you.



-F2C

AwakeAtLast

(14,120 posts)
51. I am pleased that an ex-cop received a tough sentence
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

This is such a heartbreaking story, I am so sorry you and your family have had to live through this. May you find a way to work through the pain and grief. I wish there were better words to say to make it better, but I know those are hard to find in situations such as this. I send my thoughts and wishes for healing to you and yours.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
53. You have my condolences H20 Man. I have been catching up reading about this.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

I am so sorry Derek, you were far too young.

MH1

(17,573 posts)
60. So glad the thug got a long sentence. I hope he never gets out.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

And I hope he finds prison very unpleasant.

I know nothing can give solace for your loss, but there is the knowledge that now he can't do this to anyone else.

Thank you for keeping us updated. I am glad to hear that justice was served, to the extent possible, in this case.

JHB

(37,149 posts)
61. Good thoughts to you and your family through this ordeal
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

There's no such thing as a good ending to these horrible circumstances, but short of miracles or time travel this was the best that could be hoped for.

Kudos to the DA for his thorough work.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
63. All I can say is thank you thank you thank you judge
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jun 2016

This was a needed resolution to this open wound in this family.

And this was a needed resolution to get this fucking predator off the streets.



I know this will not fix your wounds, H2O, but it will be a start...and it was a necessary decision for you and your family to finally find some kind of closure. I know there is never any real and complete closure. We all have to deal with memories that repeat through our history, but some degree of resolution can be found in the law.

Again, I"m so sorry this happened to your family.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
66. Healing blessings to you and your family
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:57 AM
Jun 2016

You have been through so much grief.

At least this madman is behind bars for a long time.

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