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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:48 AM Jul 2016

Trump polling historically poorly in California. Trailing Clinton by 30 pts

http://www.mercurynews.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?contentItemRelationshipId=7639836

Trump, who at least temporarily has shuttered his California campaign offices, trails Clinton by 30 points in a two-person race and by 24 points when Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson is thrown into the mix.

Moreover, Trump is faring "historically" poorly with independent voters, Democrats and Latinos, Field Poll Director Mark DiCamillo said.

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"If Clinton had been indicted, things might be different, but as it stands now, Trump has virtually no chance in this state," said Jack Pitney, a professor of politics at Claremont McKenna College.

And if his polling doesn't pick up, Trump could make it challenging for several GOP congressmen in California to keep their seats, said Bill Whalen, a former Republican operative, who is now a research fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution.


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But it's hard to fathom Trump prevailing when the poll shows him trailing Clinton among California Latinos 75 percent to 12 percent in a two-person race. With Johnson included, Trump's share of the Latino vote sank to just 9 percent.

That's a long slide from the days of Ronald Reagan, who won 40 percent of Latinos in 1980.

"When you are getting single-digit support from a constituency that is 25 percent of registered voters and increasing, that is almost insurmountable," DiCamillo said.



http://www.mercurynews.com/elections/ci_30100943/california-poll-donald-trump-hitting-historic-lows-presidential
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Trump polling historically poorly in California. Trailing Clinton by 30 pts (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 OP
But he wants to campaign and spend money in that state bluestateguy Jul 2016 #1
yeah donny--go west, spend your time and $$. riversedge Jul 2016 #5
Completely aside from the merits of a hypothetical Republican SheilaT Jul 2016 #2
Yes. Repubs are nolonger competitive in calif Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #3
No real surprise there. SheilaT Jul 2016 #4
Liberal_in_LA—Which is devastating to the Rs… CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #7
2012 California: Obama +23; indicated shift is D+7 CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #6

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. But he wants to campaign and spend money in that state
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:50 AM
Jul 2016

Every day and every dollar spent in California is a day and dollar not spent in Ohio.

So please, be my guest. Welcome to California, Donald.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
2. Completely aside from the merits of a hypothetical Republican
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jul 2016

versus a hypothetical Democrat, wouldn't the hypothetical Democrat totally slaughter the hypothetical Republican?

And that's completely aside from the realities of this year's race.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
7. Liberal_in_LA—Which is devastating to the Rs…
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:19 AM
Jul 2016

Dating back to its first presidential vote, in 1852, California has carried for winners approximately 85 percent.

The historical average of carried states—with the previous 57 presidential elections of 1789–2012—is about 70 percent.

California is well above historical average for reliably backing winners.

On the flip side, Texas—which first voted in 1848—is at about 60 percent.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
6. 2012 California: Obama +23; indicated shift is D+7
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 04:11 AM
Jul 2016

• Barack Obama won the state 60.16% to Mitt Romney at 37.07% (D+23.09)

The poll indicates a further Democratic shift of +7 (for Hillary Clinton). That would yield an estimate of Hillary Clinton at 64% to Donald Trump at 34%.

In California, lately, about every 130,000 in raw-vote margin is an increment of a full percentage point for carrying the state. This poll would indicate a further 2016 shift of about 910,000 raw votes. So, instead of Obama’s 3 million plus in raw-vote margin winning California … Hillary would carry it by over 4 million raw votes.

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